Is This a Good Deal?

Haywood Jablowme wrote:

Won't angelfish like this eat soft corals?

Some will. The Swallowtail and Lamarck's angels do not. The Rock Beauty is also
ok, but it eats sponges, so it's a bit hard to keep. The Asfur, Chrysurus,
Imperator, and Navarchus angels are said to be ok with "noxious soft corals."
Which corals are noxious is another research project.

All other large angels for sale on the Foster & Smith website are likely to at
least nip at corals of any type.

George Patterson
Forgive your enemies. But always remember who they are.

Since everyone was so much help, I thought I should provide an update...

Tank was delivered and set up in January. The water went in and the
pumps started for the first time on 1/21. My LFS recommended cycling
the tank with damsels. So, I added 18 mixed damsels the following
weekend.

All went well but the cycle never started. So, the LFS gave me some
Ammonium Chloride to get things started. It worked as subsequent tests
showed that the cycle had indeed started. It took nearly two months,
but I returned the damsels and stocked my tank. I only lost 3 damsels
and one of them was my own fault as he was hurt when I tried to catch
him. Catching damsels in a 150 gallon tank is not the easiest thing...

The compact florescent bulbs actually produce more heat than I
expected. Not as much as metal halide bulbs, but still enough to raise
the temperature in the tank. The room runs between 76 F and 77 F.
Running the lights, the water in the tank is normally 79 F to 81 F. I
think I am going to get a small fan to mount in the hood. This way, I
can blow some of that heat out into the room. Hopefully, this will
cause the water to be a little cooler. Here in Florida, heat can be a
real problem.

My lighting consists of two of the Sunpaq retrofit kits installed
directly into the hood.

Fish a 3 Heniochus Butterflyfish, 2 Pacific Blue Tangs, 1 Longnose
Butterfly (not sure if its flavissimus or longirostris, does anyone
know an easy way to tell?), and a small Golden Jack (Gnathanodon
speciosus).

My plans are to add a group of Tangs (yellow/purple/sailfin) and a
Centropyge angel in a couple of weeks. Then I will begin looking for a
spectacular large angelfish to add. Perhaps an Emperor or a Blueface.
Any suggestions?

Never did get any Ocellaris Clownfish. In my area, there are simply no
large ones available. Only the very tiny ones which I didn't think
were appropriate for a tank this size (150 gallons).

What do you think of my fish selection so far? Unfortunately, I had to
select from what he had. Also, I only selected from fish that he has
had for at least two weeks and those that readily accepted food.

I would really welcome any suggestions for future additions.

I would have to say that 'fox faced rabbit fish' are an awesome fish, and a
lawn mower blenny is also a good buy.
2 of my favourites anyway



"Haywood Jablowme" wrote in message
...

Since everyone was so much help, I thought I should provide an update...

Tank was delivered and set up in January. The water went in and the
pumps started for the first time on 1/21. My LFS recommended cycling
the tank with damsels. So, I added 18 mixed damsels the following
weekend.

All went well but the cycle never started. So, the LFS gave me some
Ammonium Chloride to get things started. It worked as subsequent tests
showed that the cycle had indeed started. It took nearly two months,
but I returned the damsels and stocked my tank. I only lost 3 damsels
and one of them was my own fault as he was hurt when I tried to catch
him. Catching damsels in a 150 gallon tank is not the easiest thing...

The compact florescent bulbs actually produce more heat than I
expected. Not as much as metal halide bulbs, but still enough to raise
the temperature in the tank. The room runs between 76 F and 77 F.
Running the lights, the water in the tank is normally 79 F to 81 F. I
think I am going to get a small fan to mount in the hood. This way, I
can blow some of that heat out into the room. Hopefully, this will
cause the water to be a little cooler. Here in Florida, heat can be a
real problem.

My lighting consists of two of the Sunpaq retrofit kits installed
directly into the hood.

Fish a 3 Heniochus Butterflyfish, 2 Pacific Blue Tangs, 1 Longnose
Butterfly (not sure if its flavissimus or longirostris, does anyone
know an easy way to tell?), and a small Golden Jack (Gnathanodon
speciosus).

