Tropical To Marine

Yea, inother words Carol Gulley is telling you she does not know and
does not have any links to sal****er (marine forums, since its way to
much for her little simple milliterate in the gutter mind to
comprehend.....Ask your questions here, they will get
answered......might even be nbice to answer them without asshole Carol
aka Koi Lo getting involved...or better yet, go to web forums such as
reefcentral.com or creativereefing.com, or sal****erfish.com and get
answers from folks without assholes like Carol confusing the issues.

]
On Mon, 1 May 2006 12:52:18 -0500, "Koi-Lo"
wrote:
*Note: There are TWO "Koi-Lo's" on this NG*

"Gav" ""gavbriggs\"@[cut the spam]blueyonder.co.uk" wrote in message
.co.uk...
can i convert my tropical tank to marine?

if so, what do i need for the conversion and will my existing cannister
filter be ok for marine(with new media installed)
===================
There are marine NGs you can ask this on. They have some very knowledgeable
people who can better answer your questions regarding salt water aquarium
keeping.

Koi-Lo....
Frugal ponding since 1982.
Aquariums since 1956.
Some assholes Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
*Note: There are several *Koi-Lo's* on rec.ponds.
But, I am the one and only original Koi-Lo.
~~~ }((((o ~~~ }{{{{o ~~~ }(((((o

Roy wrote:
Yea, inother words Carol Gulley is telling you she does not know and
does not have any links to sal****er (marine forums, since its way to
much for her little simple milliterate in the gutter mind to
comprehend.....Ask your questions here, they will get
answered......might even be nbice to answer them without asshole Carol
aka Koi Lo getting involved...or better yet, go to web forums such as
reefcentral.com or creativereefing.com, or sal****erfish.com and get
answers from folks without assholes like Carol confusing the issues.

]
On Mon, 1 May 2006 12:52:18 -0500, "Koi-Lo"
wrote:

*Note: There are TWO "Koi-Lo's" on this NG*

"Gav" ""gavbriggs\"@[cut the spam]blueyonder.co.uk" wrote in message
r.co.uk...
can i convert my tropical tank to marine?

if so, what do i need for the conversion and will my existing cannister
filter be ok for marine(with new media installed)
===================
There are marine NGs you can ask this on. They have some very knowledgeable
people who can better answer your questions regarding salt water aquarium
keeping.


Koi-Lo....
Frugal ponding since 1982.
Aquariums since 1956.
Some assholes Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
*Note: There are several *Koi-Lo's* on rec.ponds.
But, I am the one and only original Koi-Lo.
~~~ }((((o ~~~ }{{{{o ~~~ }(((((o


There are some people on this newsgroup that also keep Marine, Roy being
one of the most notable that I know of. If you prefer usenet to forums
you might try out:-

rec.aquaria.marine
rec.aquaria.marine.misc
rec.aquaria.marine.reefs

I don't know how much traffic they get not having any interest in
keeping Marine fish myself....others will know better....

Gill

Yea, and flattery will get you no place Gill......especially with the
blackmail strongarm threats type tactics you are trying to
use.....Just not gonna work dude............Your emails really make
your true colors come out.........about on par with some of the crap
Carol Gulley posts....


On Mon, 01 May 2006 19:26:35 +0100, Gill Passman
wrote:
Roy wrote:
Yea, inother words Carol Gulley is telling you she does not know and
does not have any links to sal****er (marine forums, since its way to
much for her little simple milliterate in the gutter mind to
comprehend.....Ask your questions here, they will get
answered......might even be nbice to answer them without asshole Carol
aka Koi Lo getting involved...or better yet, go to web forums such as
reefcentral.com or creativereefing.com, or sal****erfish.com and get
answers from folks without assholes like Carol confusing the issues.

]
On Mon, 1 May 2006 12:52:18 -0500, "Koi-Lo"
wrote:

*Note: There are TWO "Koi-Lo's" on this NG*

"Gav" ""gavbriggs\"@[cut the spam]blueyonder.co.uk" wrote in message
onder.co.uk...
can i convert my tropical tank to marine?

if so, what do i need for the conversion and will my existing cannister
filter be ok for marine(with new media installed)
===================
There are marine NGs you can ask this on. They have some very knowledgeable
people who can better answer your questions regarding salt water aquarium
keeping.


