blue betta

On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 16:46:22 -0600, "Koi-Lo"
wrote:

Moments before spontaneously combusting Nikki at
was heard opining:

I also called petsmart and your right they said they don't get them in
*most* of the time.
I do have a Wal-Mart not to far, I have never considered getting fish
there but maybe ill try.
thanks Nikki
=======================
Make sure you treat all WM fish for ICK. I just bought the first fish in
years at WM today. See my post above regarding calico Lionheads. They'll
be treated for ICK, then flukes. They'll be in quarantine for at least 14
to 21 days.

Now there you go again, spontaneously combusting Nikki. At this rate
you're going to everyone blown up and no one to talk to.

Why are you treating your new fish for diseases that you haven't
identified?

-- Mister Gardener

"Mr. Gardener" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 16:46:22 -0600, "Koi-Lo"
wrote:

Moments before spontaneously combusting Nikki at
was heard opining:

I also called petsmart and your right they said they don't get them in
*most* of the time.
I do have a Wal-Mart not to far, I have never considered getting fish
there but maybe ill try.
thanks Nikki
=======================
Make sure you treat all WM fish for ICK. I just bought the first fish in
years at WM today. See my post above regarding calico Lionheads. They'll
be treated for ICK, then flukes. They'll be in quarantine for at least 14
to 21 days.

Now there you go again, spontaneously combusting Nikki. At this rate
you're going to everyone blown up and no one to talk to.

Why are you treating your new fish for diseases that you haven't
identified?
============================
Because there were several tanks of fish there crawling with ICK. There was
no way these GF weren't exposed, even though they were only in the tank
maybe an hour. No one there soaks the nets or specimen containers in
disinfectant. No one there CARES.

I've heard enough horror stories about flukes to go for the bucks to treat
them for that as well. I asked the young man there if they had medication
or salt in the water and he said they're not even allowed to feed the fish
anymore. They keep the tank-tops locked now. There were starving plecos
and puffers, dead fish floating..........

I'm not taking any chances.

--
Koi-Lo.... frugal ponding since 1995...
Aquariums since 1952
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
~~~ }((((o ~~~ }{{{{o ~~~ }(((((o

On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 17:35:08 -0600, "Koi-Lo"
wrote:


"Mr. Gardener" wrote in message
.. .
On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 16:46:22 -0600, "Koi-Lo"
wrote:

Moments before spontaneously combusting Nikki at
was heard opining:

Whew. Thanks for not spontaneously combusting me. I can live to write
another message.

-- Mister Gardener

Koi-Lo wrote:

"Mr. Gardener" wrote in message
...

On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 16:46:22 -0600, "Koi-Lo"
wrote:

Moments before spontaneously combusting Nikki at
was heard opining:

I also called petsmart and your right they said they don't get them in
*most* of the time.
I do have a Wal-Mart not to far, I have never considered getting fish
there but maybe ill try.
thanks Nikki

=======================
Make sure you treat all WM fish for ICK. I just bought the first
fish in
years at WM today. See my post above regarding calico Lionheads.
They'll
be treated for ICK, then flukes. They'll be in quarantine for at
least 14
to 21 days.


Now there you go again, spontaneously combusting Nikki. At this rate
you're going to everyone blown up and no one to talk to.

Why are you treating your new fish for diseases that you haven't
identified?

============================
Because there were several tanks of fish there crawling with ICK. There
was no way these GF weren't exposed, even though they were only in the
tank maybe an hour. No one there soaks the nets or specimen containers
in disinfectant. No one there CARES.

I've heard enough horror stories about flukes to go for the bucks to
treat them for that as well. I asked the young man there if they had
medication or salt in the water and he said they're not even allowed to
feed the fish anymore. They keep the tank-tops locked now. There were
starving plecos and puffers, dead fish floating..........

I'm not taking any chances.


sometimes when I read these horror stories I wonder why you don't all
just walk with your feet - stores that can't sell the fish will not be
there in a short amount of time but new ones will come that satisify the
market for good quality fish because if they don't they will fail as
well....everytime even one of you buys fish from one of these places,
for whatever reasons, it reinforces their policy of not caring for fish
not mattering - people will buy them anyway....

Now I'm going to duck again - as NetMax so elequently put in a recent
post - Gill Passman "hit and run"....

Moments before spontaneously combusting Gill Passman at
was heard opining:

Koi-Lo wrote:
Because there were several tanks of fish there crawling with ICK. There
was no way these GF weren't exposed, even though they were
only in the tank maybe an hour. No one there soaks the nets or
specimen containers in disinfectant. No one there CARES.

I've heard enough horror stories about flukes to go for the bucks to
treat them for that as well. I asked the young man there if they had
medication or salt in the water and he said they're not even allowed
to feed the fish anymore. They keep the tank-tops locked now. There were
starving plecos and puffers, dead fish floating..........

I'm not taking any chances.
======================

sometimes when I read these horror stories I wonder why you don't all
just walk with your feet - stores that can't sell the fish will not be
there in a short amount of time but new ones will come that satisify
the market for good quality fish because if they don't they will fail
as well....everytime even one of you buys fish from one of these
places, for whatever reasons, it reinforces their policy of not caring for
fish not mattering - people will buy them anyway....

I've been looking for calico lionheads since last October. None of the
stores here get them in. I was getting desperate enough to consider
ordering them online. I seldom buy anything online. And suddenly there
they were - right before my very eyes! Nice smooth rounded backs, nice
tails, healthy looking (they just arrived), active, nicely marked... I
weakened and had to have 4 of them. After they settled down I fed them some
shrimp pellets and they scarffed them up. :-) So far so good.


Now I'm going to duck again - as NetMax so elequently put in a recent
post - Gill Passman "hit and run"....
--

Koi-Lo.... frugal ponding since 1995...
Aquariums since 1952
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
~~~ }((((o ~~~ }{{{{o ~~~ }(((((o

