Fluval 404 disaster

Thanks, did not know that. The KY liquid worked great and dissolved
away after all was in position....but it was embarrassing to have on my
fish shelf.

"NetMax" wrote in message
.. .
That's a good idea (lubricating all the O-rings regularly), especially
as
canisters are tight fits. I've been told to avoid petroleum jelly as
it
breaks down rubber O-rings (but not silicon O-rings). Plumber's
grease,
available in hardware stores is potable and supposedly good for any
O-ring material.

NetMax

"Stan" wrote in message
...
Yes I know what you mean.

What's really fun is having the top slide open when you start it up.

I have found that the big O-ring will overtime get non-slippery and
when
you close the top it will hold back some tension instead of sliding
fully into place. This seems to happen whether it or the case is
wet
or
not. I lubricate these days with petroleum jelly and has not
happened
since. The top slides closed very easily. Before I had some
Vaseline,
I used KY and chapstick.

These days I lubricate all the rubber O-rings on all my filters,
even
my
Emperors.


"Dan J.S." wrote in message
...
I turned the filters off (two fluval 404s on a 150 gallon tank) to
do
a
partial water change. As I am doing the change, I notice water
creeping from
under the stand. Sure enough, one of the filters is leaking. This
is
the
second time in one year that this has happened (leak when they are
off).
Anyway, because we had a bunch of storms in the area, this was
always
in the
back of my head. Today I tossed the one year old filter (I would
not
even
consider selling it) and have placed two Emperor 400s on order
from
big als.
I don't think I will ever buy another Hagen product. Last time
this
happened, and I called Hangen, I was told this is unusual. A quick
google
news search would suggest other wise. If this happened while I was
on
vacation, I would have 150 gallons on the floor. At least with the
suspension filters, that's one less worry.

"Stan" wrote in message
...
Thanks, did not know that. The KY liquid worked great and dissolved
away after all was in position....but it was embarrassing to have on my
fish shelf.

So put in on your bathroom shelf. lol :-)


Graham.