Pelcos- Do they out grow tanks?

On 18 Apr 2006 13:57:23 -0700, "Adam"
wrote:

Regional differences must make a huge impact as well (speaking to Mr.
Gardner's comment on home breeders). After doing some reading on Zebra
Plecos, it seems one could make a killing if they could get a viable
breeding pair. I checked out a different lfs last night that had some
great cats (fish) and zebra (plecos) came up. He claimed that he could
get them well under the $100 per fry that they seem to be going for on
fish auction web sites. I have also seen bushy/bristle the last few
times I have been shopping here in New England.

We've discussed previously the increasing number of bushy noses that
are arriving with health problems. My lfs told me that his supplier
informed him he's not going to be getting any for a while, until he
starts seeing healthier fish coming through. This particular supplier
services all of the fish sellers in this region, so for now, they are
not available in Northern New England - except those that the big box
stores may be bringing in from their own distributors. I wasn't sure
if I was asking for trade secrets when I asked him if there are
numerous suppliers or if all of his competitors get their fish from
the same place. His answer was same place. He said the biggies like
Petco have their own suppliers, several main distribution points set
up across the country, keeping their costs down by purchasing in mega
quantities and having them delivered to just a handful of distribution
centers. I enjoy picking my lfs' brain and trying to learn as much as
I can about the supply and distribution system; I'm interested in what
comes from where, Asian fish farms, Florida farms, and wild caught.
A reliable home breeder of any number of different species could pick
up some nice change linking up with a couple of mom and pop stores.

-- Mister Gardener

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On 18 Apr 2006 13:57:23 -0700, "Adam"
wrote:

Regional differences must make a huge impact as well (speaking to Mr.
Gardner's comment on home breeders). After doing some reading on Zebra
Plecos, it seems one could make a killing if they could get a viable
breeding pair. I checked out a different lfs last night that had some
great cats (fish) and zebra (plecos) came up. He claimed that he could
get them well under the $100 per fry that they seem to be going for on
fish auction web sites. I have also seen bushy/bristle the last few
times I have been shopping here in New England.

We've discussed previously the increasing number of bushy noses that
are arriving with health problems. My lfs told me that his supplier
informed him he's not going to be getting any for a while, until he
starts seeing healthier fish coming through. This particular supplier
services all of the fish sellers in this region, so for now, they are
not available in Northern New England - except those that the big box
stores may be bringing in from their own distributors. I wasn't sure
if I was asking for trade secrets when I asked him if there are
numerous suppliers or if all of his competitors get their fish from
the same place. His answer was same place. He said the biggies like
Petco have their own suppliers, several main distribution points set
up across the country, keeping their costs down by purchasing in mega
quantities and having them delivered to just a handful of distribution
centers. I enjoy picking my lfs' brain and trying to learn as much as
I can about the supply and distribution system; I'm interested in what
comes from where, Asian fish farms, Florida farms, and wild caught.
A reliable home breeder of any number of different species could pick
up some nice change linking up with a couple of mom and pop stores.

-- Mister Gardener


Every country has lots of wholesalers.
I mean **** I'm in backwards Oz and I buy from 4 freshwater wholesalers and
2 marine.
If theres a drought on bristlys you should definitely start breedint them.
Bloody easy dude, doesn't have to be pretty either.
Could make ya some good cash, they can go in almost any tank and sell better
than guppys even.

On Thu, 20 Apr 2006 19:44:33 +1000, "swarvegorilla"
wrote:


"Mister Gardener" wrote in message
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On 18 Apr 2006 13:57:23 -0700, "Adam"
wrote:

Regional differences must make a huge impact as well (speaking to Mr.
Gardner's comment on home breeders). After doing some reading on Zebra
Plecos, it seems one could make a killing if they could get a viable
breeding pair. I checked out a different lfs last night that had some
great cats (fish) and zebra (plecos) came up. He claimed that he could
get them well under the $100 per fry that they seem to be going for on
fish auction web sites. I have also seen bushy/bristle the last few
times I have been shopping here in New England.

