New to ponds

On Tue, 06 Jun 2006 02:16:50 GMT, "Steve" wrote:

Well I have been reading for a few weeks and finally decided to do a pond.
I will probably just put a few small goldfish in it nothing big. It will be
a preformed one from HD 165 gallons and 18" deep. I will bring in the
goldfish in the winter to an aquarium ( i have 4 of them).

My questions is : I will be getting a pump and filter combo (Beckett Small
Pond Filter Kit Model 7040210). Will I be able to run a waterfall that is 2
ft high and about 3 feet away from where the pump will be located? I
noticed that it has a valve for other water features on it so that is what I
was going to hook up to it. I will use the fountain attachement also.

Thanks in advance. It is all confusing to me. I am jsut not wanting to
spend money on two pumps if not needed.

Thanks
steve

What's the gph on the pump? ~ jan
--------------
See my ponds and filter design:
www.jjspond.us

~Keep 'em Wet!~
Tri-Cities WA Zone 7a
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On Mon, 05 Jun 2006 20:19:52 -0700, ~ janj
wrote:
On Tue, 06 Jun 2006 02:16:50 GMT, "Steve" wrote:

Well I have been reading for a few weeks and finally decided to do a pond.
I will probably just put a few small goldfish in it nothing big. It will be
a preformed one from HD 165 gallons and 18" deep. I will bring in the
goldfish in the winter to an aquarium ( i have 4 of them).

My questions is : I will be getting a pump and filter combo (Beckett Small
Pond Filter Kit Model 7040210). Will I be able to run a waterfall that is 2
ft high and about 3 feet away from where the pump will be located? I
noticed that it has a valve for other water features on it so that is what I
was going to hook up to it. I will use the fountain attachement also.

Thanks in advance. It is all confusing to me. I am jsut not wanting to
spend money on two pumps if not needed.

Thanks
steve

What's the gph on the pump? ~ jan
--------------
See my ponds and filter design:
www.jjspond.us

~Keep 'em Wet!~
Tri-Cities WA Zone 7a
To e-mail see website

Probably the best compbination for that size and setup would be a
Cyprio Bio Force 1000, hooked up to a Cyprio Titan 800 submersible
pump. It wil have sufficient flow to provide decent flow out and down
a water fall. The filter has the capability to filter out algae, its
a pressure type, and has a solids settlement section as well. It is an
external type filter and can be placed in the ground and only the top
portion of it exposed, which is easy to conceal. It is easy to clean
and service. The Tital pump has an adjustable inlet grid screen so you
can lcos eit down to as small as 2mm to keep fry etc from entering the
pump. If yuor in a tropical or sub tropical zone 8 and I owul
dconsider the 1000 as your gonna need more capacity than those living
up in the cooler regions.

Filter can alsl have a UV added to it, but UV is a continual waste of
money with bulb replacement annually, so their overall cost never goes
down and continues to be a yearly requirement../

Pump about $80-90 and filter about $70 plus 1" or 3/4" hose / tube.
and it would put you in business with a more than adequate filtration
system.

On Tue, 06 Jun 2006 12:43:25 GMT, lid (Koi-Lo)
wrote:
On Mon, 05 Jun 2006 20:19:52 -0700, ~ janj
wrote:
On Tue, 06 Jun 2006 02:16:50 GMT, "Steve" wrote:

Well I have been reading for a few weeks and finally decided to do a pond.
I will probably just put a few small goldfish in it nothing big. It will be
a preformed one from HD 165 gallons and 18" deep. I will bring in the
goldfish in the winter to an aquarium ( i have 4 of them).

My questions is : I will be getting a pump and filter combo (Beckett Small
Pond Filter Kit Model 7040210). Will I be able to run a waterfall that is 2
ft high and about 3 feet away from where the pump will be located? I
noticed that it has a valve for other water features on it so that is what I
was going to hook up to it. I will use the fountain attachement also.

Thanks in advance. It is all confusing to me. I am jsut not wanting to
spend money on two pumps if not needed.

