blue betta

"Tynk" wrote in message
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Nikki wrote:
"IDzine01" wrote in message
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I don't breed bettas I just keep them... love too, but I don't ...
That's all Tynk.

I have never breed betta's, but have raised guppy fry which turned out
very
pretty (not that i had to do much, but i'll take credit for it anyway)
but i
have tried to get a female betta, ...so i found a place that breeds all
kind of neat fish
and they are going to order them for me, i figured i may be better off
with
my own instead of buying them sick from the store around here.
Nikki
Hi there Nikki.

no local pet stores carry them... said
they are ungly...hmm

Anyone who claims that female Bettas are ugly is a fool and doesn't
know squat about Bettas!!!!
Oh this one makes me as mad as when people pronounce Betta as "bait-uh"
(it's Bet-uh of course).
I would like to email you some pics of female Bettas and you can tell
me how *ugly* they are, LOL.
You see....
In the shops most females will show *submission coloring*. This is
simply because they've been tossed together with other strange females
that they do not know. They do not have a hierarchy established and
that means everybody is a little freaked out.
Their submission coloring is when they blanch out their coloring and
show horizontal barring. Once in their estrablished new home, they
quickly color up.
Of course may times in the shops you will see lovely colored females
all in one tank.
They are either spawn siblings and have had their pecking order figured
out since they were babes, or they have been sitting there a while and
have established their hierarchy already.
So drop me an email to remind me to send you pics of my personal *ugly*
female Bettas. = )~
Ugly....sheesh!
More like ignorant employees.
I will add one more thing too....do NOT even think about spawning
Bettas until you have a lot of experience in Betta husbandry, and
become well educated in Betta body language, proper care, and the much
needed research on how to raise Betta fry. These babies are almost too
small to even see when hatched.
I'm talking get out a magnifying glass until they're a few days old.
Because of their tiny size, they need special size foods and even the
tank conditions need to be just right or they all die off.
You know how large your live bearer fry were. Those are huge monster
babies compared to Betta fry.
= O ---- you're making this face right now, aren't you. = )


No, not at all, I like all the info I can get, your right I have only been
keeping betta's for a short while, but really do enjoy them, I have read a
lot about breeding them, every thing I could find off the net anyway, but I
am aware doing it is much different, but I would not do it until I was a bit
more confident in keeping mom & dad alive first.
But I am getting a few females now, I also have seen a lot of pretty female
betta's, I have a breeder ordering them for me, I ask one of the fish stores
around here first and she said she can only get them six at a time, then no
one wants them because they are ugly, so she is stuck with them, I did
offered to get all six, but she said no its a hassle, I called some of the
other places and they told me the same thing, every one wants the males
because they are pretty, they said when people see the female they are not
want they want because they are not pretty like the male.
So yes I agree with you and don't think they are ugly, however if you think
about some of the reasons people get bettas, they see them and think they
are pretty and easy to take care of, for a first fish for their kids, they
usually don't get taken care of well, most of the time no filter or heater,
that's even if they are ok when you buy them, I have got four, three were
sick that same day, which is from being left in cups at the store, the blue
ones I just got, there was a film over the water when I got them, and really
how hard is it to change water in a cup.
Anyway before I decide to breed them I will have had figured it out, until
six months ago we only had "big fish" we kept Oscars, paccu piranha's, we
did have a few jack dempsey's, but mostly big fish which were easier to take
care of in the sense they did not get sick as often, and they lived a long
time.
anyway thanks for the info
and remember to send the pic of your female betta's

Moments before spontaneously combusting Nikki at
was heard opining:

But I am getting a few females now, I also have seen a lot of pretty
female betta's, I have a breeder ordering them for me, I ask one of
the fish stores around here first and she said she can only get them
six at a time, .........
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Healthy female bettas are every bit as pretty as the males as far as color
goes. If you have a Wal*Mart or Pet Supermarket in your area check them out
as they sell females at most times. I have never seen females at PetsMart,
Petland or Superpets. Now they may have them occasionally, but I've never
seen them there.