On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 23:49:17 +0000, Gill Passman
wrote:

Koi-Lo wrote:

"Mr. Gardener" wrote in message
...

On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 16:46:22 -0600, "Koi-Lo"
wrote:

Moments before spontaneously combusting Nikki at
was heard opining:

I also called petsmart and your right they said they don't get them in
*most* of the time.
I do have a Wal-Mart not to far, I have never considered getting fish
there but maybe ill try.
thanks Nikki

=======================
Make sure you treat all WM fish for ICK. I just bought the first
fish in
years at WM today. See my post above regarding calico Lionheads.
They'll
be treated for ICK, then flukes. They'll be in quarantine for at
least 14
to 21 days.


Now there you go again, spontaneously combusting Nikki. At this rate
you're going to everyone blown up and no one to talk to.

Why are you treating your new fish for diseases that you haven't
identified?

============================
Because there were several tanks of fish there crawling with ICK. There
was no way these GF weren't exposed, even though they were only in the
tank maybe an hour. No one there soaks the nets or specimen containers
in disinfectant. No one there CARES.

I've heard enough horror stories about flukes to go for the bucks to
treat them for that as well. I asked the young man there if they had
medication or salt in the water and he said they're not even allowed to
feed the fish anymore. They keep the tank-tops locked now. There were
starving plecos and puffers, dead fish floating..........

I'm not taking any chances.


sometimes when I read these horror stories I wonder why you don't all
just walk with your feet - stores that can't sell the fish will not be
there in a short amount of time but new ones will come that satisify the
market for good quality fish because if they don't they will fail as
well....everytime even one of you buys fish from one of these places,
for whatever reasons, it reinforces their policy of not caring for fish
not mattering - people will buy them anyway....

Now I'm going to duck again - as NetMax so elequently put in a recent
post - Gill Passman "hit and run"....

The lure of saving a dollar is powerful in this country, and most
likely in many other countries as well. Powerful enough that we will
purchase diseased animals and goods of questionable quality produced
by workers on the other side of the world whose wages and workplaces
are sweatshop conditions, from store employees working for barely
minimum wages who rarely speak up about the forced unpaid overtime,
missed meal breaks, little or no fringe benefits, wearing bright blue
smocks with yellow happy faces pinned to their chests - Hi, how are
you today - that will be $$ - thankyou now you have a great day NEXT?
- - but if we can save a dollar or two, it's worth it. And now that we
have spread our good fortune into a global economy, you can also
benefit from the great savings. Now, aren't you glad you lost the
revolution? Where would you be without us? Heck, even your Beatles and
Rolling Stones admit they learned their music from dirt poor
amerikans.

-- Mister Gardener

Mr. Gardener wrote:
On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 23:49:17 +0000, Gill Passman
wrote:


Koi-Lo wrote:

"Mr. Gardener" wrote in message
...