Thanks
steve

What's the gph on the pump? ~ jan
--------------
See my ponds and filter design:
www.jjspond.us

~Keep 'em Wet!~
Tri-Cities WA Zone 7a
To e-mail see website

In article , ~Roy
wrote:

Probably the best compbination for that size and setup would be a
Cyprio Bio Force 1000, hooked up to a Cyprio Titan 800 submersible
pump. It wil have sufficient flow to provide decent flow out and down
a water fall. The filter has the capability to filter out algae, its
a pressure type, and has a solids settlement section as well. It is an
external type filter and can be placed in the ground and only the top
portion of it exposed, which is easy to conceal. It is easy to clean
and service. The Tital pump has an adjustable inlet grid screen so you
can lcos eit down to as small as 2mm to keep fry etc from entering the
pump. If yuor in a tropical or sub tropical zone 8 and I owul
dconsider the 1000 as your gonna need more capacity than those living
up in the cooler regions.

Filter can alsl have a UV added to it, but UV is a continual waste of
money with bulb replacement annually,

Getting rid of suspended algae is not a waste of money.

jay
Tue Jun 06, 2006






so their overall cost never goes
down and continues to be a yearly requirement../

Pump about $80-90 and filter about $70 plus 1" or 3/4" hose / tube.
and it would put you in business with a more than adequate filtration
system.

On Tue, 06 Jun 2006 12:43:25 GMT, lid (Koi-Lo)
wrote:
On Mon, 05 Jun 2006 20:19:52 -0700, ~ janj
wrote:
On Tue, 06 Jun 2006 02:16:50 GMT, "Steve" wrote:

Well I have been reading for a few weeks and finally decided to do a
pond.
I will probably just put a few small goldfish in it nothing big. It
will be
a preformed one from HD 165 gallons and 18" deep. I will bring in
the
goldfish in the winter to an aquarium ( i have 4 of them).

My questions is : I will be getting a pump and filter combo
(Beckett Small
Pond Filter Kit Model 7040210). Will I be able to run a waterfall
that is 2
ft high and about 3 feet away from where the pump will be located?
I
noticed that it has a valve for other water features on it so that
is what I
was going to hook up to it. I will use the fountain attachement
also.

Thanks in advance. It is all confusing to me. I am jsut not
wanting to
spend money on two pumps if not needed.

Thanks
steve

What's the gph on the pump? ~ jan
--------------
See my ponds and filter design:
www.jjspond.us

~Keep 'em Wet!~
Tri-Cities WA Zone 7a
To e-mail see website

Yea, but thata cyprio Bio Force filter will remove it without the need
of a UV..A UV is fine if you do not mind replacing the bulb every year
though.....The wifes preform pond which she keeps a large
assoprtment of tropical fish in is also a 165 gal from HD uses the
Cyprio bio force and Titan 800 pump, Were located in a hot region,
with pond in full sunlight. Its suspeneded algae free.....all without
a UV.


..On Tue, 06 Jun 2006 08:57:31 -0700, Go Fig wrote:
In article , ~Roy
wrote:

Probably the best compbination for that size and setup would be a
Cyprio Bio Force 1000, hooked up to a Cyprio Titan 800 submersible
pump. It wil have sufficient flow to provide decent flow out and down
a water fall. The filter has the capability to filter out algae, its
a pressure type, and has a solids settlement section as well. It is an
external type filter and can be placed in the ground and only the top
portion of it exposed, which is easy to conceal. It is easy to clean
and service. The Tital pump has an adjustable inlet grid screen so you
can lcos eit down to as small as 2mm to keep fry etc from entering the
pump. If yuor in a tropical or sub tropical zone 8 and I owul
dconsider the 1000 as your gonna need more capacity than those living
up in the cooler regions.

Filter can alsl have a UV added to it, but UV is a continual waste of
money with bulb replacement annually,

Getting rid of suspended algae is not a waste of money.

jay
Tue Jun 06, 2006






so their overall cost never goes
down and continues to be a yearly requirement../

Pump about $80-90 and filter about $70 plus 1" or 3/4" hose / tube.
and it would put you in business with a more than adequate filtration
system.