Koi-Lo....
Frugal ponding since 1982.
Aquariums since 1956.
Some assholes Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
*Note: There are several *Koi-Lo's* on rec.ponds.
But, I am the one and only original Koi-Lo.
~~~ }((((o ~~~ }{{{{o ~~~ }(((((o


There are some people on this newsgroup that also keep Marine, Roy being
one of the most notable that I know of. If you prefer usenet to forums
you might try out:-

rec.aquaria.marine
rec.aquaria.marine.misc
rec.aquaria.marine.reefs

I don't know how much traffic they get not having any interest in
keeping Marine fish myself....others will know better....

Gill

Koi-Lo....
Frugal ponding since 1982.
Aquariums since 1956.
Some assholes Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
*Note: There are several *Koi-Lo's* on rec.ponds.
But, I am the one and only original Koi-Lo.
~~~ }((((o ~~~ }{{{{o ~~~ }(((((o

Koi-Lo wrote:
Yea, and flattery will get you no place Gill......especially with the
blackmail strongarm threats type tactics you are trying to
use.....Just not gonna work dude............Your emails really make
your true colors come out.........about on par with some of the crap
Carol Gulley posts....

Hmmm....but I don't post them.....do you even know what my true colours
are?????

Please, hit the reply to button and take this off of the newsgroup....

It is not about flattery, it is about reality and how much you know
about stuff....far more than I do....so bite me for saying it.....

Gill

I have a much better idea Gill........make a kill file with my name in
it.....use my earthlink so yoiu do not slight Carol and filter her
out.......then you can filter just like the Canuck
Derek.......afterall birds of a feather flock together....Even make a
filter for Roy....then just forget I exist, and if everyone else does
just this same thing, no one should ever get wrapped up in my posts to
beigin with unless they have a desire to.........Sure I may reply to a
post someone makes, but yur filters as such will keep my points of
view out of your eyesight and never ending compulsion to reply to ****
you should never have gotten involved in anyhow..And when yu start or
other start paying my ISP bill then I may give you consideration in
doing what you request.......until then, Don;t waste your time telling
me what I can or can't do........and requests are not honored either.


On Mon, 01 May 2006 21:42:10 +0100, Gill Passman
wrote:
Koi-Lo wrote:
Yea, and flattery will get you no place Gill......especially with the
blackmail strongarm threats type tactics you are trying to
use.....Just not gonna work dude............Your emails really make
your true colors come out.........about on par with some of the crap
Carol Gulley posts....

Hmmm....but I don't post them.....do you even know what my true colours
are?????

Please, hit the reply to button and take this off of the newsgroup....

It is not about flattery, it is about reality and how much you know
about stuff....far more than I do....so bite me for saying it.....

