G'day.

* swarvegorilla wrote, On 9/25/2006 9:05 PM:

In more important news, why 'Booger' do ya have to chose my thread to be a 3
year old on?

What I wanna know is, why do people keep answering him? I killfiled him, but
the replies are still wasting my time.

Wow, I've never seen of heard of a Pataecus fronto, the Red Indian Fish.
Awesome. So tell me about his mannerisms... very interesting. That had
to cost you an arm or a leg, or both.

All I've read is they are only around Australia so I guess it would be
easier for you to get than I - Texas. But I couldn't find anything about
their aquarium life.

Not to mix up threads but I just want to say it all here... I had an
Anthias as well. Beautiful fish. I just could not get it to eat. If you
do buy one make the pet store feed it in front of you. That's not a
guarantee but that will add to your chances. They are only caught in the
ocean, not tank-born and raised from what I've read. Many times in the tank
they don't eat ANYTHING. I tried it all and in the process spoiled my other
critters so now I have to feed them more frequently.

Not to ward you away from Anthias, but I agree you may want to wait a bit to
get your tank more underway and your other new fish settled in so you can
spend more time watching this guy.

B
my set up and short Anthias story: www.geocities.com/bryg30



"swarvegorilla" wrote in message
u...

Have my stocklist here, so it's all looking pretty good!
if anyone can see probs with this list please gimme a heads up.
:-)
Bicolour Angel (bicolor)
Blue damsel (coelestis)
Clown wrasse (coris gaimard) Juv.
Cleaner wrasse (dimidaitus)
banana wrasse (chrysus)
Gold/purple Anthias (Pseudanthias sqamipinnis) 4 F 1 M
Red indian fish (Pataecus fronto)

All of these fish have lept out and begged me to buy them
A lotta wrasse I know but I have 4 tanks to spread them out in.
My main problem is who outta these guys is gonna eat me liverock and
corals?
As I said before, aside from getting on with clowns, it would be good if
they didn't destroy too much

Bryan wrote:

But I couldn't find anything about their aquarium life.

One thing I did find is that they max out about 35 cm. That takes a pretty large
tank and might have something to do with the reluctance of importers to bring
them into the States.

It is not listed as a threatened species by the IUCN, but that doesn't eliminate
the possibility that there is some sort of prohibition on exporting it commercially.

George Patterson
All successes in conservation are temporary. All defeats are permanent.

"George Patterson" wrote in message
news:Vk1Sg.4097$Zj4.934@trndny04...
Bryan wrote:

But I couldn't find anything about their aquarium life.

One thing I did find is that they max out about 35 cm. That takes a pretty
large tank and might have something to do with the reluctance of importers
to bring them into the States.

It is not listed as a threatened species by the IUCN, but that doesn't
eliminate the possibility that there is some sort of prohibition on
exporting it commercially.

George Patterson
All successes in conservation are temporary. All defeats are
permanent.

I am a reasonably advanced aquarist, and my fishys come fresh from the
collectors on da barrier.
Many don't ship so well.
Have never kept the Indian fish myself either
these that I listed are just a few I have picked out that I want.
Have none of them... yet
Gonna be ordering a lot more marine than that
thats what I do friend
order fish, set them up and sell them off
I also talk.... a lot.
Reef is my weakness.
I just always seem to add something destructive.
Last time it was a hermit crab.
I really like those anthias...... they are really nice.
I could always call the wholesaler and see how they look at his end?
I mean they really are really nice, I'd almost be game to try for a species
tank of them.

They are not destructive to anything, they just need to
eat several times a day.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets



swarvegorilla wrote on 9/26/2006 11:15 AM:
"George Patterson" wrote in message
news:Vk1Sg.4097$Zj4.934@trndny04...
Bryan wrote:

But I couldn't find anything about their aquarium life.
One thing I did find is that they max out about 35 cm. That takes a pretty
large tank and might have something to do with the reluctance of importers
to bring them into the States.

It is not listed as a threatened species by the IUCN, but that doesn't
eliminate the possibility that there is some sort of prohibition on
exporting it commercially.

George Patterson
All successes in conservation are temporary. All defeats are
permanent.