On Tue, 06 Jun 2006 12:43:25 GMT, lid (Koi-Lo)
wrote:
On Mon, 05 Jun 2006 20:19:52 -0700, ~ janj
wrote:
On Tue, 06 Jun 2006 02:16:50 GMT, "Steve" wrote:

Well I have been reading for a few weeks and finally decided to do a
pond.
I will probably just put a few small goldfish in it nothing big. It
will be
a preformed one from HD 165 gallons and 18" deep. I will bring in
the
goldfish in the winter to an aquarium ( i have 4 of them).

My questions is : I will be getting a pump and filter combo
(Beckett Small
Pond Filter Kit Model 7040210). Will I be able to run a waterfall
that is 2
ft high and about 3 feet away from where the pump will be located?
I
noticed that it has a valve for other water features on it so that
is what I
was going to hook up to it. I will use the fountain attachement
also.

Thanks in advance. It is all confusing to me. I am jsut not
wanting to
spend money on two pumps if not needed.

Thanks
steve

What's the gph on the pump? ~ jan
--------------
See my ponds and filter design:
www.jjspond.us

~Keep 'em Wet!~
Tri-Cities WA Zone 7a
To e-mail see website

"Koi-Lo" aka ROY wrote in message
...

Save your momneyb and get a decent filter such as a POndmaster kit or
BIo force. ALgae is a big problem in smaller ponds as such and a
filter capable of picking it o=up is needed, and those filter kits
sold in big box stores are not the ticket. They are minimum by any
means in terms of even filtration no matter what the box label
says.......especially a beckett.
Get a Danner MAg Drive Pondmaster. A Mag7 ot 9 will do it, no need to
go to 2 on such a small preform, unless yu go to a 12 and use it as a
sole pump, but its still may overkill in a 165 gal preform. With 18
inches of depth, and twop feet high water fall, your ball park to a
lift of 3 1/2 feet already and its gonna cut down on pump performance
big time with that becket or anyt other smaller pump even if its just
used for water fall alone.

On Tue, 06 Jun 2006 02:16:50 GMT, "Steve" wrote:
Well I have been reading for a few weeks and finally decided to do a
pond.
I will probably just put a few small goldfish in it nothing big. It
will be
a preformed one from HD 165 gallons and 18" deep. I will bring in the
goldfish in the winter to an aquarium ( i have 4 of them).

My questions is : I will be getting a pump and filter combo (Beckett
Small
Pond Filter Kit Model 7040210). Will I be able to run a waterfall
that is 2
ft high and about 3 feet away from where the pump will be located? I
noticed that it has a valve for other water features on it so that is
what I
was going to hook up to it. I will use the fountain attachement also.

Thanks in advance. It is all confusing to me. I am jsut not wanting
to
spend money on two pumps if not needed.

Thanks
steve




"~Roy" wrote in message
...


Yea, but thata cyprio Bio Force filter will remove it without the need
of a UV..A UV is fine if you do not mind replacing the bulb every year
though.....The wifes preform pond which she keeps a large
assoprtment of tropical fish in is also a 165 gal from HD uses the
Cyprio bio force and Titan 800 pump, Were located in a hot region,
with pond in full sunlight. Its suspeneded algae free.....all without
a UV.


.On Tue, 06 Jun 2006 08:57:31 -0700, Go Fig wrote:
In article , ~Roy
wrote:

Probably the best compbination for that size and setup would be a
Cyprio Bio Force 1000, hooked up to a Cyprio Titan 800 submersible
pump. It wil have sufficient flow to provide decent flow out and
down
a water fall. The filter has the capability to filter out algae,
its
a pressure type, and has a solids settlement section as well. It is
an
external type filter and can be placed in the ground and only the
top
portion of it exposed, which is easy to conceal. It is easy to clean
and service. The Tital pump has an adjustable inlet grid screen so
you
can lcos eit down to as small as 2mm to keep fry etc from entering
the
pump. If yuor in a tropical or sub tropical zone 8 and I owul
dconsider the 1000 as your gonna need more capacity than those
living
up in the cooler regions.

