goldfish sick

Nikki wrote,
I don't know, any one have any idea if I should continue with salt dips or
hold off now...........

I would hold off. One tsb of salt per gal. in the tank will stimulate
it's slime coat. Their slime coat contains antibody, so you won't want
to strip it - give it a little time to heal.

Since i did ick med on day 1 and 2, what
now .....

You don't want to over do that eather. Malachite green remains within
tissue for a long time, so it's not like the med. stops working when
you stop adding it. Next treatment should still be on day 4 (with a 20%
water change before treatment). If you plan on leaving the pleco in
there, keep an eye on it. If it looks like it is going into respiratory
distress, it will have to be moved to an untreated tank.
................. Frank

On 14 Mar 2006 07:14:19 -0800, "Frank"
wrote:

Nikki wrote,
I don't know, any one have any idea if I should continue with salt dips or
hold off now...........

I would hold off. One tsb of salt per gal. in the tank will stimulate
it's slime coat. Their slime coat contains antibody, so you won't want
to strip it - give it a little time to heal.

Since i did ick med on day 1 and 2, what
now .....

You don't want to over do that eather. Malachite green remains within
tissue for a long time, so it's not like the med. stops working when
you stop adding it. Next treatment should still be on day 4 (with a 20%
water change before treatment). If you plan on leaving the pleco in
there, keep an eye on it. If it looks like it is going into respiratory
distress, it will have to be moved to an untreated tank.
................ Frank

I might add, when I find myself looking around for where to house a
fish temporarily and come up empty, I head for my local Tru Valu
hardware store and find a big no-name Tupperware container, there's
one with two red flaps on top that holds around 12 gallons that I just
love, for around 5 bucks. A lot of fry have grown up in those things.

-- Mister Gardener

I looked at all three of them a few minutes ago, the pleco has been out more
now because I have kept the light off, he is usually upside down on a big
rock somewhere, now he is on the glass so I was able to check him better, I
used a magnified glass, he looks fine to me I see nothing on him, the
gourami I think may have a couple ick spots (like a grain of salt) on his
side fins, but I am not 100% sure, the goldfish I don't see no ick on now,
but like I said his tail looks a little (hard to describe) white on the very
tips and I don't see any of the white on his coat like I seen before.
I thought I read that the salt would hurt the pleco, which is why I was
doing the salt dips out side of the tank in a bucket for the goldfish, am I
correct in thinking salt is bad for the pleco or could he deal with the
teaspoon per gallon, and how about the gourami, can he also deal with salt?
oh one question if anyone knows, my LFS does not have salt for fishtanks,
but I have the Morton's non-iodized salt which is what I use, I also have
salt I got at the store its called (Reese seasalt, it says fine crystals,
all natural, no additives, the ingredients are : refined sea salt.... that's
all) Any idea if that is better then the non-iodized table salt, at least
till I can find aquarium salt?? Thanks
I am not sure if the stuff on the goldfish I said I seen is fungus or
anything for that matter but while I was out today I grabbed T.C capsules
(antibiotic) incase in the end he does have some type of fungus, which is
what happened after getting rid of the ick in my guppy tank.
and if not I'll have them for if I ever need them.
thank you guys so much, the last few weeks I have just had a mess with my
tanks, and I do appreciate all the help. I also cut down on feeding I
usually feed twice a day, I try to feed different things, I got the jar of
food that has four different types of food breakfast/ lunch/ dinner/ snack
Nikki


"Frank" wrote in message
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Nikki wrote,
I don't know, any one have any idea if I should continue with salt dips or
hold off now...........

I would hold off. One tsb of salt per gal. in the tank will stimulate
it's slime coat. Their slime coat contains antibody, so you won't want
to strip it - give it a little time to heal.

Since i did ick med on day 1 and 2, what
now .....

You don't want to over do that eather. Malachite green remains within
tissue for a long time, so it's not like the med. stops working when
you stop adding it. Next treatment should still be on day 4 (with a 20%
water change before treatment). If you plan on leaving the pleco in
there, keep an eye on it. If it looks like it is going into respiratory
distress, it will have to be moved to an untreated tank.
................ Frank

There is no such thing as a "tsb"!! I would think one would try to give
very accurate clear info in a case like this...