We've discussed previously the increasing number of bushy noses that
are arriving with health problems. My lfs told me that his supplier
informed him he's not going to be getting any for a while, until he
starts seeing healthier fish coming through. This particular supplier
services all of the fish sellers in this region, so for now, they are
not available in Northern New England - except those that the big box
stores may be bringing in from their own distributors. I wasn't sure
if I was asking for trade secrets when I asked him if there are
numerous suppliers or if all of his competitors get their fish from
the same place. His answer was same place. He said the biggies like
Petco have their own suppliers, several main distribution points set
up across the country, keeping their costs down by purchasing in mega
quantities and having them delivered to just a handful of distribution
centers. I enjoy picking my lfs' brain and trying to learn as much as
I can about the supply and distribution system; I'm interested in what
comes from where, Asian fish farms, Florida farms, and wild caught.
A reliable home breeder of any number of different species could pick
up some nice change linking up with a couple of mom and pop stores.

-- Mister Gardener


Every country has lots of wholesalers.
I mean **** I'm in backwards Oz and I buy from 4 freshwater wholesalers and
2 marine.
If theres a drought on bristlys you should definitely start breedint them.
Bloody easy dude, doesn't have to be pretty either.
Could make ya some good cash, they can go in almost any tank and sell better
than guppys even.

Yeah, I know. I'm keeping my eyes and ears open for them. A year ago,
heck, a few months ago, there were everywhere, now all I am seeing is
"common pl*co" in all the stores. Wherever I go from here is a long
drive, and I've given up on telephoning shops. "Aunt Sister Who?"
"Bushy what." "Female Pleco, you've got to be kidding, Mister."

You are from down under, eh? I've read that you guys have some pretty
strict laws about what comes into and goes out of your country. Is it
as tight as they say? (I'm speaking of fish coming in and going out.)

-- Mister Gardener

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On Thu, 20 Apr 2006 19:44:33 +1000, "swarvegorilla"
wrote:


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On 18 Apr 2006 13:57:23 -0700, "Adam"
wrote:

Regional differences must make a huge impact as well (speaking to Mr.
Gardner's comment on home breeders). After doing some reading on Zebra
Plecos, it seems one could make a killing if they could get a viable
breeding pair. I checked out a different lfs last night that had some
great cats (fish) and zebra (plecos) came up. He claimed that he could
get them well under the $100 per fry that they seem to be going for on
fish auction web sites. I have also seen bushy/bristle the last few
times I have been shopping here in New England.

We've discussed previously the increasing number of bushy noses that
are arriving with health problems. My lfs told me that his supplier
informed him he's not going to be getting any for a while, until he
starts seeing healthier fish coming through. This particular supplier
services all of the fish sellers in this region, so for now, they are
not available in Northern New England - except those that the big box
stores may be bringing in from their own distributors. I wasn't sure
if I was asking for trade secrets when I asked him if there are
numerous suppliers or if all of his competitors get their fish from
the same place. His answer was same place. He said the biggies like
Petco have their own suppliers, several main distribution points set
up across the country, keeping their costs down by purchasing in mega
quantities and having them delivered to just a handful of distribution
centers. I enjoy picking my lfs' brain and trying to learn as much as
I can about the supply and distribution system; I'm interested in what
comes from where, Asian fish farms, Florida farms, and wild caught.
A reliable home breeder of any number of different species could pick
up some nice change linking up with a couple of mom and pop stores.

-- Mister Gardener


Every country has lots of wholesalers.
I mean **** I'm in backwards Oz and I buy from 4 freshwater wholesalers
and
2 marine.
If theres a drought on bristlys you should definitely start breedint them.
Bloody easy dude, doesn't have to be pretty either.
Could make ya some good cash, they can go in almost any tank and sell
better
than guppys even.

Yeah, I know. I'm keeping my eyes and ears open for them. A year ago,
heck, a few months ago, there were everywhere, now all I am seeing is
"common pl*co" in all the stores. Wherever I go from here is a long
drive, and I've given up on telephoning shops. "Aunt Sister Who?"
"Bushy what." "Female Pleco, you've got to be kidding, Mister."

You are from down under, eh? I've read that you guys have some pretty
strict laws about what comes into and goes out of your country. Is it
as tight as they say? (I'm speaking of fish coming in and going out.)

-- Mister Gardener


Yea strict on many things but heck we have a fair amount of variety and as
long as people breed **** thats already here we should be right.
:-)
I mean we also have the great barrier reef to harvest so we get many marine
you guys would NEVER see. So evens out I recon.
:-)