Filter can alsl have a UV added to it, but UV is a continual waste
of
money with bulb replacement annually,

Getting rid of suspended algae is not a waste of money.

jay
Tue Jun 06, 2006






so their overall cost never goes
down and continues to be a yearly requirement../

Pump about $80-90 and filter about $70 plus 1" or 3/4" hose / tube.
and it would put you in business with a more than adequate
filtration
system.

On Tue, 06 Jun 2006 12:43:25 GMT, lid (Koi-Lo)
wrote:
On Mon, 05 Jun 2006 20:19:52 -0700, ~ janj

wrote:
On Tue, 06 Jun 2006 02:16:50 GMT, "Steve"
wrote:

Well I have been reading for a few weeks and finally
decided to do a
pond.
I will probably just put a few small goldfish in it nothing
big. It
will be
a preformed one from HD 165 gallons and 18" deep. I will
bring in
the
goldfish in the winter to an aquarium ( i have 4 of them).

My questions is : I will be getting a pump and filter
combo
(Beckett Small
Pond Filter Kit Model 7040210). Will I be able to run a
waterfall
that is 2
ft high and about 3 feet away from where the pump will be
located?
I
noticed that it has a valve for other water features on it
so that
is what I
was going to hook up to it. I will use the fountain
attachement
also.

Thanks in advance. It is all confusing to me. I am jsut
not
wanting to
spend money on two pumps if not needed.

Thanks
steve

What's the gph on the pump? ~ jan
--------------
See my ponds and filter design:
www.jjspond.us

~Keep 'em Wet!~
Tri-Cities WA Zone 7a
To e-mail see website

"Koi-Lo" aka ROY wrote in message
...
On Mon, 05 Jun 2006 20:19:52 -0700, ~ janj
wrote:
On Tue, 06 Jun 2006 02:16:50 GMT, "Steve" wrote:

Well I have been reading for a few weeks and finally decided to do a
pond.
I will probably just put a few small goldfish in it nothing big. It
will be
a preformed one from HD 165 gallons and 18" deep. I will bring in
the
goldfish in the winter to an aquarium ( i have 4 of them).

My questions is : I will be getting a pump and filter combo (Beckett
Small
Pond Filter Kit Model 7040210). Will I be able to run a waterfall
that is 2
ft high and about 3 feet away from where the pump will be located? I
noticed that it has a valve for other water features on it so that is
what I
was going to hook up to it. I will use the fountain attachement
also.

Thanks in advance. It is all confusing to me. I am jsut not wanting
to
spend money on two pumps if not needed.

Thanks
steve

What's the gph on the pump? ~ jan
--------------
See my ponds and filter design:
www.jjspond.us

~Keep 'em Wet!~
Tri-Cities WA Zone 7a
To e-mail see website

350 gph

"~ janj" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 06 Jun 2006 02:16:50 GMT, "Steve" wrote:

Well I have been reading for a few weeks and finally decided to do a pond.
I will probably just put a few small goldfish in it nothing big. It will
be
a preformed one from HD 165 gallons and 18" deep. I will bring in the
goldfish in the winter to an aquarium ( i have 4 of them).

My questions is : I will be getting a pump and filter combo (Beckett
Small
Pond Filter Kit Model 7040210). Will I be able to run a waterfall that is
2
ft high and about 3 feet away from where the pump will be located? I
noticed that it has a valve for other water features on it so that is what
I
was going to hook up to it. I will use the fountain attachement also.

Thanks in advance. It is all confusing to me. I am jsut not wanting to
spend money on two pumps if not needed.

Thanks
steve

What's the gph on the pump? ~ jan
--------------
See my ponds and filter design:
www.jjspond.us

~Keep 'em Wet!~
Tri-Cities WA Zone 7a
To e-mail see website