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Old December 27th 05, 05:59 PM posted to rec.aquaria.freshwater.misc
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I have a 20 gal long with 6 Zebra Danio's and 7 Neon Tetras. I'm
looking for another fish, something colorful or at least interesting,
to put in with them. I have tried Dwarf Gouramis but have had very
little luck. Both have died, and I noticed that they did have nipped
fins, so something the other fish might nip at might not be a very good
idea.

Thanks in advance,
Klane

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Old December 27th 05, 06:54 PM posted to rec.aquaria.freshwater.misc
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Klane wrote:
I have a 20 gal long with 6 Zebra Danio's and 7 Neon Tetras. I'm
looking for another fish, something colorful or at least interesting,
to put in with them. I have tried Dwarf Gouramis but have had very
little luck. Both have died, and I noticed that they did have nipped
fins, so something the other fish might nip at might not be a very good
idea.

Thanks in advance,
Klane

How about bottom dweller(s)?

A school of small cory cats, or a single "small" pl*co such as bristle
nose or clown pl*c?

With 13 fish in 20 gallons you may already be near the practical limit
for your aquarium, though.

Steve
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Old December 27th 05, 09:37 PM posted to rec.aquaria.freshwater.misc
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"Klane" wrote in message
ups.com...
I have a 20 gal long with 6 Zebra Danio's and 7 Neon Tetras. I'm
looking for another fish, something colorful or at least interesting,
to put in with them. I have tried Dwarf Gouramis but have had very
little luck. Both have died, and I noticed that they did have nipped
fins, so something the other fish might nip at might not be a very good
idea.

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Three clown loaches would go nice as would a pair of pearl or blue gouramis.
Watch those zebra danios. I've seen them nip long fins on male guppies,
angel fish and gouramies.
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Old December 27th 05, 10:04 PM posted to rec.aquaria.freshwater.misc
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Koi-lo wrote:

"Klane" wrote in message
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I have a 20 gal long with 6 Zebra Danio's and 7 Neon Tetras. I'm
looking for another fish, something colorful or at least interesting,
to put in with them. I have tried Dwarf Gouramis but have had very
little luck. Both have died, and I noticed that they did have nipped
fins, so something the other fish might nip at might not be a very good
idea.


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Three clown loaches would go nice as would a pair of pearl or blue
gouramis. Watch those zebra danios. I've seen them nip long fins on
male guppies, angel fish and gouramies.


Clown loaches are great but the aquarium's much too small. These fish
easily reach 6 fat inches, and in nature they reach 12 inches.

I like the blue gourami idea, but the OP should only get one, because
they're fairly territorial.

The OP should probably stick to "easy" and peaceful fish for the time
being. Platies or swordtails if the water is at least moderately hard,
perhaps a group of cherry barbs, a school of harlequins, other tetras
besides the neons, or cory cats/ 1 small pl*co as suggested earlier.
Another very interesting fish that I once had long ago, is the kuhlii
loach. I think web posts say they should be in a group, but mine was
alone and disappeared for weeks (buried in sand substrate).

Good luck to the OP, but the aquariums is pretty full already.

Hello Klane (OP), did you not start with a tiny Sponge Bob tank within
the last year and post here about it? If so, the 20 gal is a great step
forward - way to go !
Steve
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Old December 28th 05, 12:29 AM posted to rec.aquaria.freshwater.misc
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"Steve" wrote in message
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Koi-lo wrote:

"Klane" wrote in message
ups.com...

I have a 20 gal long with 6 Zebra Danio's and 7 Neon Tetras. I'm
looking for another fish, something colorful or at least interesting,
to put in with them. I have tried Dwarf Gouramis but have had very
little luck. Both have died, and I noticed that they did have nipped
fins, so something the other fish might nip at might not be a very good
idea.


=========================
Three clown loaches would go nice as would a pair of pearl or blue
gouramis. Watch those zebra danios. I've seen them nip long fins on male
guppies, angel fish and gouramies.


Clown loaches are great but the aquarium's much too small. These fish
easily reach 6 fat inches, and in nature they reach 12 inches.


