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Old July 5th 06, 12:01 AM posted to rec.ponds
~ janj
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Default Lotus that jumped the pot

On 4 Jul 2006 09:09:58 -0700, "gene" wrote:

I have a lotus that is just starting to put up leaves, and I have found
that one of its three growing points has jumped the pot (I planted it
too close to the edge in the first place). I read a newsletter that
said that the writer took a runner from a lotus that jumped its pot and
replanted it elsewhere. I thought you couldn't touch those things
during growing season out of concern that injury would rot the whole
plant.

I also read that if the plant is producing out of pot runners, it
diminishes the chances for blooming, which I certainly don't want to
happen. It's hard enough to get those things started and keep the
racoons out afterwards.

So, if your experience was that you could cut off a runner that's just
wandering around in the water, and replant it in the summer, without
damaging the rest of the plant, I would be very grateful to hear from
you.


I haven't done it, but I've heard of people directing the runner into a
another pot. Supposedly rot will stop at the knuckle, do I recommend it?
No, not from my stand point. ~ jan
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Old July 6th 06, 04:43 PM posted to rec.ponds
gene
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Default Lotus that jumped the pot

Thank you JanJ and Koi-Lo.

I find Lotuses so tempramental that I just wasn't willing to take the
risk this late in the season., so I gently twisted it around and
directed it back into the pot along with the main roots. It didn't
crack, so far so good.

Gene

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Old July 6th 06, 08:20 PM posted to rec.ponds
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"gene" wrote in message
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Thank you JanJ and Koi-Lo.

I find Lotuses so tempramental that I just wasn't willing to take the
risk this late in the season., so I gently twisted it around and
directed it back into the pot along with the main roots. It didn't
crack, so far so good.

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After 7 or 8 years my Lotus still has not bloomed. I added extra fertilizer
and still not one bud. It's a pretty plant and back by the fence so I'll
keep it, but I would never purchase or trade for another one.
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Old July 6th 06, 08:44 PM posted to rec.ponds
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"gene" wrote in message
Thank you JanJ and Koi-Lo.

I find Lotuses so tempramental that I just wasn't willing to take the
risk this late in the season., so I gently twisted it around and
directed it back into the pot along with the main roots. It didn't
crack, so far so good.


I don't blame you for being careful. I've got 9+ buds with 3 blooming on
one lotus and 3+ buds coming on the other. Unfortunately they're both the
same, but a ponding friend, who doesn't want to bother with wintering over
the one she has in a stand-alone pot, is giving it to me. So I'll have it
for next year. ~ jan
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Old July 6th 06, 11:31 PM posted to rec.ponds
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On Thu, 06 Jul 2006 12:44:54 -0700, ~ janj
wrote:

I've got 9+ buds with 3 blooming on
one lotus and 3+ buds coming on the other.


I'm jealous! What are you using for fertilizer? These AgSafe
spikes have a higher nitrogen content ratio than I've ever used for
pond plant or flowering plants in general, but they seem to work well
and my lilies are blooming well.

Regards,

Hal
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Old July 9th 06, 08:17 PM posted to rec.ponds
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Default Lotus that jumped the pot

I'm jealous! What are you using for fertilizer? These AgSafe
spikes have a higher nitrogen content ratio than I've ever used for
pond plant or flowering plants in general, but they seem to work well
and my lilies are blooming well.
Hal


Jobe's Tomato Spikes. :-) ~ jan
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Old July 10th 06, 01:31 PM posted to rec.ponds
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On Sun, 09 Jul 2006 12:17:01 -0700, ~ janj
wrote:

Jobe's Tomato Spikes. :-) ~ jan


Of course! If it ain't broke don't fix it. I ran out of time and
energy and looked for a less time consuming way to fertilize pond
plants. I'm still not totally sold on the AgSafe spikes, but they
were easier this year, and I only had to do it once.

I have overcrowding of leaves, even on the lilies with more distance
between. It doesn't seem to be a serious problem, the leaves just
angle up from the water a bit and block sun from the earlier leaves.
They generally grow out a bit farther, until some are covering others,
but I guess that probably happened before and I may not have noticed
it.