On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 16:46:22 -0600, "Koi-Lo"
wrote:


Moments before spontaneously combusting Nikki at
was heard opining:


I also called petsmart and your right they said they don't get them in
*most* of the time.
I do have a Wal-Mart not to far, I have never considered getting fish
there but maybe ill try.
thanks Nikki

=======================
Make sure you treat all WM fish for ICK. I just bought the first
fish in
years at WM today. See my post above regarding calico Lionheads.
They'll
be treated for ICK, then flukes. They'll be in quarantine for at
least 14
to 21 days.


Now there you go again, spontaneously combusting Nikki. At this rate
you're going to everyone blown up and no one to talk to.

Why are you treating your new fish for diseases that you haven't
identified?

============================
Because there were several tanks of fish there crawling with ICK. There
was no way these GF weren't exposed, even though they were only in the
tank maybe an hour. No one there soaks the nets or specimen containers
in disinfectant. No one there CARES.

I've heard enough horror stories about flukes to go for the bucks to
treat them for that as well. I asked the young man there if they had
medication or salt in the water and he said they're not even allowed to
feed the fish anymore. They keep the tank-tops locked now. There were
starving plecos and puffers, dead fish floating..........

I'm not taking any chances.


sometimes when I read these horror stories I wonder why you don't all
just walk with your feet - stores that can't sell the fish will not be
there in a short amount of time but new ones will come that satisify the
market for good quality fish because if they don't they will fail as
well....everytime even one of you buys fish from one of these places,
for whatever reasons, it reinforces their policy of not caring for fish
not mattering - people will buy them anyway....

Now I'm going to duck again - as NetMax so elequently put in a recent
post - Gill Passman "hit and run"....


The lure of saving a dollar is powerful in this country, and most
likely in many other countries as well. Powerful enough that we will
purchase diseased animals and goods of questionable quality produced
by workers on the other side of the world whose wages and workplaces
are sweatshop conditions, from store employees working for barely
minimum wages who rarely speak up about the forced unpaid overtime,
missed meal breaks, little or no fringe benefits, wearing bright blue
smocks with yellow happy faces pinned to their chests - Hi, how are
you today - that will be $$ - thankyou now you have a great day NEXT?
- - but if we can save a dollar or two, it's worth it. And now that we
have spread our good fortune into a global economy, you can also
benefit from the great savings. Now, aren't you glad you lost the
revolution? Where would you be without us? Heck, even your Beatles and
Rolling Stones admit they learned their music from dirt poor
amerikans.

-- Mister Gardener

I rather think you are trying to flame me here...and I will not
rise...revolution - what revolution??? Us Brits have never done this
stuff - half arsed attempt at a civil war many centuries ago - chopped
off the head of the king...waited a while and then crowned his son. We
just let go of a troublesome colony...hey, Canada is still part of the
"Commonwealth" and we all get on fine...Nuff said (and I am tongue in
cheek so need not get patriotic responses)...

Yeah, right, everything is about the saved pound or dollar...but
sometimes things are more important...I want to buy relatively healthy
fish...doesn't always happen but the legislation in place here makes it
more likely than not - otherwise these places get reported and get shut
down....Don't knock it....it's what all you guys really want in your
country...

As for exploitation - where were your jeans or trainers manufactured????
- sorry, woops, no flame war or off-topic stuff here....forget I typed
this....

Gill

On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 00:36:13 +0000, Gill Passman
wrote:


I rather think you are trying to flame me here...and I will not
rise...revolution - what revolution??? Us Brits have never done this
stuff - half arsed attempt at a civil war many centuries ago - chopped
off the head of the king...waited a while and then crowned his son. We
just let go of a troublesome colony...hey, Canada is still part of the
"Commonwealth" and we all get on fine...Nuff said (and I am tongue in
cheek so need not get patriotic responses)...

Yeah, right, everything is about the saved pound or dollar...but
sometimes things are more important...I want to buy relatively healthy
fish...doesn't always happen but the legislation in place here makes it
more likely than not - otherwise these places get reported and get shut
down....Don't knock it....it's what all you guys really want in your
country...

As for exploitation - where were your jeans or trainers manufactured????
- sorry, woops, no flame war or off-topic stuff here....forget I typed
this....