Whoops, I was thinking *30L*... not a 20L.

I like the blue gourami idea, but the OP should only get one, because
they're fairly territorial.


I'm thinking of a pair.

The OP should probably stick to "easy" and peaceful fish for the time
being. Platies or swordtails if the water is at least moderately hard,
perhaps a group of cherry barbs, a school of harlequins, other tetras
besides the neons, or cory cats/


I agree. The platies and swords would be most colorful, but male swords are
worse than male gouramis in my experience - they also jump. The tank needs
to be well covered to keep them from committing suicide. A trio of swords
or a trio of platies would do it. I personally grew bored with cory cats.
They're not colorful and they stay on the bottom and don't do anything
interesting. I sort of saw them as the "trash men" of the tank.

1 small pl*co as suggested earlier.
Another very interesting fish that I once had long ago, is the kuhlii
loach. I think web posts say they should be in a group, but mine was alone
and disappeared for weeks (buried in sand substrate).


A buried fish doesn't sound like it would be too colorful or interesting.
Just my opinion here...... but who's to account for taste? :-)

Good luck to the OP, but the aquariums is pretty full already.


But what he has are "small" fish. He has room for a few more with good
filtration and water changes.

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Old December 28th 05, 12:44 AM posted to rec.aquaria.freshwater.misc
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Guilty as charged when it comes to starting out with the SpongeBob
tank. We've got the 20 gallon now and a 5 gallon with a Betta. Who
needs crack when you have fish?

I did try a Betta in the large tank, after the Blue Dwarf Gourami died.
After keeping a close eye on it, we moved it back to the 5 gallon
within a week because of fin nipping. He is much happier now.

Klane

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Old December 28th 05, 01:09 AM posted to rec.aquaria.freshwater.misc
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Koi-lo wrote:

Steve wrote:
I like the blue gourami idea, but the OP should only get one, because
they're fairly territorial.



I'm thinking of a pair.


I bought 2 blue gourami in the spring thinking they were a pair -
impulse purchase. However, they clearly are male. There is obvious
tension between them, but I think it'll be ok because they're in a
planted 90 gal aquarium.

The OP should probably stick to "easy" and peaceful fish for the time
being. Platies or swordtails if the water is at least moderately hard,
perhaps a group of cherry barbs, a school of harlequins, other tetras
besides the neons, or cory cats/



I agree. The platies and swords would be most colorful, but male swords
are worse than male gouramis in my experience - they also jump. The
tank needs to be well covered to keep them from committing suicide. A
trio of swords or a trio of platies would do it. I personally grew
bored with cory cats. They're not colorful and they stay on the bottom
and don't do anything interesting. I sort of saw them as the "trash
men" of the tank.


Male swordtails certainly are active, and that's one of their attractive
features. I agree on the aquarium lid - keeps the cat out, too .

Cories are soooo cute when they pose on the bottom or a plant leaf. Some
have attractive patterns, and it's interesting when they occasionally
dash up for a bubble of air.


Another very interesting fish that I once had long ago, is the kuhlii
loach. I think web posts say they should be in a group, but mine was
alone and disappeared for weeks (buried in sand substrate).



A buried fish doesn't sound like it would be too colorful or
interesting. Just my opinion here...... but who's to account for taste?
:-)


It was interesting that the fish could be gone for weeks, then
re-appear. The little face sticking out of the mud occasionally was
interesting too. Kuhlii loaches have a nice colour and pattern, and with
a gravel substrate they might not dig in(?). They'd no doubt like bits
of abs pipe to hide in, though.

Good luck to the OP, but the aquariums is pretty full already.



But what he has are "small" fish. He has room for a few more with good
filtration and water changes.


I agree that in a filtered, established long 20 gallon aquarium there
may be room for a few more fish.
Steve
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Old December 28th 05, 01:21 AM posted to rec.aquaria.freshwater.misc
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Klane wrote:
Guilty as charged when it comes to starting out with the SpongeBob
tank. We've got the 20 gallon now and a 5 gallon with a Betta. Who
needs crack when you have fish?