Do you mean?
A. tsp (teaspoon)
B. Tbs (Tablespoon)

Karl.

Frank wrote:
I would hold off. One tsb of salt per gal.
................ Frank

hondaru wrote,
There is no such thing as a "tsb"!! I would think one would try to give
very accurate clear info in a case like this...
Do you mean?
A. tsp (teaspoon)
B. Tbs (Tablespoon)

Teaspoon - sometimes my typing finger has a mind of it's own, other
times I just misspell ;-) ........... Frank

I knew what you were saying (teaspoon), I got a bottle of peroxide and will
start doing that tonight, he is still looking pretty good (goldfish), I
might have to start going back to their normal feeding schedule, he is
getting snippy with me, I was just figuring since I was having problems it
might help to cut back on the food, the goldfish and gourami do get fed more
then the rest, the guppies and bettas I don't feed as often. The pleco will
be going to the 120 gallon as soon as it is set up, I keep telling my
husband to wait, (having nightmares of it going through my floor) I thought
about putting my African dwarf frogs in with one of my betta's, I have read
people have done it, and others say no, but I would like to give the
goldfish and gourami their tank back to them selves, before putting the
others in that tank, they were in there for two years and never got sick or
had any problems.
Nikki
Hey thanks for the help, I really appreciate it




"Frank" wrote in message
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hondaru wrote,
There is no such thing as a "tsb"!! I would think one would try to give
very accurate clear info in a case like this...
Do you mean?
A. tsp (teaspoon)
B. Tbs (Tablespoon)

Teaspoon - sometimes my typing finger has a mind of it's own, other
times I just misspell ;-) ........... Frank

The pleco will
be going to the 120 gallon as soon as it is set up, I keep telling my
husband to wait, (having nightmares of it going through my floor) I thought
about putting my African dwarf frogs in with one of my betta's, I have read
people have done it, and others say no...

If you're worried about the 120-gal aquarium weight (I'd worry too ),
why not fill it partially? You could grow plants up out of the water,
and even on some dry land area - nice for frogs? If there is dry land
and water, I think it's called a paludarium(?).

"Nikki" wrote in message
. ..
The pleco will
be going to the 120 gallon as soon as it is set up, I keep telling my
husband to wait, (having nightmares of it going through my floor) ........
======================
Which is the reason we nixed getting that great deal on a 120g at
PetsMart - everything to go for under $1,000. There's soil under the floor
where I want to put it (large dining-room) so jacks aren't going to work to
support the floor unless concrete footers of some kind are laid... too much
expense and it's only a crawl space. If I had a concrete floored basement
or finished garage I would buy it now.

--

Koi-Lo.... frugal ponding since 1995...
Aquariums since 1952
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
~~~ }((((o ~~~ }{{{{o ~~~ }(((((o

Well my husband does construction, builds houses /roofs, all that fun stuff
and i told him about what a few of the guys on here said to do, so he says
he will secure it from our basement which would be below the tank, but the
thought still worries me, there is a 55 gl in that place now, with a 29 gl
and a 10 gl below the 55 and we never had a problem, so i guess i will find
out soon
Nikki


"Koi-Lo" wrote in message
...

"Nikki" wrote in message
. ..
The pleco will
be going to the 120 gallon as soon as it is set up, I keep telling my
husband to wait, (having nightmares of it going through my floor)
........
======================
Which is the reason we nixed getting that great deal on a 120g at
PetsMart - everything to go for under $1,000. There's soil under the
floor where I want to put it (large dining-room) so jacks aren't going to
work to support the floor unless concrete footers of some kind are laid...
too much expense and it's only a crawl space. If I had a concrete floored
basement or finished garage I would buy it now.

--

Koi-Lo.... frugal ponding since 1995...
Aquariums since 1952
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
~~~ }((((o ~~~ }{{{{o ~~~ }(((((o

Koi-Lo wrote,
There's soil under the floor
where I want to put it (large dining-room) so jacks aren't going to work to
support the floor unless concrete footers of some kind are laid... too much
expense and it's only a crawl space. ........

The ground in your crawl space doesn't freeze does it? Just put a
concrete patio block on the ground and shore up from there. If the
ground doesn't freeze, it won't move up and down - no need for a
footing............. Frank