What's the best SALT?

"unclenorm" wrote in message oups.com...
It is no use trying to twist your statement now you
realise what a stupid statement it was.

No, I am far from realising this... Help me to realise, please! :-)

Your statement that your RO/DI filters do not do a very good
may well be true, for many reasons. A properly operated and
mentained good quality RO/DI unit will give you water that even
the best of your labs will not be able to detect any impuritys.

That was my point, exactly... A lot of good labs is NOT ABLE to
detect several ions at the concentrations listed in the NSW.
Why bother with such ions then ?

I am not cheating my self, purification of water to the
highest grade is our buisiness

Tell me please, how do you measure the concentration of Antimony and
Cesium in your water ? What are the levels of them in your fish tank ?
How about Tungsten, Chromium, Bismuth, Gold ? How often you test
for them and where do you test your water samples ? I am sure you
know what are the levels of these ions in the water... tell me, please!

p.s. Note, I am not mean and I do not ask about Radium and Radon :-)

"Pszemol" wrote in message
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"David Zopf" wrote in message
om...
I asked once, and politely, Wayne. You and Jamie are OT for r.a.m.reefs.

Then why do you take part in this OT discussion yourself ?
You are only adding oil to the fire already burning...


You are probably right... I added comments only as the conversation relates
to fishkeeping and (as Wayne says) our understanding of aquatic life. (and
to correct Wayne's mis-understandings of ToE, as best I can...)

DaveZ
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"Wayne Sallee" wrote in message
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Moon Snails:

One other poster said that their natural diet consists of clams and
oysters..

An evolution viewpoint-
They develped a way to eat nails in such a way that other creatures could
not.

Better to say; some Moon Snail ancestor which could eat shellfish bred more
successfully/more often, because of the advantage given by a either a more
nutritous or less competitive food source.

A creation viewpoint-
They were created to eat snails thus keeping the snail poplulation in
check.

The snail diet you observe in your tank is not the function it serves in
nature. Should Moon Snails be banned from sale, unless we provide them with
the food which their Creator intended for them?

Coral Reef Death:

An evolution viewpoint-
The corals have addapted to the environmental conditions that they live
in, and can't take the sudden increas in temperature, or other
environmental factors.

Yes, corals are highly adapted to (and successful in) their niche.

A creation viewpoint-
Some dyoff is part of the created plan to keep things in proper ballance.

Is the human waste/involvement part of the Created plan, too?

It is also reasonable under ToE to say that the ecosystem which developed
tends to try to keep itself in balance.

Parot Fish:

An evolution viewpoit-
They have evolved a way to get nutrition out of coral by eating flesh and
coral skeleton.

A creation viewpoint-
They were created to trim the coral,
OK

and help in the cycle of calcim by dropping large amounts of calcium
carbonate sand.

This is a mere observation of consequence, and is also true under ToE.

Cleaner Shrimp:

An evolution viewpoint-
They have learned over milions of years to eat parisites off of fish.

Learning is a trait of individuals. Individuals don't evolve, species do.
Say instead; a Cleaner shrimp ancestor gained a reproductive advantage over
others by adapting this behavior.

And have marked themselves, and changed their body to be seen by fish
wanting to be cleaned. And fish have learned over milions of years to go
to the shrimp to be cleande.

and again with the re-state. Don't you think you should learn the ToE,
_before_ you evaluate it against Creationism..?

A creation viewpoint-
They were created to clean fish, and Fish were given the instinct to go to
them to be cleaned.

Then why do cleaner species get eaten by their "clients"? The
"cleaner-client" instinct is pretty imperfect, for a God-given trait...


Whether you belive in creation, or evolution, affects the way you look at,
and deal with the life in your reef tank, and the life around you.

Aye, that it does. Your examples, though, look only at modern species.
We have evidence of species which have died off, both ancient and recent,
due to human action, and due to natural processes. Why Create species such
that they would perish (and here I'm thinking of the ones which die out not
because of human interaction)?
As for the life around me... at the beginning of the winter season, I went
to a doctor for a flu shot, rather than to a priest for a prayer. I'm a
theistic chemist (Why be suprised? The majority of scientists are...), I'd
prefer to use my God-given capacity for reason, and look at what the world
shows me, when dealing with the life around me. A literal interpretation of
a (revelatory) text doesn't aid that looking and reasoning, and isn't in the
spirit of the Book in the first place. Reading the Bible literally is good
for a giggle (Matthew 16:18 (http://bible.cc/matthew/16-18.htm) is my
favorite... so Peter was a rock, hmm? He was pretty mobile and chatty, for
a bit of granite.)

DaveZ
Atom Weaver

so what is the best salt????? lol