Gill
We're all part of this globalized consumerism, whether we want to be
or not. No flame intended, purely in jest. You did, however, give me
an idea for my next library visit, and that is to see what I can find
in the British history books about the amerikan revolution. Time to
take this topic off the fish board and get back to business.

I stopped in at Petco yesterday while I was in the city, bought a case
of cat food for a new feline in my home that refuses to eat the dry
food we serve our other cats. He'll learn by the time he finishes this
case. I wandered into the fish department, can never resist, and
browsed the tanks. They looked good, the fish looked really good. In
fact, I saw a tank of very nice looking angels . . . but as I looked
further, I noted that there were dozens of bags of fish hanging in the
tanks acclimating . . . delivery day . . . bad time to buy new fish.
Next time I go there, when the skinny teenager asks if he can help me,
maybe I'll strike up a conversation with him and see just what he
knows and how he cares for the fish. Instead of politely brushing him
off or intentionally asking him a difficult question that I know will
stymie him.

-- Mister Gardener

"Mr. Gardener" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 00:36:13 +0000, Gill Passman
wrote:


I rather think you are trying to flame me here...and I will not
rise...revolution - what revolution??? Us Brits have never done this
stuff - half arsed attempt at a civil war many centuries ago - chopped
off the head of the king...waited a while and then crowned his son. We
just let go of a troublesome colony...hey, Canada is still part of the
"Commonwealth" and we all get on fine...Nuff said (and I am tongue in
cheek so need not get patriotic responses)...

Yeah, right, everything is about the saved pound or dollar...but
sometimes things are more important...I want to buy relatively healthy
fish...doesn't always happen but the legislation in place here makes it
more likely than not - otherwise these places get reported and get shut
down....Don't knock it....it's what all you guys really want in your
country...

As for exploitation - where were your jeans or trainers manufactured????
- sorry, woops, no flame war or off-topic stuff here....forget I typed
this....

Gill
We're all part of this globalized consumerism, whether we want to be
or not. No flame intended, purely in jest. You did, however, give me
an idea for my next library visit, and that is to see what I can find
in the British history books about the amerikan revolution. Time to
take this topic off the fish board and get back to business.

I stopped in at Petco yesterday while I was in the city, bought a case
of cat food for a new feline in my home that refuses to eat the dry
food we serve our other cats. He'll learn by the time he finishes this
case. I wandered into the fish department, can never resist, and
browsed the tanks. They looked good, the fish looked really good. In
fact, I saw a tank of very nice looking angels . . . but as I looked
further, I noted that there were dozens of bags of fish hanging in the
tanks acclimating . . . delivery day . . . bad time to buy new fish.
Next time I go there, when the skinny teenager asks if he can help me,
maybe I'll strike up a conversation with him and see just what he
knows and how he cares for the fish. Instead of politely brushing him
off or intentionally asking him a difficult question that I know will
stymie him.

-- Mister Gardener

--off topic--- just for a sec
My mom has a Myers puma (spelling is wrong, but that's how its said) neat
cat
they are breed in Maryland, anyhow, she had that same problem, it would
starve before eating dry food, she mixed wet with dry for a few weeks and
weaned, finally it ate dry food.
---back on topic----
They have petco's every where I guess, huh, I got one here also, we always
have teens in ours walking around confused instead of working maybe its
their policy
Nikki

Moments before spontaneously combusting Mr. Gardener at
was heard opining:

The lure of saving a dollar is powerful in this country, and most
likely in many other countries as well. Powerful enough that we will
purchase diseased animals and goods of questionable quality produced
by workers on the other side of the world whose wages and workplaces
are sweatshop conditions, from store employees working for barely
minimum wages who rarely speak up about the forced unpaid overtime,
missed meal breaks, little or no fringe benefits, wearing bright blue
smocks with yellow happy faces pinned to their chests

These employees don't care because they're not there very long. I seldom
see the same faces in any dept. or at the registers. The turnover must be
90% or better. They need to get Unions in some of these places.

- Hi, how are
you today - that will be $$ - thankyou now you have a great day NEXT?
- - but if we can save a dollar or two, it's worth it.

It's MORE than a dollar or two. You can't beat WM's prices across the board
*and* you can get everything in the one store making shopping easy and fast.
That's the main reason we shop there.

--
Koi-Lo.... frugal ponding since 1995...
Aquariums since 1952
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
~~~ }((((o ~~~ }{{{{o ~~~ }(((((o