Gill

Koi-Lo....
Frugal ponding since 1982.
Aquariums since 1956.
Some assholes Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
*Note: There are several *Koi-Lo's* on rec.ponds.
But, I am the one and only original Koi-Lo.
~~~ }((((o ~~~ }{{{{o ~~~ }(((((o

Roy wrote:
I have a much better idea Gill........make a kill file with my name in
it.....use my earthlink so yoiu do not slight Carol and filter her
out.......then you can filter just like the Canuck
Derek.......afterall birds of a feather flock together....Even make a
filter for Roy....then just forget I exist, and if everyone else does
just this same thing, no one should ever get wrapped up in my posts to
beigin with unless they have a desire to.........Sure I may reply to a
post someone makes, but yur filters as such will keep my points of
view out of your eyesight and never ending compulsion to reply to ****
you should never have gotten involved in anyhow..And when yu start or
other start paying my ISP bill then I may give you consideration in
doing what you request.......until then, Don;t waste your time telling
me what I can or can't do........and requests are not honored either.



Now I have some issues with me doing this...forgive me....

1. When you post on-topic the information that you give is invaluable
and I've learnt a lot from this

2. Derek is OK - why go for him?

3. Your posts will put off any newbies who don't know that they need to
filter...

4. If Carol did what you think she did why is she so desperate for me to
share my research???? (haven't and won't)

5. If I kill-file you how do I know what you are doing to destroy the
groups???

6. How much is your ISP bill???? I'm sure a lot of us would chip in

As I said, mail me....what are you scared of that you won't do that????
Maybe you are scared that you might actually like me???? You have my
email account yet still want to thrash this out on the groups....what's
your agenda - to kill them off???? I believe most people on this
newsgroup would love this debate taken off-line....

Gill

"Gill Passman" wrote in message
...
Roy wrote:
I have a much better idea Gill........make a kill file with my name in
it.....use my earthlink so yoiu do not slight Carol and filter her
out.......then you can filter just like the Canuck
Derek.......afterall birds of a feather flock together....Even make a
filter for Roy....then just forget I exist, and if everyone else does
just this same thing, no one should ever get wrapped up in my posts to
beigin with unless they have a desire to.........Sure I may reply to a
post someone makes, but yur filters as such will keep my points of
view out of your eyesight and never ending compulsion to reply to ****
you should never have gotten involved in anyhow..And when yu start or
other start paying my ISP bill then I may give you consideration in
doing what you request.......until then, Don;t waste your time telling
me what I can or can't do........and requests are not honored either.
=========
Now I have some issues with me doing this...forgive me....

1. When you post on-topic the information that you give is invaluable and
I've learnt a lot from this

I'm going to interject here. Who wants to dig trough the septic tank so
many of his messages are to find one penny he may drop into the filth he
deposits here on everyone?

2. Derek is OK - why go for him?

You have to ask him Gill? It's because Roy can't tolerate anyone he feels
isn't on his side in crucifying me.

3. Your posts will put off any newbies who don't know that they need to
filter...

Stop and think Gill - he uses *MY NYM* when posting his toxic waste - and
his own otherwise. This is a vicious troll trick to get their victim
killfiled and get them a bad name. Now he's nym-shifting to avoid
killfiles, just look at his headers.

4. If Carol did what you think she did why is she so desperate for me to
share my research???? (haven't and won't)

That was his BS excuse to crucify me, harass me and now net-stalk me
Gill,... THINK!!!! You wont win his favor with complimenting him, or
telling him you wont share the information with me, even though you know
he's out to destroy me and my family for no other reason than that he's
vicious and mentally ill. And now *this comment of yours* is making me
wonder..... you seem to be using it to try and win his favor.

5. If I kill-file you how do I know what you are doing to destroy the
groups???

Gill.... wise up,... he's out to destroy these groups using *ME* and his
imaginary wildlife agents and pulled website as the excuse. If his website
was pulled it was because he had something illegal on the site. No ISP
pulls a website because someone calls them and asks them to pull it. This
is just like Antonio using his daughter as his excuse. If it's not the
daughter it's something else. Please, spend a few minutes reading some
troll sites and learn why and how they accomplish their goals. You're not
going to get anywhere with him.

6. How much is your ISP bill???? I'm sure a lot of us would chip in

As I said, mail me....what are you scared of that you won't do that????
Maybe you are scared that you might actually like me???? You have my email
account yet still want to thrash this out on the groups....what's your
agenda - to kill them off????

YES! That's his agenda. Even a blind person could see it. Maybe it's
needs to be thrashed out here instead of all the cloak and dagger by e-mail.
You keep telling me to keep silent, not defend myself, not say anything,
ignore him, be harassed and attacked along with the NGs and suffer in
silence. I'm tired of it Gill. It's not getting any of us anywhere.
Handling this sick individual with kid gloves and patronizing him is a waste
of time. There's no way to get rid of him so what's the solution? He knows
damn well I had nothing to do with his legal problems since I don't even
know who he is, the miserable liar.

I believe most people on this
newsgroup would love this debate taken off-line....

That's not possible because *HE* wants it here... it's FUN for him, it's
exciting as he's already admitted on rec.ponds. Must I pull his old message
and post it here? There's no way he'll take this "fun and excitement"
off-line. What an empty, miserable, lonely life he must have..........

--
Koi-Lo....
Frugal ponding since 1995.
Aquariums since 1952.
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
~~~ }((((o ~~~ }{{{{o ~~~ }(((((o

Gill Passman wrote:
Koi-Lo wrote:
Yea, and flattery will get you no place Gill......especially with the
blackmail strongarm threats type tactics you are trying to
use.....Just not gonna work dude............Your emails really make
your true colors come out.........about on par with some of the crap
Carol Gulley posts....

Hmmm....but I don't post them.....do you even know what my true colours
are?????

Please, hit the reply to button and take this off of the newsgroup....

It is not about flattery, it is about reality and how much you know
about stuff....far more than I do....so bite me for saying it.....

Gill
people, can we please get to my thread. i know how it is with views and
territory in usenet but c'mon i need the help here! i really want to
enter the world of marine , i am reading up as i type, but i am waiting
for real people to give real live advice!

Gav wrote:

people, can we please get to my thread. i know how it is with views and
territory in usenet but c'mon i need the help here! i really want to
enter the world of marine , i am reading up as i type, but i am waiting
for real people to give real live advice!

Roy can give you good advice....the newsgroups I posted also will also
do so as will the web based forums that Roy suggested....I know of noone
else on the freshwater groups than give you better advice than Roy
although I may be doing one or two down by saying this, but I say Roy
because he is the only one that has the real experience to my
knowledge....this is a freshwater group rather than marine...but we will
help you the best that we can....

Gill

Gav wrote:

people, can we please get to my thread. i know how it is with views and
territory in usenet but c'mon i need the help here! i really want to
enter the world of marine , i am reading up as i type, but i am waiting
for real people to give real live advice!

You're asking for marine advice in a group full of freshwater aquarists.
Try rec.aquaria.marine.reefs. It's an active newsgroup specific to
marine aquaria.

IMO, canister filters are only suitable for fish-only marine setups, and
only with some additional biofiltration like a bio-wheel. Canisters are
hard to clean and tend to become nitrate factories so adding an easily
accessible prefilter is helpful.

If you want to keep inverts, remove all the biomedia and use the
canister for water movement and/or chemical filtration.

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