Water change reuse?

BTW, there is a method to avoid water changes for more than twice a year
is
any at all.

Can you explain how? I have to do a water change at lest overother month,
might be the amount of fish I have in the tank.
Thanks Steve
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See my web site
http://web.tampabay.rr.com/myreef/

If I explained how I'll get bombarded AGAIN with insults by retailers that
want to sell!
I had not have a water change for a year now, it is a FWLR system ready to
be upgraded to a reef as soon as I find a good lighting system ( I am
looking into a T5).
My tank is a 65gal tank, 20gal refugium with 30 inches of livestock (add up
the length of your fish and invertebrates as a rule of thumb for an inch of
fish you need a gallon of water)
Is as easy as IN-LINE filtering. When 100% of the water goes throw the
filtering system in different phases (my filter has 7 phases that mimics the
natural environment), all the water gets treated and it returns recycled to
your tank.
Calculate the total length of your livestock and compare it to the volume of
water in your aquarium minus all the volume displaced by rock and deco.
You see, retailers like Wayne won't tell you this because they loose profit
or they just don't know. After more than 20 years as a coastal marine
biologist I designed a filtering system that does just that.
When I came here with the idea a year ago, everyone laughed and insulted me.
Now after a year of experimentation, I HAVEN'T HAD ONE SINGLE WATER CHANGE.
Am I selling my filter yet? no, still waiting for it to be patented but any
book on Marine Biology will give you the idea.
iy

"Steven M" wrote in message
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BTW, there is a method to avoid water changes for more than twice a year
is
any at all.

Can you explain how? I have to do a water change at lest overother month,
might be the amount of fish I have in the tank.
Thanks Steve
--
See my web site
http://web.tampabay.rr.com/myreef/

Most people do a 15% water change once a month. I like
doing a 50% water change about once every 3 to 6 months.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets



Steven M wrote on 11/6/2006 8:03 PM:
BTW, there is a method to avoid water changes for more than twice a year
is
any at all.

Can you explain how? I have to do a water change at lest overother month,
might be the amount of fish I have in the tank.
Thanks Steve

Wayne Sallee wrote:
Most people do a 15% water change once a month. I like doing a 50% water
change about once every 3 to 6 months.

I do 6 gallons change in my 55 gallon tank weekly. Because
of all the rocks and corals, it's probably more than 15%.
The RO/DI has to be run weekly anyhow, and some green algae
has to be removed that often and the additives are used
weekly + the coral feeding and the anemone's weekly shrimp
diet, so it just seems convenient. Also, 6 gallons is how
much fits in the pail, so I don't have to measure the level
in the tank. It just seems all around simpler to do all the
weekly stuff at once.

rtk

Yep, and setting things up so that they are easier for you
is key. When it's easy, it gets done.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets



rtk wrote on 11/9/2006 7:57 AM:
Wayne Sallee wrote:
Most people do a 15% water change once a month. I like doing a 50%
water change about once every 3 to 6 months.

I do 6 gallons change in my 55 gallon tank weekly. Because of all the
rocks and corals, it's probably more than 15%. The RO/DI has to be run
weekly anyhow, and some green algae has to be removed that often and the
additives are used weekly + the coral feeding and the anemone's weekly
shrimp diet, so it just seems convenient. Also, 6 gallons is how much
fits in the pail, so I don't have to measure the level in the tank. It
just seems all around simpler to do all the weekly stuff at once.

rtk

It seems to me that you don't have an aquarium, the aquarium has you!
Do you ever go on vacation? if that's so, who does your weekly water
changes?
As far as I know, your weekly water changes replace all the filters in your
tank, might as well get rid of those because they are doing nothing to your
water.
And you only have a 55?
I have a friend that spent $3k on hardware and does water changes every 4
days, yes, almost twice a week.
I have to brag about it now, I have a 65gal with a minitank in series of 20
gal, total of 85gals on my system and haven't done a water change in a year
yet with 30 inches of livestock that is the envy of my neighbors because of
how good it looks in my favorite place.
Soon I'll be posting pictures here but until I can manage to build a better
illumination system, I have to wait!
iy

"rtk" wrote in message
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Wayne Sallee wrote:
Most people do a 15% water change once a month. I like doing a 50% water
change about once every 3 to 6 months.

I do 6 gallons change in my 55 gallon tank weekly. Because of all the
rocks and corals, it's probably more than 15%. The RO/DI has to be run
weekly anyhow, and some green algae has to be removed that often and the
additives are used weekly + the coral feeding and the anemone's weekly
shrimp diet, so it just seems convenient. Also, 6 gallons is how much fits
in the pail, so I don't have to measure the level in the tank. It just
seems all around simpler to do all the weekly stuff at once.

rtk

I have to brag about it now, I have a 65gal with a minitank in series of
20 gal, total of 85gals on my system and haven't done a water change in a
year yet with 30 inches of livestock that is the envy of my neighbors
because of how good it looks in my favorite place.

No water changes in a yeah? Huh? Snicker.

I haven't done a water change over a year either. Most of these knuckle
heads in this NG are brain washed into thinking you have to do water
changes. The people who push it are LFS owners like Wayne. The more water
changes you do the more money he makes.

One of the very last times I did a water change, I screwed up my water
chemistry and killed half my fish. I stopped doing water changes and my
nitrites, ammonia and nitrates are all undetectable!

No water changes in a year NOT yeah.

Great, at least I am not alone...
You are right, the only reason people do water changes is because their
filters don't work properly.
LFSs like Wayne make a lot of money of fooling people to buy a bunch or
intruments that don't do anything so they have to go back to him and buy
water...
How about posting pictures here of our tanks?
I can't wait to show mine.
iy
"bo0ger1" .@. wrote in message
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I have to brag about it now, I have a 65gal with a minitank in series of
20 gal, total of 85gals on my system and haven't done a water change in a
year yet with 30 inches of livestock that is the envy of my neighbors
because of how good it looks in my favorite place.

No water changes in a yeah? Huh? Snicker.

I haven't done a water change over a year either. Most of these knuckle
heads in this NG are brain washed into thinking you have to do water
changes. The people who push it are LFS owners like Wayne. The more
water changes you do the more money he makes.

One of the very last times I did a water change, I screwed up my water
chemistry and killed half my fish. I stopped doing water changes and my
nitrites, ammonia and nitrates are all undetectable!

That's silly. Maybe one day you will set up a reef tank,
and then you will know what this news group is all about.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets


bo0ger1 wrote on 11/9/2006 9:09 PM:
I have to brag about it now, I have a 65gal with a minitank in series of
20 gal, total of 85gals on my system and haven't done a water change in a
year yet with 30 inches of livestock that is the envy of my neighbors
because of how good it looks in my favorite place.

No water changes in a yeah? Huh? Snicker.

I haven't done a water change over a year either. Most of these knuckle
heads in this NG are brain washed into thinking you have to do water
changes. The people who push it are LFS owners like Wayne. The more water
changes you do the more money he makes.

One of the very last times I did a water change, I screwed up my water
chemistry and killed half my fish. I stopped doing water changes and my
nitrites, ammonia and nitrates are all undetectable!