I am a reasonably advanced aquarist, and my fishys come fresh from the
collectors on da barrier.
Many don't ship so well.
Have never kept the Indian fish myself either
these that I listed are just a few I have picked out that I want.
Have none of them... yet
Gonna be ordering a lot more marine than that
thats what I do friend
order fish, set them up and sell them off
I also talk.... a lot.
Reef is my weakness.
I just always seem to add something destructive.
Last time it was a hermit crab.
I really like those anthias...... they are really nice.
I could always call the wholesaler and see how they look at his end?
I mean they really are really nice, I'd almost be game to try for a species
tank of them.

Oops wrong post :-)

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets



Wayne Sallee wrote on 9/26/2006 3:33 PM:
They are not destructive to anything, they just need to eat several
times a day.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets



swarvegorilla wrote on 9/26/2006 11:15 AM:
"George Patterson" wrote in message
news:Vk1Sg.4097$Zj4.934@trndny04...
Bryan wrote:

But I couldn't find anything about their aquarium life.
One thing I did find is that they max out about 35 cm. That takes a
pretty large tank and might have something to do with the reluctance
of importers to bring them into the States.

It is not listed as a threatened species by the IUCN, but that
doesn't eliminate the possibility that there is some sort of
prohibition on exporting it commercially.

George Patterson
All successes in conservation are temporary. All defeats are
permanent.

I am a reasonably advanced aquarist, and my fishys come fresh from the
collectors on da barrier.
Many don't ship so well.
Have never kept the Indian fish myself either
these that I listed are just a few I have picked out that I want.
Have none of them... yet
Gonna be ordering a lot more marine than that
thats what I do friend
order fish, set them up and sell them off
I also talk.... a lot.
Reef is my weakness.
I just always seem to add something destructive.
Last time it was a hermit crab.
I really like those anthias...... they are really nice.
I could always call the wholesaler and see how they look at his end?
I mean they really are really nice, I'd almost be game to try for a
species tank of them.

Ok well not exactly wrong post. I was referring to the
anthias.

I need to get some sleep. This business really cuts into
my sleep. Who needs sleep anyway :-)

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets



Wayne Sallee wrote on 9/26/2006 3:55 PM:
Oops wrong post :-)

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets



Wayne Sallee wrote on 9/26/2006 3:33 PM:
They are not destructive to anything, they just need to eat several
times a day.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets



swarvegorilla wrote on 9/26/2006 11:15 AM:
"George Patterson" wrote in message
news:Vk1Sg.4097$Zj4.934@trndny04...
Bryan wrote:

But I couldn't find anything about their aquarium life.
One thing I did find is that they max out about 35 cm. That takes a
pretty large tank and might have something to do with the reluctance
of importers to bring them into the States.

It is not listed as a threatened species by the IUCN, but that
doesn't eliminate the possibility that there is some sort of
prohibition on exporting it commercially.

George Patterson
All successes in conservation are temporary. All defeats are
permanent.

I am a reasonably advanced aquarist, and my fishys come fresh from
the collectors on da barrier.
Many don't ship so well.
Have never kept the Indian fish myself either
these that I listed are just a few I have picked out that I want.
Have none of them... yet
Gonna be ordering a lot more marine than that
thats what I do friend
order fish, set them up and sell them off
I also talk.... a lot.
Reef is my weakness.
I just always seem to add something destructive.
Last time it was a hermit crab.
I really like those anthias...... they are really nice.
I could always call the wholesaler and see how they look at his end?
I mean they really are really nice, I'd almost be game to try for a
species tank of them.

You know gorilla, you might actually have better look with a school over a
single anthias. They should be fine either way but the school will probably
be more comfortable in a tank together, therefore eat. I've done some
reading on them about this.

Just make sure the vendor has been able to feed them in the tank. That up's
your chances quite a bit.

Good luck,
Bryan

"swarvegorilla" wrote in message
u...

"George Patterson" wrote in message
news:Vk1Sg.4097$Zj4.934@trndny04...
Bryan wrote:

But I couldn't find anything about their aquarium life.

One thing I did find is that they max out about 35 cm. That takes a
pretty large tank and might have something to do with the reluctance of
importers to bring them into the States.

It is not listed as a threatened species by the IUCN, but that doesn't
eliminate the possibility that there is some sort of prohibition on
exporting it commercially.

George Patterson
All successes in conservation are temporary. All defeats are
permanent.