--

Koi-Lo.... frugal ponding since 1995...
Aquariums since 1952
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
~~~ }((((o ~~~ }{{{{o ~~~ }(((((o

I also called petsmart and your right they said they don't get them in
*most* of the time.
I do have a Wal-Mart not to far, I have never considered getting fish there
but maybe ill try.
thanks Nikki


"Koi-Lo" wrote in message
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Moments before spontaneously combusting Nikki at
was heard opining:

But I am getting a few females now, I also have seen a lot of pretty
female betta's, I have a breeder ordering them for me, I ask one of
the fish stores around here first and she said she can only get them
six at a time, .........
========================
Healthy female bettas are every bit as pretty as the males as far as color
goes. If you have a Wal*Mart or Pet Supermarket in your area check them
out as they sell females at most times. I have never seen females at
PetsMart, Petland or Superpets. Now they may have them occasionally, but
I've never seen them there.

--

Koi-Lo.... frugal ponding since 1995...
Aquariums since 1952
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
~~~ }((((o ~~~ }{{{{o ~~~ }(((((o

Moments before spontaneously combusting Nikki at
was heard opining:

I also called petsmart and your right they said they don't get them in
*most* of the time.
I do have a Wal-Mart not to far, I have never considered getting fish
there but maybe ill try.
thanks Nikki
=======================
Make sure you treat all WM fish for ICK. I just bought the first fish in
years at WM today. See my post above regarding calico Lionheads. They'll
be treated for ICK, then flukes. They'll be in quarantine for at least 14
to 21 days.

They had at least 6 female bettas and all looked healthy but were young and
small.
--
Koi-Lo.... frugal ponding since 1995...
Aquariums since 1952
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
~~~ }((((o ~~~ }{{{{o ~~~ }(((((o

On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 16:46:22 -0600, "Koi-Lo"
wrote:

Moments before spontaneously combusting Nikki at
was heard opining:

I also called petsmart and your right they said they don't get them in
*most* of the time.
I do have a Wal-Mart not to far, I have never considered getting fish
there but maybe ill try.
thanks Nikki
=======================
Make sure you treat all WM fish for ICK. I just bought the first fish in
years at WM today. See my post above regarding calico Lionheads. They'll
be treated for ICK, then flukes. They'll be in quarantine for at least 14
to 21 days.

Now there you go again, spontaneously combusting Nikki. At this rate
you're going to everyone blown up and no one to talk to.

Why are you treating your new fish for diseases that you haven't
identified?

-- Mister Gardener

"Mr. Gardener" wrote in message
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On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 16:46:22 -0600, "Koi-Lo"
wrote:

Moments before spontaneously combusting Nikki at
was heard opining:

I also called petsmart and your right they said they don't get them in
*most* of the time.
I do have a Wal-Mart not to far, I have never considered getting fish
there but maybe ill try.
thanks Nikki
=======================
Make sure you treat all WM fish for ICK. I just bought the first fish in
years at WM today. See my post above regarding calico Lionheads. They'll
be treated for ICK, then flukes. They'll be in quarantine for at least 14
to 21 days.

Now there you go again, spontaneously combusting Nikki. At this rate
you're going to everyone blown up and no one to talk to.

Why are you treating your new fish for diseases that you haven't
identified?
============================
Because there were several tanks of fish there crawling with ICK. There was
no way these GF weren't exposed, even though they were only in the tank
maybe an hour. No one there soaks the nets or specimen containers in
disinfectant. No one there CARES.

I've heard enough horror stories about flukes to go for the bucks to treat
them for that as well. I asked the young man there if they had medication
or salt in the water and he said they're not even allowed to feed the fish
anymore. They keep the tank-tops locked now. There were starving plecos
and puffers, dead fish floating..........

I'm not taking any chances.

--
Koi-Lo.... frugal ponding since 1995...
Aquariums since 1952
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
~~~ }((((o ~~~ }{{{{o ~~~ }(((((o

On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 17:35:08 -0600, "Koi-Lo"
wrote:


"Mr. Gardener" wrote in message
.. .
On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 16:46:22 -0600, "Koi-Lo"
wrote:

Moments before spontaneously combusting Nikki at
was heard opining:

Whew. Thanks for not spontaneously combusting me. I can live to write
another message.

