What's the best SALT?

lol
You are not just adding salts back, you are adding all the toxins in that
water. The only thing that evaporates is H20, the rest: PO4, NH3, NH2,
etc... you are just feeding it back to the tank...

jrs
"TheRock" wrote in message
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When I do water changes I save my dirty water and evaporate it.
Then I scrape out the left over salt and add it back to the system later.
I've bought one bag of salt in the last 3 years !!!




(just kidding)


"Peter Pan" wrote in message
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I've been using Instant Ocean since I set up my 75 Gal. FOWLR tank in
2002 and never had a problem. I've read that its not really a good idea
to change salt, but if you were to change it, it was a very lengthy
process with mixing your current salt with the new stuff until your
completly changed over.( the process should take several months.

My local LFS said that KENT was better for my tank then using Instant
Ocean. What im wondering is; Is it better for his profits or is it really
a better product for my tank?

Thanks

LFSs like you? please!

jrs
"Wayne Sallee" wrote in message
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Well belive it or not, Kent is just instant ocean salt. If you don't
belive me you can go around asking your LFS.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets



Roy wrote on 1/21/2006 4:49 PM:
Come on Wayne why would Kent salt be the same as IO? Its contrary to
what lab results have shown on the various breakdowns of synthetic sea
salts commonly available. Its not even close to being Instant
Ocean.........

http://saltaquarium.about.com/cs/seasaltmixes/l/aa090503b.htmY'all
check it out and see what lab tests have shown....


Instant Ocean is a great salt so is Oceanic, and so is any other brand
that works for you..........If I was to guess since I do not really
know, the LFS is making more profit from Kent in more ways than one,
not only from the standpoint of margin of profit it costs them as
compared to I/O but probably as a way to be able to sell more of the
numerous KENT line of products to sup0plement what other salts already
have sufficiient quanities of.......Yea its a numbers game and a
marketing game, but Kent leaves a lot to be desired in lots of their
products........

Salt water is salt water if its got the same degree of salt content
generally speaking and is totally interchangeable with any
other......all thats going to vary for the most part which should not
create problems is trace minerals.........But like another posted
already " If it ain't broke why fix it?"

On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 19:45:49 GMT, Wayne Sallee
wrote:

Your LFS is lying to you. Kent is Instant Ocean in a Kent Bag.

The idea of not using different salts, is a scare tactic to keep
people from swiching salts.

The bit of trugh that lies in that statement is that some salt
manufactures have used in the past, or currently use (I have not found
anyone yet that does)EDTA (artificial clarifier). If your salts do
not, then there is no problem with mixing.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets



Peter Pan wrote on 1/21/2006 1:25 PM:
I've been using Instant Ocean since I set up my 75 Gal. FOWLR tank
in 2002 and never had a problem. I've read that its not really a
good idea to change salt, but if you were to change it, it was a
very lengthy process with mixing your current salt with the new
stuff until your completly changed over.( the process should take
several months.
My local LFS said that KENT was better for my tank then using
Instant Ocean. What im wondering is; Is it better for his profits or
is it really a better product for my tank?
Thanks

lol
I didn´t read the last, (just kidding) I fell for it!

jrs
"Roy" wrote in message
...
Ah come on admit its true, trust me no one is gonna laugh. .....come
on now admit its ture...thats got to be the best frugal thing i have
heard in a long long time.......

On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 22:33:09 GMT, "TheRock" wrote:
When I do water changes I save my dirty water and evaporate it.
Then I scrape out the left over salt and add it back to the system
later.
I've bought one bag of salt in the last 3 years !!!




(just kidding)


"Peter Pan" wrote in message
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I've been using Instant Ocean since I set up my 75 Gal. FOWLR tank in
2002
and never had a problem. I've read that its not really a good idea to
change salt, but if you were to change it, it was a very lengthy
process
with mixing your current salt with the new stuff until your completly
changed over.( the process should take several months.

My local LFS said that KENT was better for my tank then using Instant
Ocean. What im wondering is; Is it better for his profits or is it
really
a better product for my tank?

Thanks



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The original frugal ponder! Koi-ahoi mates....