My plans are to add a group of Tangs (yellow/purple/sailfin) and a
Centropyge angel in a couple of weeks. Then I will begin looking for a
spectacular large angelfish to add. Perhaps an Emperor or a Blueface.
Any suggestions?

Never did get any Ocellaris Clownfish. In my area, there are simply no
large ones available. Only the very tiny ones which I didn't think
were appropriate for a tank this size (150 gallons).

What do you think of my fish selection so far? Unfortunately, I had to
select from what he had. Also, I only selected from fish that he has
had for at least two weeks and those that readily accepted food.

I would really welcome any suggestions for future additions.

Thanks for the suggestions. I will definitely look for these fish the
next time I'm shopping.

Two questions:

1) Is the Lawnmower Blenny good for cleaning up food that makes it all
the way to the bottom? Can he compete for food with aggressive
feeders?

2) I believe all of the rabbitfish are venemous. Is this right? Does
this present a problem when doing maintenance?

Thanks, again, for the suggestions!

HJ

In article ,
swarvegorilla wrote:

I would have to say that 'fox faced rabbit fish' are an awesome fish, and a
lawn mower blenny is also a good buy.
2 of my favourites anyway



"Haywood Jablowme" wrote in message
...

Since everyone was so much help, I thought I should provide an update...

Tank was delivered and set up in January. The water went in and the
pumps started for the first time on 1/21. My LFS recommended cycling
the tank with damsels. So, I added 18 mixed damsels the following
weekend.

All went well but the cycle never started. So, the LFS gave me some
Ammonium Chloride to get things started. It worked as subsequent tests
showed that the cycle had indeed started. It took nearly two months,
but I returned the damsels and stocked my tank. I only lost 3 damsels
and one of them was my own fault as he was hurt when I tried to catch
him. Catching damsels in a 150 gallon tank is not the easiest thing...

The compact florescent bulbs actually produce more heat than I
expected. Not as much as metal halide bulbs, but still enough to raise
the temperature in the tank. The room runs between 76 F and 77 F.
Running the lights, the water in the tank is normally 79 F to 81 F. I
think I am going to get a small fan to mount in the hood. This way, I
can blow some of that heat out into the room. Hopefully, this will
cause the water to be a little cooler. Here in Florida, heat can be a
real problem.

My lighting consists of two of the Sunpaq retrofit kits installed
directly into the hood.

Fish a 3 Heniochus Butterflyfish, 2 Pacific Blue Tangs, 1 Longnose
Butterfly (not sure if its flavissimus or longirostris, does anyone
know an easy way to tell?), and a small Golden Jack (Gnathanodon
speciosus).

My plans are to add a group of Tangs (yellow/purple/sailfin) and a
Centropyge angel in a couple of weeks. Then I will begin looking for a
spectacular large angelfish to add. Perhaps an Emperor or a Blueface.
Any suggestions?

Never did get any Ocellaris Clownfish. In my area, there are simply no
large ones available. Only the very tiny ones which I didn't think
were appropriate for a tank this size (150 gallons).

What do you think of my fish selection so far? Unfortunately, I had to
select from what he had. Also, I only selected from fish that he has
had for at least two weeks and those that readily accepted food.

I would really welcome any suggestions for future additions.

You realy are stuooooooooooopid huh, having to ask this bunch of
perverts what fish to buy talk about a dumbass!]
]
On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 14:12:32 -0400, Haywood Jablowme
wrote:

Thanks for the suggestions. I will definitely look for these fish the
next time I'm shopping.

Two questions:

1) Is the Lawnmower Blenny good for cleaning up food that makes it all
the way to the bottom? Can he compete for food with aggressive
feeders?

2) I believe all of the rabbitfish are venemous. Is this right? Does
this present a problem when doing maintenance?

Thanks, again, for the suggestions!

HJ

In article ,
swarvegorilla wrote:

I would have to say that 'fox faced rabbit fish' are an awesome fish, and a
lawn mower blenny is also a good buy.
2 of my favourites anyway



"Haywood Jablowme" wrote in message
...