-- Mister Gardener

Koi-Lo wrote:

"Mr. Gardener" wrote in message
...

On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 16:46:22 -0600, "Koi-Lo"
wrote:

Moments before spontaneously combusting Nikki at
was heard opining:

I also called petsmart and your right they said they don't get them in
*most* of the time.
I do have a Wal-Mart not to far, I have never considered getting fish
there but maybe ill try.
thanks Nikki

=======================
Make sure you treat all WM fish for ICK. I just bought the first
fish in
years at WM today. See my post above regarding calico Lionheads.
They'll
be treated for ICK, then flukes. They'll be in quarantine for at
least 14
to 21 days.


Now there you go again, spontaneously combusting Nikki. At this rate
you're going to everyone blown up and no one to talk to.

Why are you treating your new fish for diseases that you haven't
identified?

============================
Because there were several tanks of fish there crawling with ICK. There
was no way these GF weren't exposed, even though they were only in the
tank maybe an hour. No one there soaks the nets or specimen containers
in disinfectant. No one there CARES.

I've heard enough horror stories about flukes to go for the bucks to
treat them for that as well. I asked the young man there if they had
medication or salt in the water and he said they're not even allowed to
feed the fish anymore. They keep the tank-tops locked now. There were
starving plecos and puffers, dead fish floating..........

I'm not taking any chances.


sometimes when I read these horror stories I wonder why you don't all
just walk with your feet - stores that can't sell the fish will not be
there in a short amount of time but new ones will come that satisify the
market for good quality fish because if they don't they will fail as
well....everytime even one of you buys fish from one of these places,
for whatever reasons, it reinforces their policy of not caring for fish
not mattering - people will buy them anyway....

Now I'm going to duck again - as NetMax so elequently put in a recent
post - Gill Passman "hit and run"....

wow, were did this post go
all I know is I did not buy, treat, post, nor was I patriotic, at least not
today..
hope you all have a good night....I have had a bad one, I almost fried one
of my betta's
the heater was on the same temp for some time, always at 80-82, I came home
tonight and it was stuck on, needless to say I threw it away but the temp in
the tank was nearly 98 degree's, betta was quite mad and floating, I took
him out and put him in water that was 78 degree's and cooled the tank down,
changed the heater, I put him back in his tank, he don't look great but he
don't look dead no more either so who knows, I'm going to hope he makes it,
I feel real bad about it, the heater was a few years old so maybe it
broke....
o-well I'm going to go lay down, my baby has a high fever *this weather in
pgh pa is horrible, 60 degrees one day and 20 degrees the next*
Nikki


"Mr. Gardener" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 16:46:22 -0600, "Koi-Lo"
wrote:

Moments before spontaneously combusting Nikki at
was heard opining:

I also called petsmart and your right they said they don't get them in
*most* of the time.
I do have a Wal-Mart not to far, I have never considered getting fish
there but maybe ill try.
thanks Nikki
=======================
Make sure you treat all WM fish for ICK. I just bought the first fish in
years at WM today. See my post above regarding calico Lionheads. They'll
be treated for ICK, then flukes. They'll be in quarantine for at least 14
to 21 days.

Now there you go again, spontaneously combusting Nikki. At this rate
you're going to everyone blown up and no one to talk to.

Why are you treating your new fish for diseases that you haven't
identified?

-- Mister Gardener

On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 23:33:40 -0500, "Nikki"
wrote:

the heater was on the same temp for some time, always at 80-82, I came home
tonight and it was stuck on, needless to say I threw it away but the temp in
the tank was nearly 98 degree's, betta was quite mad and floating, I took
him out and put him in water that was 78 degree's and cooled the tank down,
changed the heater, I put him back in his tank, he don't look great but he
don't look dead no more either so who knows, I'm going to hope he makes it,
I feel real bad about it, the heater was a few years old so maybe it
broke...

Wow. I've never had a heater go on me, but I've read about it. Hope
your betta makes it. And it's fortunate that you had an extra heater
on hand.

-- Mister Gardener