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Old October 4th 06, 10:29 AM posted to rec.ponds
sean mckinney
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Personally I see no problem with 2m deep. However 2m deep and only 2m
wide, with shelves, is going to make for an awkward lining with sheet
liner, I speak with the experience of lining my 4ft deep 10ft wide,
shelved pond. Try making up a shelved cardboard box and try lining that
with plastic sheet to see what I mean. Given your dimensions I'd suggest
either digging straight down to depth and building concrete block walls
or if you want built in shelves reduce the depth or preferably increase
the width significantly.

Personally straight down and concrete walls would be my choice, its
simpler to line and greatly increases the water volume, plant shelves
can them be made of benchs sat on the pond floor or plants can be hung
in baskets from the sides. Make sure you or visitors could, unaided,
get out of 6ft deep water should they fall in

That said I would do some research before going any further, look into
filtration, pumps, access, wiring and plumbing etc

A good UK site to browse is http://www.koicymru.co.uk/construct.htm
http://www.yorkshirekoi.co.uk/ may also be useful

useful american board is
http://208.67.224.245/forums/
the latter is for ideas, not techniques, their building methods differ
from ours.

Re a minimum thickness for soil levees, I dont know numeric values but
I think they are a good idea because, IMO, they allow the pond level to
be above the surrounding ground level which avoids runoff and liner
ballooning issues. Mine is about 2ft wide at the top, ie wide enough
for a path, for ease of access reasons not structural.




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Old October 7th 06, 09:01 AM posted to rec.ponds
Manky Badger
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"sean mckinney" wrote in message
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Personally I see no problem with 2m deep. However 2m deep and only 2m
wide, with shelves, is going to make for an awkward lining with sheet
liner, I speak with the experience of lining my 4ft deep 10ft wide,
shelved pond. Try making up a shelved cardboard box and try lining that
with plastic sheet to see what I mean. Given your dimensions I'd suggest
either digging straight down to depth and building concrete block walls
or if you want built in shelves reduce the depth or preferably increase
the width significantly.

Personally straight down and concrete walls would be my choice, its
simpler to line and greatly increases the water volume, plant shelves
can them be made of benchs sat on the pond floor or plants can be hung
in baskets from the sides. Make sure you or visitors could, unaided,
get out of 6ft deep water should they fall in

That said I would do some research before going any further, look into
filtration, pumps, access, wiring and plumbing etc

A good UK site to browse is http://www.koicymru.co.uk/construct.htm
http://www.yorkshirekoi.co.uk/ may also be useful

useful american board is
http://208.67.224.245/forums/
the latter is for ideas, not techniques, their building methods differ
from ours.

Re a minimum thickness for soil levees, I dont know numeric values but
I think they are a good idea because, IMO, they allow the pond level to
be above the surrounding ground level which avoids runoff and liner
ballooning issues. Mine is about 2ft wide at the top, ie wide enough
for a path, for ease of access reasons not structural.


Cheers for that.

The plan is to have a rectangular pond 4 metres by 2 metres, which slopes
(steeply) down to a maximum depth of 2 metres. I wasn't planning on shelves,
but I like your idea of sitting benches in there if need be.

I'm very grateful for all the advice - but another question if I may -
is/are there any newsgroups/forums that stay more on topic. I know what
usenet is like, but as a newbie it strikes me that this ng seems to attract
far more than the usual share of OT flames & squabbles.





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Old October 7th 06, 02:58 PM posted to rec.ponds
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I think there is. I dont see much cause I use the filters heavily. there is/was
somebody on the list who fights on all channels and brought the fight here.
sorry. Ingrid

"Manky Badger" wrote:
I'm very grateful for all the advice - but another question if I may -
is/are there any newsgroups/forums that stay more on topic. I know what
usenet is like, but as a newbie it strikes me that this ng seems to attract
far more than the usual share of OT flames & squabbles.







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Old October 7th 06, 03:30 PM posted to rec.ponds
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Manky Badger wrote:
"sean mckinney" wrote in
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I'm very grateful for all the advice - but another question if I may -
is/are there any newsgroups/forums that stay more on topic. I know
what usenet is like, but as a newbie it strikes me that this ng seems
to attract far more than the usual share of OT flames & squabbles.


If you find one, let me know please!
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Old October 7th 06, 09:04 PM posted to rec.ponds
Köi-Lö
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"BoyPete" wrote in message
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Manky Badger wrote:
"sean mckinney" wrote in
message ...


snip
I'm very grateful for all the advice - but another question if I may -
is/are there any newsgroups/forums that stay more on topic. I know
what usenet is like, but as a newbie it strikes me that this ng seems
to attract far more than the usual share of OT flames & squabbles.


If you find one, let me know please!

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You might have to do a search of this NG as I know there are at least two
online Pond Forums that are moderated. Both were mentioned here in the past
year.
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http://tinyurl.com/9do58
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Old October 7th 06, 09:03 PM posted to rec.ponds
Köi-Lö
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"Manky Badger" wrote in message
...
I'm very grateful for all the advice - but another question if I may -
is/are there any newsgroups/forums that stay more on topic. I know what
usenet is like, but as a newbie it strikes me that this ng seems to
attract far more than the usual share of OT flames & squabbles.

==========================
Yes. But unfortunately I don't have the information to give. I don't care
much for Internet Forums. I stick with Usenet.
I'm sure someone will come along and post the information for you.
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Frugal ponding since 1995.
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
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