Since everyone was so much help, I thought I should provide an update...

Tank was delivered and set up in January. The water went in and the
pumps started for the first time on 1/21. My LFS recommended cycling
the tank with damsels. So, I added 18 mixed damsels the following
weekend.

All went well but the cycle never started. So, the LFS gave me some
Ammonium Chloride to get things started. It worked as subsequent tests
showed that the cycle had indeed started. It took nearly two months,
but I returned the damsels and stocked my tank. I only lost 3 damsels
and one of them was my own fault as he was hurt when I tried to catch
him. Catching damsels in a 150 gallon tank is not the easiest thing...

The compact florescent bulbs actually produce more heat than I
expected. Not as much as metal halide bulbs, but still enough to raise
the temperature in the tank. The room runs between 76 F and 77 F.
Running the lights, the water in the tank is normally 79 F to 81 F. I
think I am going to get a small fan to mount in the hood. This way, I
can blow some of that heat out into the room. Hopefully, this will
cause the water to be a little cooler. Here in Florida, heat can be a
real problem.

My lighting consists of two of the Sunpaq retrofit kits installed
directly into the hood.

Fish a 3 Heniochus Butterflyfish, 2 Pacific Blue Tangs, 1 Longnose
Butterfly (not sure if its flavissimus or longirostris, does anyone
know an easy way to tell?), and a small Golden Jack (Gnathanodon
speciosus).

My plans are to add a group of Tangs (yellow/purple/sailfin) and a
Centropyge angel in a couple of weeks. Then I will begin looking for a
spectacular large angelfish to add. Perhaps an Emperor or a Blueface.
Any suggestions?

Never did get any Ocellaris Clownfish. In my area, there are simply no
large ones available. Only the very tiny ones which I didn't think
were appropriate for a tank this size (150 gallons).

What do you think of my fish selection so far? Unfortunately, I had to
select from what he had. Also, I only selected from fish that he has
had for at least two weeks and those that readily accepted food.

I would really welcome any suggestions for future additions.

People sharing experiences and advice is what makes the internet what
it is. You have two choices...

1) You can continue spouting your venom and ****ing everyone off.

2) You can read the messages and (perhaps) learn something.

If your mind is open, I would recommend option 2. If you wish to keep
your mind closed then YOU are the stupid one. Regardless of how much
you rant and rave, everyone will always know what you are. How sad it
must be to be so unhappy.

Whatever nickname people choose to use is absolutely none of your
concern. So, please put your energy to better use.

Haywood J.

In article , Reel McKoi
wrote:

You realy are stuooooooooooopid huh, having to ask this bunch of
perverts what fish to buy talk about a dumbass!]
]
On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 14:12:32 -0400, Haywood Jablowme
wrote:

Thanks for the suggestions. I will definitely look for these fish the
next time I'm shopping.

Two questions:

1) Is the Lawnmower Blenny good for cleaning up food that makes it all
the way to the bottom? Can he compete for food with aggressive
feeders?

2) I believe all of the rabbitfish are venemous. Is this right? Does
this present a problem when doing maintenance?

Thanks, again, for the suggestions!

HJ

In article ,
swarvegorilla wrote:

I would have to say that 'fox faced rabbit fish' are an awesome fish,
and a
lawn mower blenny is also a good buy.
2 of my favourites anyway



"Haywood Jablowme" wrote in message
...

Since everyone was so much help, I thought I should provide an
update...

Tank was delivered and set up in January. The water went in and the
pumps started for the first time on 1/21. My LFS recommended cycling
the tank with damsels. So, I added 18 mixed damsels the following
weekend.

All went well but the cycle never started. So, the LFS gave me some
Ammonium Chloride to get things started. It worked as subsequent
tests
showed that the cycle had indeed started. It took nearly two months,
but I returned the damsels and stocked my tank. I only lost 3 damsels
and one of them was my own fault as he was hurt when I tried to catch
him. Catching damsels in a 150 gallon tank is not the easiest
thing...

