I told you I would be back!

I am still catching up but might finish that tonight. I hope you all are
safe and not in that hurricane mess, my heart goes out to all of the
people
that are in it but more importantly to me I hope at the very least almost
all of the pets (fish, dogs, plants, etc.) are doing o.k. or better.

Readjust your limited mindset. This is the most obnoxious thing ever
posted.

Alpha wrote:
I am still catching up but might finish that tonight. I hope you all are
safe and not in that hurricane mess, my heart goes out to all of the
people
that are in it but more importantly to me I hope at the very least almost
all of the pets (fish, dogs, plants, etc.) are doing o.k. or better.


Readjust your limited mindset. This is the most obnoxious thing ever
posted.

Easy there, Alpha. Daniel just inadvertently misphrased that. I don't
think he *really* meant to say that the animals were more important than
the people.

- Logic316



"I think animal testing is a terrible idea; they get all nervous and
give the wrong answers."

On Fri, 9 Sep 2005 00:53:04 -0700, "Alpha" wrote:

I am still catching up but might finish that tonight. I hope you all are
safe and not in that hurricane mess, my heart goes out to all of the
people
that are in it but more importantly to me I hope at the very least almost
all of the pets (fish, dogs, plants, etc.) are doing o.k. or better.

Readjust your limited mindset. This is the most obnoxious thing ever
posted.


I understood Dan's concern for pets. As I listened to interviews with
people that refused to leave N.O. if they couldn't take their pets, I
asked myself if I could leave my pets. My answer is no, I don't think
I could leave them. I felt badly at T.V. shots of abandoned dogs.

I find your "mindset" rather limited and disturbing. Dan did include
his concern for people. But people are more resourceful and the help
when it did arrive took care of people, but no help was available for
the pets.

I am much closer to my 2 dogs than I am to people. I know people can
care for themselves most of the time, pets have little chance in our
civilization without someone being responsible.

The people problems could have been avoided if there had been
transportation made available and good local leadership in the days
before Katrina hit. Pets had to rely on their humans, the humans
failed to take care of themselves so the pets were left to fend for
themselves in a very hostile environment.

I am with you Dan, Having said your heart goes out to the people, the
pets are left on their own and need our concern.

Welcome back! g

dick

"Dick" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 9 Sep 2005 00:53:04 -0700, "Alpha" wrote:

I am still catching up but might finish that tonight. I hope you all
are
safe and not in that hurricane mess, my heart goes out to all of the
people
that are in it but more importantly to me I hope at the very least
almost
all of the pets (fish, dogs, plants, etc.) are doing o.k. or better.

Readjust your limited mindset. This is the most obnoxious thing ever
posted.


I understood Dan's concern for pets. As I listened to interviews with
people that refused to leave N.O. if they couldn't take their pets, I
asked myself if I could leave my pets. My answer is no, I don't think
I could leave them. I felt badly at T.V. shots of abandoned dogs.

I find your "mindset" rather limited and disturbing. Dan did include
his concern for people. But people are more resourceful and the help
when it did arrive took care of people, but no help was available for
the pets.

I am much closer to my 2 dogs than I am to people. I know people can
care for themselves most of the time, pets have little chance in our
civilization without someone being responsible.

The people problems could have been avoided if there had been
transportation made available and good local leadership in the days
before Katrina hit. Pets had to rely on their humans, the humans
failed to take care of themselves so the pets were left to fend for
themselves in a very hostile environment.

I am with you Dan, Having said your heart goes out to the people, the
pets are left on their own and need our concern.

Welcome back! g

dick

Thank you so much Dick - you're right - that's exactly how I feel. I can't
even express to you and everyone else how exactly right on you are about how
I feel about animals/pets. I would never leave my pets and I would fight
whatever it would be keeping me from them. The most powerful movie I ever
remember seeing was about dogs in the arctic who were left behind chained up
while their managers/owners abandoned them because a storm threatened to
prevent supplies from arriving for months. Some of the dogs escaped, one or
two of them survived (was it call of the wild?) and the stupid humans mostly
didn't seem to even care. I saw this movie when I was 12 or 13 and I cried a
river when I saw it (it was based on a true story) while at the same time
trying to "be a man" and I tried to suck it in so my dad and mom didn't see
me cry and my sister cried about it too. I would never leave dogs like that
and I would fight whatever would try to keep me from them. Thanks Dick, I
consider you a true and understanding friend.

Daniel Morrow wrote:
"Dick" wrote in message
...

On Fri, 9 Sep 2005 00:53:04 -0700, "Alpha" wrote:


I am still catching up but might finish that tonight. I hope you all

are

safe and not in that hurricane mess, my heart goes out to all of the
people
that are in it but more importantly to me I hope at the very least

almost

all of the pets (fish, dogs, plants, etc.) are doing o.k. or better.

Readjust your limited mindset. This is the most obnoxious thing ever
posted.



I understood Dan's concern for pets. As I listened to interviews with
people that refused to leave N.O. if they couldn't take their pets, I
asked myself if I could leave my pets. My answer is no, I don't think
I could leave them. I felt badly at T.V. shots of abandoned dogs.

I find your "mindset" rather limited and disturbing. Dan did include
his concern for people. But people are more resourceful and the help
when it did arrive took care of people, but no help was available for
the pets.