I did try a Betta in the large tank, after the Blue Dwarf Gourami died.
After keeping a close eye on it, we moved it back to the 5 gallon
within a week because of fin nipping. He is much happier now.

Klane


Thanks for sharing the information about your aquariums.

Although I've kept aquariums for most of 40 years, my teen-aged daughter
brought home a tiny "aqua-buddies" plastic bowl with a dwarf african
frog a few years ago. We soon upgraded her to a 2-gallon plastic
aquarium much like your Sponge-Bob tank, but unfiltered. That's all she
could fit into her bookshelf where she wanted it.

The frog survived 8 months to a year with regular water changes, and
then she got a betta and heater. After having the betta a year my
daughter went away to university, and I looked after the betta another 6
months until it died. Now I raise snails in the 2 gallon plastic
aquarium. Guess I remembered your small aquarium because of my daughter's.

Steve
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Old December 28th 05, 02:19 AM posted to rec.aquaria.freshwater.misc
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Koi-lo wrote:
Steve wrote:
I like the blue gourami idea, but the OP should only get one, because
they're fairly territorial.



I'm thinking of a pair.


I bought 2 blue gourami in the spring thinking they were a pair - impulse
purchase. However, they clearly are male. There is obvious tension between
them, but I think it'll be ok because they're in a planted 90 gal
aquarium.


Then it should work out.

The OP should probably stick to "easy" and peaceful fish for the time
being. Platies or swordtails if the water is at least moderately hard,
perhaps a group of cherry barbs, a school of harlequins, other tetras
besides the neons, or cory cats/



I agree. The platies and swords would be most colorful, but male swords
are worse than male gouramis in my experience - they also jump. The tank
needs to be well covered to keep them from committing suicide. A trio of
swords or a trio of platies would do it. I personally grew bored with
cory cats. They're not colorful and they stay on the bottom and don't do
anything interesting. I sort of saw them as the "trash men" of the tank.


Male swordtails certainly are active, and that's one of their attractive
features. I agree on the aquarium lid - keeps the cat out, too .


Outside the cichlids there aren't many colorful fish out there. Just stand
back at the fish store and look at all the tanks. Most seem to be silvery,
shiny... but not real colorful. Now look at the live-bearers and goldfish.
Lots of activity and color there.

Cories are soooo cute when they pose on the bottom or a plant leaf. Some
have attractive patterns, and it's interesting when they occasionally dash
up for a bubble of air.


Another very interesting fish that I once had long ago, is the kuhlii
loach. I think web posts say they should be in a group, but mine was
alone and disappeared for weeks (buried in sand substrate).



A buried fish doesn't sound like it would be too colorful or interesting.
Just my opinion here...... but who's to account for taste? :-)


It was interesting that the fish could be gone for weeks, then re-appear.
The little face sticking out of the mud occasionally was interesting too.
Kuhlii loaches have a nice colour and pattern, and with a gravel substrate
they might not dig in(?). They'd no doubt like bits of abs pipe to hide
in, though.


Some fish are cute but not colorful - that's for sure. :-) I've had so
many fish over the years maybe I'm just a bit jaded. At this time I prefer
the active colorful livebearers and fancy goldfish. I also love the Malawi
cichilds but don't plan on setting up a tank for them again any time soon.
Nothing is more colorful and interesting than a tank of these cichlids.

Good luck to the OP, but the aquariums is pretty full already.



But what he has are "small" fish. He has room for a few more with good
filtration and water changes.


I agree that in a filtered, established long 20 gallon aquarium there may
be room for a few more fish.
Steve

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Aquariums since 1952
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
NEW PAGE: Aquariums:
http://bellsouthpwp.net/s/h/shastada...ium-Page4.html
http://bellsouthpwp.net/s/h/shastadaisy
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Old December 28th 05, 11:05 PM posted to rec.aquaria.freshwater.misc
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Steve wrote:

I agree that in a filtered, established long 20 gallon aquarium there
may be room for a few more fish.


Especially if it's got lots of live plants.

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