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Old June 2nd 06, 07:24 PM posted to rec.aquaria.freshwater.misc
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What has science come up with today that allows tropical fish to exceed
their normal size?
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Old June 2nd 06, 09:27 PM posted to rec.aquaria.freshwater.misc
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On Fri, 02 Jun 2006 18:24:04 GMT, -ED wrote:

What has science come up with today that allows tropical fish to exceed
their normal size?


What brought that question up?

I have been so pleased that the predictions about giant Clown Loaches
and Siamese Algae Eaters is so out of proportion. I believe human
heights are increasing along with their weight, but this seems to be a
matter of diet, eh?

Still, what brought the question to mind?

Just curious.

dick
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Old June 2nd 06, 10:22 PM posted to rec.aquaria.freshwater.misc
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On Fri, 02 Jun 2006 15:27:11 -0500, Dick wrote:

On Fri, 02 Jun 2006 18:24:04 GMT, -ED wrote:

What has science come up with today that allows tropical fish to exceed
their normal size?


What brought that question up?

I have been so pleased that the predictions about giant Clown Loaches
and Siamese Algae Eaters is so out of proportion. I believe human
heights are increasing along with their weight, but this seems to be a
matter of diet, eh?

Still, what brought the question to mind?

Just curious.

dick

Damn Late Nite commercials selling fitness products. They want me to lift
the front end of a truck when I'm 50 years of age. F___That S___!
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Old June 2nd 06, 11:42 PM posted to rec.aquaria.freshwater.misc
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Dick wrote in
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I have been so pleased that the predictions about giant Clown Loaches
and Siamese Algae Eaters is so out of proportion. I believe human


Clown loaches grow large enough in their natural wild habitat to be
considered and exploited as a food fish.

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Old June 3rd 06, 12:43 AM posted to rec.aquaria.freshwater.misc
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On Fri, 02 Jun 2006 21:22:05 GMT, -ED wrote:

On Fri, 02 Jun 2006 15:27:11 -0500, Dick wrote:

On Fri, 02 Jun 2006 18:24:04 GMT, -ED wrote:

What has science come up with today that allows tropical fish to exceed
their normal size?


What brought that question up?

I have been so pleased that the predictions about giant Clown Loaches
and Siamese Algae Eaters is so out of proportion. I believe human
heights are increasing along with their weight, but this seems to be a
matter of diet, eh?

Still, what brought the question to mind?

Just curious.

dick

Damn Late Nite commercials selling fitness products. They want me to lift
the front end of a truck when I'm 50 years of age. F___That S___!



Go to bed earlier!

dick
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Old June 3rd 06, 12:44 AM posted to rec.aquaria.freshwater.misc
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On Fri, 02 Jun 2006 17:42:46 -0500, dc wrote:

Dick wrote in
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I have been so pleased that the predictions about giant Clown Loaches
and Siamese Algae Eaters is so out of proportion. I believe human


Clown loaches grow large enough in their natural wild habitat to be
considered and exploited as a food fish.



I figure the Siamese Algae Eaters look more appetizing.

dick
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Old June 3rd 06, 02:27 AM posted to rec.aquaria.freshwater.misc
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On Fri, 02 Jun 2006 17:42:46 -0500, dc wrote:

Dick wrote in
:

I have been so pleased that the predictions about giant Clown Loaches
and Siamese Algae Eaters is so out of proportion. I believe human


Clown loaches grow large enough in their natural wild habitat to be
considered and exploited as a food fish.


Genetics defies such statements. Size responds to environment. If
large helps survival, then the genes of reproduction reproduce the
successful size.

Personally, I believe in Intelligent Design, thus any change is an
experiment even if a joke!

dick

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Old June 3rd 06, 04:07 AM posted to rec.aquaria.freshwater.misc
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"-ED" wrote in message
news What has science come up with today that allows tropical fish to exceed
their normal size?


Don't know what you're looking for but I can tell you about Guppies. They
started using steroids in the 60's to produce bigger, flashier, faster
growing, and more colorful fish. At some point I stopped seeing those fish
when the Asian market flooded the stores with nice and cheap product. The
problem was that they were treating these fish with anti-biotics to avoid
losing stock before shipping. When you got them home they often died within
a week. Todays guppy strains are so weak it's alarming. Go into your LFS and
look at the guppy tanks early in the morning before they clean them out and
you'll see as many as 1/2 floating. When I was breeding guppies, they were
so hardy, you had to constantly cull them, or you were overcrowed in a
matter of months. Now you're hard pressed to keep them alive at all. Is it
because of the steroids, or the anti-biotics? I don't know.


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Old June 3rd 06, 04:26 AM posted to rec.aquaria.freshwater.misc
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On Fri, 02 Jun 2006 22:07:41 -0500, Glassman wrote:


"-ED" wrote in message
news What has science come up with today that allows tropical fish to exceed
their normal size?


Don't know what you're looking for but I can tell you about Guppies.
They
started using steroids in the 60's to produce bigger, flashier, faster
growing, and more colorful fish. At some point I stopped seeing those
fish
when the Asian market flooded the stores with nice and cheap product. The
problem was that they were treating these fish with anti-biotics to avoid
losing stock before shipping. When you got them home they often died
within
a week. Todays guppy strains are so weak it's alarming. Go into your LFS
and
look at the guppy tanks early in the morning before they clean them out
and
you'll see as many as 1/2 floating. When I was breeding guppies, they
were
so hardy, you had to constantly cull them, or you were overcrowed in a
matter of months. Now you're hard pressed to keep them alive at all. Is
it
because of the steroids, or the anti-biotics? I don't know.


Another shining example of capitalism. I didn't know the research went
that far back (the exposure and morphing for market', that is).
That's a shame.
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Old June 3rd 06, 06:47 AM posted to rec.aquaria.freshwater.misc
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Dick wrote:
Genetics defies such statements. Size responds to environment. If


Bull****. At least on the short term. Over hundreds of thousands of
years, perhaps.

large helps survival, then the genes of reproduction reproduce the
successful size.


It's called Natural Selection.

Personally, I believe in Intelligent Design, thus any change is an
experiment even if a joke!


Then Sir, you are a moron.

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