The Barr approach and Red Brush Algae...

On 2005-11-06, Justin wrote:
Nitrate currently 10ppm but is usuall 5ppm


You may have excessive nitrates relative to your other nutrients...

http://tinyurl.com/7zyye

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"I have to decide between two equally frightening options.
If I wanted to do that, I'd vote." --Duckman

js1 wrote:
On 2005-11-06, Justin wrote:
Nitrate currently 10ppm but is usuall 5ppm


You may have excessive nitrates relative to your other nutrients...

http://tinyurl.com/7zyye

--
"I have to decide between two equally frightening options.
If I wanted to do that, I'd vote." --Duckman

That is not it. Excess nitrates do not cause algae if the other
parameters are in good ranges.
I've attempted to induce algae and even at over 100pm of NO3, no algae
was ever induced in repeated experiments.

It's CO2 and CO2 and CO2.

Add more till the BBA stops growing.
EI simply isolated the and provided enough nutrients for the plants and
the light is fine so all that's left is the CO2.

pH/KH measurements cause problems for folks.
I use that as a starting point, then you add progressively more CO2
till no positive impact is achieved by adding more CO2.

This must be done ___slowly__.

Regards,
Tom Barr

www.BarrReport.com

Thanks for all the help folks!

Prior to reading Tom Barr's post, I did a 50% water change, removed all the
affected leaves (as per advise from the krib) and dosed 5ml of my traces. I
have since had to dose 5ml of my traces 2 days later as Fe levels have
dropped. after my partial water change last night of 40 litres, I did full
tests and my Phosphate has gone down .05, Nitrate is still 10mg/l and there
has been no further growth on the algae and the plants are looking a lot
healthier.

I have now increased my CO2 levels, my PH probe was slightly off
calibration, so my CO2 levels were at 14ppm, not 30 as i thought, so this
has also been adjusted - Thanks Tom for the heads up.

As for my PMDD, it appears that 5ml every couple of days is going to be the
way to go, not 1.5ml every day as per instructions on the Krib. I am
concerned with the Fe content in my trace element mix though as it say FE as
chelater, not Fe... I know there have been many, what you could almost call
arguments on the Krib re chelated iron, do I have to worry about this?

Once again all, thank you, you have all saved my BBA problem over night.

justin.

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js1 wrote:
On 2005-11-06, Justin wrote:
Nitrate currently 10ppm but is usuall 5ppm


You may have excessive nitrates relative to your other nutrients...

http://tinyurl.com/7zyye

--
"I have to decide between two equally frightening options.
If I wanted to do that, I'd vote." --Duckman

That is not it. Excess nitrates do not cause algae if the other
parameters are in good ranges.
I've attempted to induce algae and even at over 100pm of NO3, no algae
was ever induced in repeated experiments.

It's CO2 and CO2 and CO2.

Add more till the BBA stops growing.
EI simply isolated the and provided enough nutrients for the plants and
the light is fine so all that's left is the CO2.

pH/KH measurements cause problems for folks.
I use that as a starting point, then you add progressively more CO2
till no positive impact is achieved by adding more CO2.

This must be done ___slowly__.

Regards,
Tom Barr

www.BarrReport.com

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js1 wrote:
On 2005-11-06, Justin wrote:
Nitrate currently 10ppm but is usuall 5ppm


You may have excessive nitrates relative to your other nutrients...

http://tinyurl.com/7zyye

--
"I have to decide between two equally frightening options.
If I wanted to do that, I'd vote." --Duckman

That is not it. Excess nitrates do not cause algae if the other
parameters are in good ranges.
I've attempted to induce algae and even at over 100pm of NO3, no algae
was ever induced in repeated experiments.

It's CO2 and CO2 and CO2.

Add more till the BBA stops growing.
EI simply isolated the and provided enough nutrients for the plants and
the light is fine so all that's left is the CO2.

pH/KH measurements cause problems for folks.
I use that as a starting point, then you add progressively more CO2
till no positive impact is achieved by adding more CO2.

This must be done ___slowly__.

Hello.I read this article of link above ane there is written the mg
concentration should be 45 ppm.
Is this true ????

I need good information becauce i need to now how to make good water for
pplants with only ro water.
And Ca to mg should be as 4to 1! How big should be then ca concentration
when we have 45 ppm of mg.

My friend say that!!!
"
Make soft water using ro.You need to have gh and kh 0 !
And then add to this water mgso4.. Add 5ppm Mg and that give you 1 Gh.
And then add to this water
And then add to this water

I want add to ro-water I want too add to ro-water k2co3.That will be 15ppm
and 1,5 Kh.
I want too add to ro-water CaCo3.That will be 4 Gh and 3,5 Kh.
That will be 5ppm mg and 15 ppm K and aproXimetly 5 Kh and 5 Gh.

What do you think?

"

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js1 wrote:
On 2005-11-06, Justin wrote:
Nitrate currently 10ppm but is usuall 5ppm


You may have excessive nitrates relative to your other nutrients...

http://tinyurl.com/7zyye

--
"I have to decide between two equally frightening options.
If I wanted to do that, I'd vote." --Duckman

That is not it. Excess nitrates do not cause algae if the other
parameters are in good ranges.
I've attempted to induce algae and even at over 100pm of NO3, no algae
was ever induced in repeated experiments.

It's CO2 and CO2 and CO2.

Add more till the BBA stops growing.
EI simply isolated the and provided enough nutrients for the plants and
the light is fine so all that's left is the CO2.

pH/KH measurements cause problems for folks.
I use that as a starting point, then you add progressively more CO2
till no positive impact is achieved by adding more CO2.

This must be done ___slowly__.

Regards,
Tom Barr

Hello.I read this article of link above ane there is written the mg
concentration should be 45 ppm.
Is this true ????

I need good information becauce i need to now how to make good water for
pplants with only ro water.
And Ca to mg should be as 4to 1! How big should be then ca concentration
when we have 45 ppm of mg.

My friend say that!!!
"
Make soft water using ro.You need to have gh and kh 0 !
And then add to this water mgso4.. Add 5ppm Mg and that give you 1 Gh.
And then add to this water k2co3..Add 15ppm K and that give you 1,5 Kh.
And then add to this water CaCo3..Add to reach additionaly 4 Gh and 3,5 Kh.


That will be 5ppm mg and 15 ppm K and aproXimetly 5 Kh and 5 Gh.

What do you think?