Eco Aqualizer or Skimmer?

I was looking around for info on the diffurent Protien Skimmers and was
wondering if this was a decent product or was just a bogus "lets sell the
customer anything" ordeal http://www.ecoaqualizer.com/products.htm never
heard of this but it looks to be interesting and would like to get some
input on the product has anyone used it before or are using now I dont have
the $$ to just spend to test a product out hehe thanks for the input in
advance

Jason

It's nonsense.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets



Jason wrote on 6/12/2006 2:57 PM:
I was looking around for info on the diffurent Protien Skimmers and was
wondering if this was a decent product or was just a bogus "lets sell the
customer anything" ordeal http://www.ecoaqualizer.com/products.htm never
heard of this but it looks to be interesting and would like to get some
input on the product has anyone used it before or are using now I dont have
the $$ to just spend to test a product out hehe thanks for the input in
advance

Jason

This question just came up last month 5-22-06 :-)

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets



Wayne Sallee wrote on 6/12/2006 3:36 PM:
It's nonsense.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets



Jason wrote on 6/12/2006 2:57 PM:
I was looking around for info on the diffurent Protien Skimmers and was
wondering if this was a decent product or was just a bogus "lets sell the
customer anything" ordeal http://www.ecoaqualizer.com/products.htm never
heard of this but it looks to be interesting and would like to get some
input on the product has anyone used it before or are using now I dont
have
the $$ to just spend to test a product out hehe thanks for the input in
advance

Jason

Here is the test one more time....
http://www.inlandreef.com/Testing/Eco.html
I hate dishonesty in this hobby !!!
Perhaps we should invite one of these guys to this discussion
and have them explain their product.

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"Wayne Sallee" wrote in message
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This question just came up last month 5-22-06 :-)

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets



Wayne Sallee wrote on 6/12/2006 3:36 PM:
It's nonsense.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets



Jason wrote on 6/12/2006 2:57 PM:
I was looking around for info on the diffurent Protien Skimmers and was
wondering if this was a decent product or was just a bogus "lets sell
the
customer anything" ordeal http://www.ecoaqualizer.com/products.htm never
heard of this but it looks to be interesting and would like to get some
input on the product has anyone used it before or are using now I dont
have
the $$ to just spend to test a product out hehe thanks for the input in
advance

Jason

On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 13:57:42 -0500, "Jason"
wrote:

I was looking around for info on the diffurent Protien Skimmers and was
wondering if this was a decent product or was just a bogus "lets sell the
customer anything" ordeal

I think that guy's previous CV might have included some time in the
HiFi industry.

Steve

Ok well I am new to the reef thing and I am just not sure as to what
filtration to use because I have been reading around and there is a bunch of
diffurent setups to choose from my wife and I have been total freshwater up
untill this point but we both know that if we are not patient it will cost
alot more in the end so we are just trying to ask around and get diffurent
inputs on what to do as far as the filtration goes, we have a 29 Gallon tank
that we just emptied all of our freshwater out and were wanting to setup a
reef tank but not sure what type of filtration to use some of the diffurent
ideas that have been suggested where taking a Aqua Clear and gutting it to
make it a refugian or using a emperor 400 and a protien skimmer or using a
canister filter with a protien skimmer (looking around most if not all the
canister filters are for big gallon tanks) so we are just wanting to get
some advise of the most proficient setup for a 29 gallon tank thanks

Jason

"Steve" wrote in message
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On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 13:57:42 -0500, "Jason"
wrote:

I was looking around for info on the diffurent Protien Skimmers and was
wondering if this was a decent product or was just a bogus "lets sell the
customer anything" ordeal

I think that guy's previous CV might have included some time in the
HiFi industry.

Steve

On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 18:06:16 -0500, "Jason"
wrote:

using a emperor 400 and a protien skimmer or using a
canister filter with a protien skimmer (looking around most if not all the
canister filters are for big gallon tanks) so we are just wanting to get
some advise of the most proficient setup for a 29 gallon tank thanks

I wouldn't even think about a cannister filter. For a reef you need
plenty of mature live rock, and a reasonable skimmer, no more no less.
Read about the Berlin method if you haven't already.

Steve

yeah I have I was looking at this one Red Sea Berlin skimmer Berlin
Classic-25 to 250gal with Rio+ 2500UL Pump, but what filter would you
recommend with it would the emperor 400 be a good one to go with?

Jason

"Steve" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 18:06:16 -0500, "Jason"
wrote:

using a emperor 400 and a protien skimmer or using a
canister filter with a protien skimmer (looking around most if not all
the
canister filters are for big gallon tanks) so we are just wanting to get
some advise of the most proficient setup for a 29 gallon tank thanks

I wouldn't even think about a cannister filter. For a reef you need
plenty of mature live rock, and a reasonable skimmer, no more no less.
Read about the Berlin method if you haven't already.

Steve

Jason wrote:
yeah I have I was looking at this one Red Sea Berlin skimmer Berlin
Classic-25 to 250gal with Rio+ 2500UL Pump, but what filter would you
recommend with it would the emperor 400 be a good one to go with?

Jason



Jason

Just to follow up with what other people have said and to expand on some
of it. For filtration on a reef tank the best way to go is with a
natural filtration system. Use live rock and live sand as your primary
filtration. With that there are no filter devices you need on the tank
other than a protien skimmer. No emperor no canister just a skimmer.

Now speaking of skimmers the RSB is not real bad skimmer but you can get
ones a lot better for not much more money. Plus the Rio 2500 is to
small to run it well if you end up with the RSB go for a mag 7 or mag
9.5 or a RIO 3100 to get max performance from the skimmer. A better
skimmer in the same price range is the TurboFlotor T1000. It is
available as in sump unit(better) or as the Multi which can be use as a
hang on.

On skimmers, do not skimp in this area get a good skimmer, and to make
sure you get a good skimmer talk to as many people as you can most of
the poplular skimmers from most LFS ar not very good. Some good
affordable skimmers include the ASM skimmers, the Octopus skimmers, Euro
Reef (but spendy) etc. If you are setting up a sump normally you can
get a much more powerful in sump model for a lot less money than a
hangon, sometimes you can save enough money to pay for a lot of your
sump setup.


Refugium. A refugium is not really a filter, but it adds to the natural
filter system and is a great addition to any sal****er tank. To setup a
refugium all you need is an area in your sump or another tank online
your system or even an area in your main tank that you can grow some
macro algea and allow the pods to grow without preditaion.



Kim Gross
www.jensalt.com

On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 19:17:31 -0500, "Jason"
wrote:

yeah I have I was looking at this one Red Sea Berlin skimmer Berlin
Classic-25 to 250gal with Rio+ 2500UL Pump, but what filter would you
recommend with it would the emperor 400 be a good one to go with?

Absolutely no filter at all, just use the rock. As I say if you read
up Berlin you will see why filters are harmful in a reef, not helpful.

Steve