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Old April 12th 04, 11:40 PM
Boomer
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Ross is correct, the large one is a mantis shrimp, no doubt about that.

The others look like Amphipods, they are not structured right for Opossum shrimp.
Go here for a look , view them all
http://scilib.ucsd.edu/sio/nsf/fguide/arthropoda-1.html

http://www.mov.vic.gov.au/crust/page1.html

There is no such thing as a scyphoid larvae, other than a scyphoid, which is a jellyfish,
which these are not. Scyphoid, is also a structure name which means cup shaped or cup
like. Hence the name for jelly fish.
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"Toni" wrote in message
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: "Ross Bagley" wrote in message
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: The animal in the cup with the dime looks like an immature mantis
: shrimp. Article on mantis shrimp he
:
:
:
: Sorry for explaining poorly-
: The first two photos are of the creatures in question.
: Someone else has suggested that they are scyphoid larvae, but I am unable to
: find photo confirmation.
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Old April 13th 04, 02:10 PM
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"Boomer" wrote in message
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The others look like Amphipods, they are not structured right for Opossum

shrimp.
Go here for a look , view them all
http://scilib.ucsd.edu/sio/nsf/fguide/arthropoda-1.html

http://www.mov.vic.gov.au/crust/page1.html



Thanks- Dr. Shimek has identified them as sponges.


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Old April 13th 04, 10:19 PM
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"Thanks- Dr. Shimek has identified them as sponges."

LOL

I see it know. I'm sure Ross is hitting is heads also. I think we should have asked you if
they move. As from the pics they look like a crustacean population explosion. The word you
are lookin' for is Sypha sponges or Syconoid Sponges, not Scyphoid :-)

http://www.vattenkikaren.gu.se/fakta...ko/klek09.html

http://www.biol.rug.nl/onderwaterbiologie/foto9.jpg


http://www.seamasters.be/bio/spons/zakspons.htm

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"Toni" wrote in message
nk.net...
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: "Boomer" wrote in message
: ...
: The others look like Amphipods, they are not structured right for Opossum
: shrimp.
: Go here for a look , view them all
: http://scilib.ucsd.edu/sio/nsf/fguide/arthropoda-1.html
:
: http://www.mov.vic.gov.au/crust/page1.html
:
:
:
: Thanks- Dr. Shimek has identified them as sponges.
:
:
: --
: Toni
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Old April 14th 04, 11:11 AM
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"Boomer" wrote in message
...

I see it know. I'm sure Ross is hitting is heads also. I think we should

have asked you if
they move. As from the pics they look like a crustacean population

explosion. The word you
are lookin' for is Sypha sponges or Syconoid Sponges, not Scyphoid :-)



That's them!
Funny about them not moving- I collected a few for a magnified view and saw
not the first movement. I was convinced that they were either dead or
morphing.
Those photos and sites (and most especially the correct spelling) are most
welcome Boomer- Thank You!!


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Old April 14th 04, 06:07 PM
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Toni and Ross

Sorry I just drooped those sites all in a foreign language. Here are some English sites
on the biology


http://www.esu.edu/~milewski/intro_b.../Porifera.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sponge

http://www.palaeos.com/Invertebrates...a/Porifera.htm

http://www.lander.edu/rsfox/310poriferaLab.html

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"Toni" wrote in message
ink.net...
:
: "Boomer" wrote in message
: ...
:
: I see it know. I'm sure Ross is hitting is heads also. I think we should
: have asked you if
: they move. As from the pics they look like a crustacean population
: explosion. The word you
: are lookin' for is Sypha sponges or Syconoid Sponges, not Scyphoid :-)
:
:
:
: That's them!
: Funny about them not moving- I collected a few for a magnified view and saw
: not the first movement. I was convinced that they were either dead or
: morphing.
: Those photos and sites (and most especially the correct spelling) are most
: welcome Boomer- Thank You!!
:
:
: --
: Toni
: http://www.cearbhaill.com/reef.htm
:
:


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Old April 15th 04, 04:38 AM
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"Boomer" writes:

Toni and Ross


Sorry I just drooped those sites all in a foreign language. Here
are some English sites on the biology


Actually, my cryptic sump is becoming a sponge heaven (I'm in the
process os using the skimmer less and less as the sponges and tunicates
in there become more established). I'm a big fan of sponges in my
tank and try to encourage as much as possible their success.

I've got all of Steve Tyree's books natural filtration (along with
printouts of a few dozen scientific papers about sponges I was able to
scrape up on the web).

I just never would have identified those little critters as sponges
from the posted photos. I think I managed to convince myself that they
had been described as moving around and there was no way I would have
gotten it right after that.

Regards,
Ross

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Old April 15th 04, 08:27 PM
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"I just never would have identified those little critters as sponges
from the posted photos. "

Me either Ross, I also got the impression that they were moving around, crawling.

I have Steve's books also :-)
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"Ross Bagley" wrote in message
...
: "Boomer" writes:
:
: Toni and Ross
:
: Sorry I just drooped those sites all in a foreign language. Here
: are some English sites on the biology
:
: Actually, my cryptic sump is becoming a sponge heaven (I'm in the
: process os using the skimmer less and less as the sponges and tunicates
: in there become more established). I'm a big fan of sponges in my
: tank and try to encourage as much as possible their success.
:
: I've got all of Steve Tyree's books natural filtration (along with
: printouts of a few dozen scientific papers about sponges I was able to
: scrape up on the web).
:
: I just never would have identified those little critters as sponges
: from the posted photos. I think I managed to convince myself that they
: had been described as moving around and there was no way I would have
: gotten it right after that.
:
: Regards,
: Ross
:
: -- Ross Bagley http://rossbagley.com/rba
: "Security is mostly a superstition. It does not exist in nature...
: Life is either a daring adventure or nothing." -- Helen Keller


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Old April 15th 04, 11:09 AM
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"Boomer" wrote in message
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Toni and Ross

Sorry I just drooped those sites all in a foreign language. Here are some

English sites
on the biology
....snip



And thank you again.

-Toni


  #9  
Old April 14th 04, 07:40 AM
Ross Bagley
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"Toni" writes:

"Boomer" wrote in message
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The others look like Amphipods, they are not structured right for Opossum

shrimp.
Go here for a look , view them all
http://scilib.ucsd.edu/sio/nsf/fguide/arthropoda-1.html

http://www.mov.vic.gov.au/crust/page1.html


Thanks- Dr. Shimek has identified them as sponges.


There are plenty of times that I think I've got a clue about marine
tanks and then along comes something like this. Amazing.

Thanks for the links Boomer.

Reef tanks are simply awesome.

Regards,
Ross

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Life is either a daring adventure or nothing." -- Helen Keller
 




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