I am a reasonably advanced aquarist, and my fishys come fresh from the
collectors on da barrier.
Many don't ship so well.
Have never kept the Indian fish myself either
these that I listed are just a few I have picked out that I want.
Have none of them... yet
Gonna be ordering a lot more marine than that
thats what I do friend
order fish, set them up and sell them off
I also talk.... a lot.
Reef is my weakness.
I just always seem to add something destructive.
Last time it was a hermit crab.
I really like those anthias...... they are really nice.
I could always call the wholesaler and see how they look at his end?
I mean they really are really nice, I'd almost be game to try for a
species tank of them.

Bryan: Just a thought I was advised that a school of anthias, or chromis
will need allot of food because unlike other fish they are constantly moving
in the water column and there for have a higher metabolism. Feeding the
tank allot is not necessarily a good thing. Just my .02 worth.
Bill M
"Bryan" wrote in message
...
You know gorilla, you might actually have better look with a school over a
single anthias. They should be fine either way but the school will
probably be more comfortable in a tank together, therefore eat. I've done
some reading on them about this.

Just make sure the vendor has been able to feed them in the tank. That
up's your chances quite a bit.

Good luck,
Bryan

"swarvegorilla" wrote in message
u...

"George Patterson" wrote in message
news:Vk1Sg.4097$Zj4.934@trndny04...
Bryan wrote:

But I couldn't find anything about their aquarium life.

One thing I did find is that they max out about 35 cm. That takes a
pretty large tank and might have something to do with the reluctance of
importers to bring them into the States.

It is not listed as a threatened species by the IUCN, but that doesn't
eliminate the possibility that there is some sort of prohibition on
exporting it commercially.

George Patterson
All successes in conservation are temporary. All defeats are
permanent.

I am a reasonably advanced aquarist, and my fishys come fresh from the
collectors on da barrier.
Many don't ship so well.
Have never kept the Indian fish myself either
these that I listed are just a few I have picked out that I want.
Have none of them... yet
Gonna be ordering a lot more marine than that
thats what I do friend
order fish, set them up and sell them off
I also talk.... a lot.
Reef is my weakness.
I just always seem to add something destructive.
Last time it was a hermit crab.
I really like those anthias...... they are really nice.
I could always call the wholesaler and see how they look at his end?
I mean they really are really nice, I'd almost be game to try for a
species tank of them.

you're right Bill. I had to step up my feeding on the single anthias I had.
Unfortunately he never ate so all my other fish had gotten fat. I
should have mentioned that. Sounds like the poster has some experience
though so hopefully he'll pick up on that.

Thanks,

B



"William Marsh" wrote in message
...
Bryan: Just a thought I was advised that a school of anthias, or chromis
will need allot of food because unlike other fish they are constantly
moving in the water column and there for have a higher metabolism.
Feeding the tank allot is not necessarily a good thing. Just my .02
worth.
Bill M
"Bryan" wrote in message
...
You know gorilla, you might actually have better look with a school over
a single anthias. They should be fine either way but the school will
probably be more comfortable in a tank together, therefore eat. I've
done some reading on them about this.

Just make sure the vendor has been able to feed them in the tank. That
up's your chances quite a bit.

Good luck,
Bryan

"swarvegorilla" wrote in message
u...

"George Patterson" wrote in message
news:Vk1Sg.4097$Zj4.934@trndny04...
Bryan wrote:

But I couldn't find anything about their aquarium life.

One thing I did find is that they max out about 35 cm. That takes a
pretty large tank and might have something to do with the reluctance of
importers to bring them into the States.

It is not listed as a threatened species by the IUCN, but that doesn't
eliminate the possibility that there is some sort of prohibition on
exporting it commercially.

George Patterson
All successes in conservation are temporary. All defeats are
permanent.

I am a reasonably advanced aquarist, and my fishys come fresh from the
collectors on da barrier.
Many don't ship so well.
Have never kept the Indian fish myself either
these that I listed are just a few I have picked out that I want.
Have none of them... yet
Gonna be ordering a lot more marine than that
thats what I do friend
order fish, set them up and sell them off
I also talk.... a lot.
Reef is my weakness.
I just always seem to add something destructive.
Last time it was a hermit crab.
I really like those anthias...... they are really nice.
I could always call the wholesaler and see how they look at his end?
I mean they really are really nice, I'd almost be game to try for a
species tank of them.