Those "trace minerals" as you call them, are in every food or living
organism that you feed to your fish. Don't worry about your trace minerals,
worry more about that PO4 that feeds the algae and spoils your tank

jrs
"Billy" wrote in message
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"Roy" wrote in message
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Ah come on admit its true, trust me no one is gonna laugh. .....come
on now admit its ture...thats got to be the best frugal thing i have
heard in a long long time.......


Doesn't sound like that great an idea to me. The critters in the tank USE
the trace minerals in the salt mix. It would get so depleted after time, I
would think critters would begin to suffer.

"Jaime R-S" wrote in message
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Those "trace minerals" as you call them, are in every food or
living organism that you feed to your fish. Don't worry about your
trace minerals, worry more about that PO4 that feeds the algae and
spoils your tank



Sometimes I wonder why I bother posting here. Why don't drop by reef
central or GARF sometime and tell people that have been caring for
reef tanks all thier lives to "not worry about trace minerals".

Hi Wayne,

The assertion that Instant Ocean is the best salt seems to run contrary
to a study published in the March, 2003 issue of Reefkeeping. Here's a
link to that article:
http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/20...ture/index.php

The article describes a bio-assay experiment comparing several
different salt mixes (unfortunately Kent wasn't among them) to natural
salt water by comparing the development of sea urchin larvae in each.
The article goes into great detail about the methodology, a statistical
analysis of the results, and certain inferences drawn from a chemical
analysis of the commercial products.

The bottom line of the testing was that Instant Ocean and Coralife came
out looking pretty bad, both in terms of urchin development and of the
levels of undesirable metals in the products.

Of the salts tested, the winner by a pretty fair margin seems to be
Crystal Seas Marinemix - Bioassay Formula made by Marine Enterprises
International, Inc. This product's make-up was the closest to NSW and
it actually had a slightly better urchin development result than did
NSW.


Brackishly yours,

Alex

Tidepool Geek wrote:

Of the salts tested, the winner by a pretty fair margin seems to be
Crystal Seas Marinemix - Bioassay Formula made by Marine Enterprises
International, Inc. This product's make-up was the closest to NSW and
it actually had a slightly better urchin development result than did
NSW.

Just did a quick search and found this on Reef Central ...

Crystal Seas Marinemix causes bleaching?

http://reefcentral.com/forums/showth...12#post1179412

Opinions?

"Tidepool Geek" wrote in message oups.com...
The assertion that Instant Ocean is the best salt seems to run contrary
to a study published in the March, 2003 issue of Reefkeeping. Here's a
link to that article:
http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/20...ture/index.php

The article describes a bio-assay experiment comparing several
different salt mixes (unfortunately Kent wasn't among them) to natural
salt water by comparing the development of sea urchin larvae in each.
The article goes into great detail about the methodology, a statistical
analysis of the results, and certain inferences drawn from a chemical
analysis of the commercial products.

The bottom line of the testing was that Instant Ocean and Coralife came
out looking pretty bad, both in terms of urchin development and of the
levels of undesirable metals in the products.

Of the salts tested, the winner by a pretty fair margin seems to be
Crystal Seas Marinemix - Bioassay Formula made by Marine Enterprises
International, Inc. This product's make-up was the closest to NSW and
it actually had a slightly better urchin development result than did
NSW.

I wonder why then so many marine zoology labolatories and
commercial aquariums like Chciago Oceanarium are using
the same salf which is so bad... What would be the purpose
of studying a marine animal development in a salt mix causing
damage and negatively influencing development ?

Have you got the chance to hear the opinion of salt manufacturer ?
Have you tried to find a different explanations for the test results ?

"Jaime R-S" wrote in message ...
Those "trace minerals" as you call them, are in every food or living
organism that you feed to your fish. Don't worry about your trace minerals,
worry more about that PO4 that feeds the algae and spoils your tank

Not only PO4 but whole list of other minerals and organic polutants
you want to get rid of by doing the water change...

The new Aquarium in ATlanta has gone with Instant Ocean salt.....I
seen pics of the truck load of salt they got in during the filling of
the thing.....Now if memory serves me right, Kent is based out of
Georgia, and not too fara form ATlanta region, so if Kent salt was
nothing more than IO in a Kent bag, why did they not save bunches of
money and get it directly from Kent right down the road instead of
paying shipping costs to have it sent in from IO.......Perhaps Wayne
can tellus....
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