The compact florescent bulbs actually produce more heat than I
expected. Not as much as metal halide bulbs, but still enough to
raise
the temperature in the tank. The room runs between 76 F and 77 F.
Running the lights, the water in the tank is normally 79 F to 81 F. I
think I am going to get a small fan to mount in the hood. This way, I
can blow some of that heat out into the room. Hopefully, this will
cause the water to be a little cooler. Here in Florida, heat can be a
real problem.

My lighting consists of two of the Sunpaq retrofit kits installed
directly into the hood.

Fish a 3 Heniochus Butterflyfish, 2 Pacific Blue Tangs, 1 Longnose
Butterfly (not sure if its flavissimus or longirostris, does anyone
know an easy way to tell?), and a small Golden Jack (Gnathanodon
speciosus).

My plans are to add a group of Tangs (yellow/purple/sailfin) and a
Centropyge angel in a couple of weeks. Then I will begin looking for
a
spectacular large angelfish to add. Perhaps an Emperor or a Blueface.
Any suggestions?

Never did get any Ocellaris Clownfish. In my area, there are simply
no
large ones available. Only the very tiny ones which I didn't think
were appropriate for a tank this size (150 gallons).

What do you think of my fish selection so far? Unfortunately, I had
to
select from what he had. Also, I only selected from fish that he has
had for at least two weeks and those that readily accepted food.

I would really welcome any suggestions for future additions.

"Haywood Jablowme" wrote in message
...

Thanks for the suggestions. I will definitely look for these fish the
next time I'm shopping.

Two questions:

1) Is the Lawnmower Blenny good for cleaning up food that makes it all
the way to the bottom? Can he compete for food with aggressive
feeders?

they are excellent algae eaters, but yes they are ok in a scrap. They enjoy
algae discs if you wanted a sinking treat.
Mine come to the surface with the frenzy now, but at first were shy.
It's also a 'common name' for a group of blennys that vary in colour shape
and size in the trade.

2) I believe all of the rabbitfish are venemous. Is this right? Does
this present a problem when doing maintenance?

Not for me yet.
I'm scared of lionfish, mantis shrimp, big triggers, ockys and cone snails
when playing around.
The foxface, he's me mate




Thanks, again, for the suggestions!

HJ

No prob mate
Don't mind the trolls
they die hard but mean well.
or something like that,
it's roots are long lost in lameness



In article ,
swarvegorilla wrote:

I would have to say that 'fox faced rabbit fish' are an awesome fish, and
a
lawn mower blenny is also a good buy.
2 of my favourites anyway



"Haywood Jablowme" wrote in message
...

Since everyone was so much help, I thought I should provide an
update...

Tank was delivered and set up in January. The water went in and the
pumps started for the first time on 1/21. My LFS recommended cycling
the tank with damsels. So, I added 18 mixed damsels the following
weekend.

All went well but the cycle never started. So, the LFS gave me some
Ammonium Chloride to get things started. It worked as subsequent tests
showed that the cycle had indeed started. It took nearly two months,
but I returned the damsels and stocked my tank. I only lost 3 damsels
and one of them was my own fault as he was hurt when I tried to catch
him. Catching damsels in a 150 gallon tank is not the easiest thing...

The compact florescent bulbs actually produce more heat than I
expected. Not as much as metal halide bulbs, but still enough to raise
the temperature in the tank. The room runs between 76 F and 77 F.
Running the lights, the water in the tank is normally 79 F to 81 F. I
think I am going to get a small fan to mount in the hood. This way, I
can blow some of that heat out into the room. Hopefully, this will
cause the water to be a little cooler. Here in Florida, heat can be a
real problem.

My lighting consists of two of the Sunpaq retrofit kits installed
directly into the hood.

Fish a 3 Heniochus Butterflyfish, 2 Pacific Blue Tangs, 1 Longnose
Butterfly (not sure if its flavissimus or longirostris, does anyone
know an easy way to tell?), and a small Golden Jack (Gnathanodon
speciosus).

My plans are to add a group of Tangs (yellow/purple/sailfin) and a
Centropyge angel in a couple of weeks. Then I will begin looking for a
spectacular large angelfish to add. Perhaps an Emperor or a Blueface.
Any suggestions?