I have about a 6x6 ft. hot tub that I converted to a lily pond just
outside the back door and a 6" end of a 30 gal barrel fits into the
lower section nicely. I started with 4 red lilies in that barrel
end, (I've forgotten the name, but they grow in 3' depths.) but I took
one out and left three. The three fill the area quite well and I
think next year I should cut the number down to two. It is quite a
show stepping outside the door to 3 to 5 blooms almost daily, but the
leaves in the center of the tub are crowded and mostly at about 20 to
30 degrees and sometimes hide one or more of the blooms. I think
this is the higher nitrogen 12-20-8 formulation instead of a 6-12-6
like the tomato spikes. I don't recall an overgrowth of leaves when
I used tomato spikes.

Regards,

Hal
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Old July 6th 06, 11:31 PM posted to rec.ponds
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On Thu, 6 Jul 2006 14:20:30 -0500, "Koi-Lo" ¤?¤@ö½.Õ..Õ¢ wrote:

After 7 or 8 years my Lotus still has not bloomed. I added extra fertilizer
and still not one bud. It's a pretty plant and back by the fence so I'll
keep it, but I would never purchase or trade for another one.


I had one for a year that didn't bloom, but this year I have one that
has bloomed once and has three more buds, one should open tomorrow or
the next day. I understand they are heavy feeders. I have it in a
half barrel container, about 20 gallons or so with a bag and a little
more of topsoil and 4 AgSafe spikes, once a year fertilizer. They
seem to work well and I'll probably use them again next year.

I bought a Mrs Perry D Slocum tuber and planted it in a similar pot
and it died. I was a bit disappointed in that one, but the one that
is doing so well came free from a friend. I have concerns about the
top soil and perhaps I should have used garden soil instead, but I had
topsoil for another project and used what was handy. Oh, Well!

I've enjoyed the free one so much, I may use some of my wife's jewelry
money and buy another one next spring.

Regards,

Hal
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Old July 7th 06, 02:21 AM posted to rec.ponds
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"Hal" wrote in message
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I had one for a year that didn't bloom, but this year I have one that
has bloomed once and has three more buds, one should open tomorrow or
the next day. I understand they are heavy feeders. I have it in a
half barrel container, about 20 gallons or so with a bag and a little
more of topsoil and 4 AgSafe spikes, once a year fertilizer. They
seem to work well and I'll probably use them again next year.

I bought a Mrs Perry D Slocum tuber and planted it in a similar pot
and it died. I was a bit disappointed in that one, but the one that
is doing so well came free from a friend. I have concerns about the
top soil and perhaps I should have used garden soil instead, but I had
topsoil for another project and used what was handy. Oh, Well!

I've enjoyed the free one so much, I may use some of my wife's jewelry
money and buy another one next spring.

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If my Lotus would bloom half as good as my water lilies I'd be thrilled.
I've been using Jobe's Rose spikes but now added a different fertilizer for
other plants. The Lotus is tall, has huge nice green leaves about 5' tall
and yet never a blossom. I don't know what can be missing. It's kept
watered with water from the koi fry tanks. It's planted in regular soil
from the garden which is medium fertile on its own.

I can't see why topsoil would have harmed your lotus. Could you have buried
it too deep? I just laid the original tuber on the muck and added enough
over it to hold it in place. It moved itself down to the bottom (?).
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Old July 7th 06, 08:03 PM posted to rec.ponds
Hal
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On Thu, 6 Jul 2006 20:21:01 -0500, "Koi-Lo" ¤?¤@ö½.Õ..Õ¢ wrote:

I can't see why topsoil would have harmed your lotus. Could you have buried
it too deep? I just laid the original tuber on the muck and added enough
over it to hold it in place. It moved itself down to the bottom (?).


Directions that came with it said not to bury it, but lay it on top of
the dirt and hold it down with a rock. That's what I did, but it
didn't like something I did, because it just never grew big. It put
on three or four leaves about 3" diameter that looked pale yellow
green for about a week and then shriveled up. I may have been just
plain bad luck. Anyway I put water hyacinths and rush in the barrel
until next year. I'll use garden soil next year.

Regards,

Hal
 




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