I am much closer to my 2 dogs than I am to people. I know people can
care for themselves most of the time, pets have little chance in our
civilization without someone being responsible.

The people problems could have been avoided if there had been
transportation made available and good local leadership in the days
before Katrina hit. Pets had to rely on their humans, the humans
failed to take care of themselves so the pets were left to fend for
themselves in a very hostile environment.

I am with you Dan, Having said your heart goes out to the people, the
pets are left on their own and need our concern.

Welcome back! g

dick


Thank you so much Dick - you're right - that's exactly how I feel. I can't
even express to you and everyone else how exactly right on you are about how
I feel about animals/pets. I would never leave my pets and I would fight
whatever it would be keeping me from them. The most powerful movie I ever
remember seeing was about dogs in the arctic who were left behind chained up
while their managers/owners abandoned them because a storm threatened to
prevent supplies from arriving for months. Some of the dogs escaped, one or
two of them survived (was it call of the wild?) and the stupid humans mostly
didn't seem to even care. I saw this movie when I was 12 or 13 and I cried a
river when I saw it (it was based on a true story) while at the same time
trying to "be a man" and I tried to suck it in so my dad and mom didn't see
me cry and my sister cried about it too. I would never leave dogs like that
and I would fight whatever would try to keep me from them. Thanks Dick, I
consider you a true and understanding friend.


Knowing you I read this the same way as some others - I hope I am not
making a great assumption by saying "knowing you"....I took a rain check
and then realised you did not mean to write it as it read. I have also
wondered about the pets left behind and have seen stories about people
so devoted to their animals that they refuse to leave without them....I
am very lucky to live in an area where I am highly unlikely to have to
make this choice - ultimately the survival of my family would be
paramount - and we are lucky to have sufficient transportation here to
at least get the dog, cat, guinea pig and rabbit out - the logistics of
the fish I'm not sure about....found this news story tonight which I
thought you might find interesting and shows that the animals in NO and
surrounding areas are now being considered:-

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4233408.stm

gill

Bottom posted.


"Gill Passman" wrote in message
.. .
Daniel Morrow wrote:
"Dick" wrote in message
...

On Fri, 9 Sep 2005 00:53:04 -0700, "Alpha" wrote:


I am still catching up but might finish that tonight. I hope you all

are

safe and not in that hurricane mess, my heart goes out to all of the
people
that are in it but more importantly to me I hope at the very least

almost

all of the pets (fish, dogs, plants, etc.) are doing o.k. or better.

Readjust your limited mindset. This is the most obnoxious thing ever
posted.



I understood Dan's concern for pets. As I listened to interviews with
people that refused to leave N.O. if they couldn't take their pets, I
asked myself if I could leave my pets. My answer is no, I don't think
I could leave them. I felt badly at T.V. shots of abandoned dogs.

I find your "mindset" rather limited and disturbing. Dan did include
his concern for people. But people are more resourceful and the help
when it did arrive took care of people, but no help was available for
the pets.

I am much closer to my 2 dogs than I am to people. I know people can
care for themselves most of the time, pets have little chance in our
civilization without someone being responsible.

The people problems could have been avoided if there had been
transportation made available and good local leadership in the days
before Katrina hit. Pets had to rely on their humans, the humans
failed to take care of themselves so the pets were left to fend for
themselves in a very hostile environment.

I am with you Dan, Having said your heart goes out to the people, the
pets are left on their own and need our concern.

Welcome back! g

dick


Thank you so much Dick - you're right - that's exactly how I feel. I
can't
even express to you and everyone else how exactly right on you are about
how
I feel about animals/pets. I would never leave my pets and I would fight
whatever it would be keeping me from them. The most powerful movie I
ever
remember seeing was about dogs in the arctic who were left behind
chained up
while their managers/owners abandoned them because a storm threatened to
prevent supplies from arriving for months. Some of the dogs escaped, one
or
two of them survived (was it call of the wild?) and the stupid humans
mostly
didn't seem to even care. I saw this movie when I was 12 or 13 and I
cried a
river when I saw it (it was based on a true story) while at the same
time
trying to "be a man" and I tried to suck it in so my dad and mom didn't
see
me cry and my sister cried about it too. I would never leave dogs like
that
and I would fight whatever would try to keep me from them. Thanks Dick,
I
consider you a true and understanding friend.


Knowing you I read this the same way as some others - I hope I am not
making a great assumption by saying "knowing you"....I took a rain check
and then realised you did not mean to write it as it read. I have also
wondered about the pets left behind and have seen stories about people
so devoted to their animals that they refuse to leave without them....I
am very lucky to live in an area where I am highly unlikely to have to
make this choice - ultimately the survival of my family would be
paramount - and we are lucky to have sufficient transportation here to
at least get the dog, cat, guinea pig and rabbit out - the logistics of
the fish I'm not sure about....found this news story tonight which I
thought you might find interesting and shows that the animals in NO and
surrounding areas are now being considered:-

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4233408.stm

gill







Thanks for the info and link Gill. It is an interesting link. To be honest I
would have stood up to the officer (?) with the gun and insisted I would
never leave my pets alive. I know it would risk my death but I could never
live with myself anyways if I left my pets. That's just the way I feel.