Never did get any Ocellaris Clownfish. In my area, there are simply no
large ones available. Only the very tiny ones which I didn't think
were appropriate for a tank this size (150 gallons).

What do you think of my fish selection so far? Unfortunately, I had to
select from what he had. Also, I only selected from fish that he has
had for at least two weeks and those that readily accepted food.

I would really welcome any suggestions for future additions.

I'm going to also look into your suggestion (Foxface Rabbitfish). My
original idea was to get a group of surgeonfish. A group of three,
perhaps two yellow tangs and a purple tang. Or a pair of purple tangs
and a yellow tang. In a tank this large, if all were added at the same
time, they should settle down in a few days. I did this on a smaller
scale in an Oceanic 58 gallon tank years ago and it worked out fine.

My LFS is trying to talk me out of the tangs and into the Rabbitfish.
What is the attraction? Are they less boisterous than Tangs? Are they
hardier than Tangs? Will they do OK in a group? Or, am I better off
just adding one?

Thanks, again, for your advice!

HJ

P.S. all of the fish are still doing great! I just need to make sure
the food is broken apart in small enough pieces for the Longnose
Butterflyfish to be able to eat.

In article ,
swarvegorilla wrote:

"Haywood Jablowme" wrote in message
...

Thanks for the suggestions. I will definitely look for these fish the
next time I'm shopping.

Two questions:

1) Is the Lawnmower Blenny good for cleaning up food that makes it all
the way to the bottom? Can he compete for food with aggressive
feeders?

they are excellent algae eaters, but yes they are ok in a scrap. They enjoy
algae discs if you wanted a sinking treat.
Mine come to the surface with the frenzy now, but at first were shy.
It's also a 'common name' for a group of blennys that vary in colour shape
and size in the trade.

2) I believe all of the rabbitfish are venemous. Is this right? Does
this present a problem when doing maintenance?

Not for me yet.
I'm scared of lionfish, mantis shrimp, big triggers, ockys and cone snails
when playing around.
The foxface, he's me mate




Thanks, again, for the suggestions!

HJ

No prob mate
Don't mind the trolls
they die hard but mean well.
or something like that,
it's roots are long lost in lameness



In article ,
swarvegorilla wrote:

I would have to say that 'fox faced rabbit fish' are an awesome fish, and
a
lawn mower blenny is also a good buy.
2 of my favourites anyway



"Haywood Jablowme" wrote in message
...

Since everyone was so much help, I thought I should provide an
update...

Tank was delivered and set up in January. The water went in and the
pumps started for the first time on 1/21. My LFS recommended cycling
the tank with damsels. So, I added 18 mixed damsels the following
weekend.

All went well but the cycle never started. So, the LFS gave me some
Ammonium Chloride to get things started. It worked as subsequent tests
showed that the cycle had indeed started. It took nearly two months,
but I returned the damsels and stocked my tank. I only lost 3 damsels
and one of them was my own fault as he was hurt when I tried to catch
him. Catching damsels in a 150 gallon tank is not the easiest thing...

The compact florescent bulbs actually produce more heat than I
expected. Not as much as metal halide bulbs, but still enough to raise
the temperature in the tank. The room runs between 76 F and 77 F.
Running the lights, the water in the tank is normally 79 F to 81 F. I
think I am going to get a small fan to mount in the hood. This way, I
can blow some of that heat out into the room. Hopefully, this will
cause the water to be a little cooler. Here in Florida, heat can be a
real problem.

My lighting consists of two of the Sunpaq retrofit kits installed
directly into the hood.

Fish a 3 Heniochus Butterflyfish, 2 Pacific Blue Tangs, 1 Longnose
Butterfly (not sure if its flavissimus or longirostris, does anyone
know an easy way to tell?), and a small Golden Jack (Gnathanodon
speciosus).

My plans are to add a group of Tangs (yellow/purple/sailfin) and a
Centropyge angel in a couple of weeks. Then I will begin looking for a
spectacular large angelfish to add. Perhaps an Emperor or a Blueface.
Any suggestions?

