Frogs in ponds

I have seen several folks talk about "relocating" frogs. That wouldn't
seem to be a viable alternative in my case. Any frogs in my pond are long
gone by the time I get there. As I get within about 30 feet of the pond
frogs that are present squeak with alarm and jump into the water. All I
see are the rings in the water from where they have jumped in. I have a
chair out there about 20 feet from the water's edge. It used to be a lot
closer to the water, but it has been rather dry here, and the water isn't
even close to where it used to be. If I sit in the chair and remain still
for about 20 min or so, the frogs start to surface and return to shore, but
they are awful skittish. I've sat and watched six times now as snakes
(black racers) come down to the pond to drink and to feed. I think there
are four different snakes, but I'm not absolutely sure, all snakes of a
species tend to look pretty much alike to me, and I have only seen two at
the same time. Anyway, they haven't eaten everything in the pond, not by a
long shot. They are incredibly fast and sneaky, and get a frog every now
and then, but the frogs are also fast and extremely wary, and get away much
more often than not. It's almost enough to make you pity the snake.

As far as daylilies go, I have some that I planted near the end of January.
The water came up in February, and the darn things sprouted and even had
tadpoles sitting on their leaves underwater. It hasn't rained much since
then, and now the daylilies are far from the water. They haven't bloomed
yet, but they seem to be growing as well as the ones that weren't
submerged.

Galen Hekhuis NpD, JFR, GWA
Hell hath no fury like a bird in the hand.

Galen Hekhuis wrote:

They [snakes] are incredibly fast and sneaky, and get a frog every now
and then, but the frogs are also fast and extremely wary, and get away
much
more often than not. It's almost enough to make you pity the snake.

Indeed. I once watched a large bullfrog fight a mud snake. The frog sat on
a rock, and the snake circled him in the water for at least 15 minutes.
Either one could probably have eaten the other - though whether the snake
could have made it to shore with that bullfrog inside, is doubtful! The
snake would make periodic lunges, but the frog always seemed to know when
he would try, and the snake wasn't having any success. The garter snakes
around home probably have a much simpler time with the toads - a frog in or
near water is much more agile than on dry land.

Galen Hekhuis NpD, JFR, GWA
Hell hath no fury like a bird in the hand.

LOL! I have a colleague who's an avid birder and runs a banding station in
Nova Scotia - while he knows how to handle them, he has great stories about
new banders and their injuries :-)
--
derek

Right now I have a container of 11 tree frogs to relocate 3 miles from
my house. I *HATE* tree frogs - they are extremely loud and obnoxious.
Fortunately they are fairly easy to catch but they only come out at
night. I have a headstrapped flashlight and a handheld flashlight.
When I hear them squawking I go out and find them. Usually when found
you can just snatch them up fairly easily especially if you keep a
light pointed at their eyes. As punishment I take them to my screened
in porch and let my cats play with them until I put them into their
container. The cats don't hurt them, and it gives me a bit of
satisfaction.

The only thing my pond attracts that sounds worse than a tree frog is
toads, but I've only had 1 night of toads in the pond. They are slow
and extremely easy to catch.

On 29 May 2006 13:06:33 -0700, "scs0" wrote:

Right now I have a container of 11 tree frogs to relocate 3 miles from
my house. I *HATE* tree frogs - they are extremely loud and obnoxious.

I'm not saying nothin'. ~ jan

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(Do you know where your water quality is?)

In , on 05/29/06
at 04:47 PM, ~ janj said:

Right now I have a container of 11 tree frogs to relocate 3 miles from
my house. I *HATE* tree frogs - they are extremely loud and obnoxious.

I'm not saying nothin'. ~ jan

And here I sit wanting toads, tree frogs, and green frogs, and I get nada.
Seven springs now. Unfair!

Alan

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In , on 05/29/06
at 04:47 PM, ~ janj said:

Right now I have a container of 11 tree frogs to relocate 3 miles from
my house. I *HATE* tree frogs - they are extremely loud and obnoxious.

I'm not saying nothin'. ~ jan

And here I sit wanting toads, tree frogs, and green frogs, and I get nada.
Seven springs now. Unfair!

Alan
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You must either live in the city or the desert somewhere. If you lived near
middle TN I can give you all the frogs, toads and water snakes you would
ever desire.
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Right now I have a container of 11 tree frogs to relocate 3 miles from
my house. I *HATE* tree frogs - they are extremely loud and obnoxious.

I'm not saying nothin'. ~ jan

And here I sit wanting toads, tree frogs, and green frogs, and I get nada.
Seven springs now. Unfair!
Alan

And I can't understand why any one would be upset with the music of randy
frogs.... the problem as I see it is, people get bothered by 1 or 2,
because they sound like kids jumping on old-style bed springs. If they'd
let the numbers build up it becomes white noise.

Too bad original poster doesn't live next to my neighbors who also hate
frogs, so I have to go out and catch my tree frogs once the numbers go
above 2.

If they were smart they'd put in their own pond, that way they couldn't
hear my frogs over their own. hehehe. ;o) ~ jan

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(Do you know where your water quality is?)

scs0 wrote:

The only thing my pond attracts that sounds worse than a tree frog is
toads, but I've only had 1 night of toads in the pond.

Worse? The eastern (Gray?) Tree Frogs that I used to get were far worse
than toads. A toad can only trill for about 10-15 seconds (though they
don't take much of a breath before the next round!) but the tree frogs go
much longer _and_ louder. Still I love the sound. Right now, the Spring
Peepers (and an occasional toad) are deafening around my house.
--
derek

Yea, and I would turn your ****ing sorry ass in for selling or
harrassing natural fauna...you ****ing dumbassed bitch.

On Mon, 29 May 2006 21:19:33 -0500, "Koi-Lo" none wrote:
*Note: There are two *Koi-Lo's* on the pond and aquaria groups.

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In , on 05/29/06
at 04:47 PM, ~ janj said:

Right now I have a container of 11 tree frogs to relocate 3 miles from
my house. I *HATE* tree frogs - they are extremely loud and obnoxious.

I'm not saying nothin'. ~ jan

And here I sit wanting toads, tree frogs, and green frogs, and I get nada.
Seven springs now. Unfair!

Alan
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You must either live in the city or the desert somewhere. If you lived near
middle TN I can give you all the frogs, toads and water snakes you would
ever desire.

Stomp the **** out of them, its neat how they pop and splatter over
the ground or concrete....
On 29 May 2006 13:06:33 -0700, "scs0" wrote:

Right now I have a container of 11 tree frogs to relocate 3 miles from
my house. I *HATE* tree frogs - they are extremely loud and obnoxious.

I'm not saying nothin'. ~ jan