Never did get any Ocellaris Clownfish. In my area, there are simply no
large ones available. Only the very tiny ones which I didn't think
were appropriate for a tank this size (150 gallons).

What do you think of my fish selection so far? Unfortunately, I had to
select from what he had. Also, I only selected from fish that he has
had for at least two weeks and those that readily accepted food.

I would really welcome any suggestions for future additions.

"Haywood Jablowme" wrote in message
...

I'm going to also look into your suggestion (Foxface Rabbitfish). My
original idea was to get a group of surgeonfish. A group of three,
perhaps two yellow tangs and a purple tang. Or a pair of purple tangs
and a yellow tang. In a tank this large, if all were added at the same
time, they should settle down in a few days. I did this on a smaller
scale in an Oceanic 58 gallon tank years ago and it worked out fine.

My LFS is trying to talk me out of the tangs and into the Rabbitfish.
What is the attraction? Are they less boisterous than Tangs? Are they
hardier than Tangs? Will they do OK in a group? Or, am I better off
just adding one?

Thanks, again, for your advice!

HJ

P.S. all of the fish are still doing great! I just need to make sure
the food is broken apart in small enough pieces for the Longnose
Butterflyfish to be able to eat.

Tangs don't always get along that well, need to be fed often and stress out
get disease easily.......
Foxfaces are just great fish, I have only ever had one in a tank so can't
talk about how they would go in a group.
But yea, maybe it's because I like scats so much and they remind me of
them....
Just friendly and cool looking
hmmm.... wish I could give ya a better answer but "I likes them' is about
all I can find.

Who really gives a **** .....are you related to CArol Gulleys
grandkid. She eats lots of bananas!

On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 17:04:46 +1100, "swarvegorilla"
wrote:
I would have to say that 'fox faced rabbit fish' are an awesome fish, and a
lawn mower blenny is also a good buy.
2 of my favourites anyway



"Haywood Jablowme" wrote in message
news:220320072141274039%Haywood.Jablowme@yahoo .com...

Since everyone was so much help, I thought I should provide an update...

Tank was delivered and set up in January. The water went in and the
pumps started for the first time on 1/21. My LFS recommended cycling
the tank with damsels. So, I added 18 mixed damsels the following
weekend.

All went well but the cycle never started. So, the LFS gave me some
Ammonium Chloride to get things started. It worked as subsequent tests
showed that the cycle had indeed started. It took nearly two months,
but I returned the damsels and stocked my tank. I only lost 3 damsels
and one of them was my own fault as he was hurt when I tried to catch
him. Catching damsels in a 150 gallon tank is not the easiest thing...

The compact florescent bulbs actually produce more heat than I
expected. Not as much as metal halide bulbs, but still enough to raise
the temperature in the tank. The room runs between 76 F and 77 F.
Running the lights, the water in the tank is normally 79 F to 81 F. I
think I am going to get a small fan to mount in the hood. This way, I
can blow some of that heat out into the room. Hopefully, this will
cause the water to be a little cooler. Here in Florida, heat can be a
real problem.

My lighting consists of two of the Sunpaq retrofit kits installed
directly into the hood.

Fish a 3 Heniochus Butterflyfish, 2 Pacific Blue Tangs, 1 Longnose
Butterfly (not sure if its flavissimus or longirostris, does anyone
know an easy way to tell?), and a small Golden Jack (Gnathanodon
speciosus).

My plans are to add a group of Tangs (yellow/purple/sailfin) and a
Centropyge angel in a couple of weeks. Then I will begin looking for a
spectacular large angelfish to add. Perhaps an Emperor or a Blueface.
Any suggestions?

Never did get any Ocellaris Clownfish. In my area, there are simply no
large ones available. Only the very tiny ones which I didn't think
were appropriate for a tank this size (150 gallons).

What do you think of my fish selection so far? Unfortunately, I had to
select from what he had. Also, I only selected from fish that he has
had for at least two weeks and those that readily accepted food.

I would really welcome any suggestions for future additions.