Ghost shrimp etc

KurtG wrote:
Well, I can't resist. I'll pick some up and I'll let the group know
what happens.

They turned out to be freshwater shrimp, so I took a pass. I'd like to
get a refugium together, so maybe then.

--Kurt

They need a lid over them. They'll pop out of the tank like popcorn. I had
some in a nano tank and at times when I opened the lid it was like popcorn
popping out the tank. Even my other tanks with versa glass tops they still
manage to jump out the back where there was only a small space that wasn't
covered.

Good-luck
Susan
"KurtG" wrote in message
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KurtG wrote:
Well, I can't resist. I'll pick some up and I'll let the group know what
happens.

They turned out to be freshwater shrimp, so I took a pass. I'd like to
get a refugium together, so maybe then.

--Kurt

So where do we all agree on ghost shrimp....are they sal****er or
freshwater species. I see thre same info for fresh as salt, and nno
mention of any scientific name to differentiate, so is it all how
they are acclimated or due to whatever stage of their life they are
harvested at or?????


On Tue, 12 Dec 2006 03:04:39 GMT, "Susan"
wrote:

They need a lid over them. They'll pop out of the tank like popcorn. I had
some in a nano tank and at times when I opened the lid it was like popcorn
popping out the tank. Even my other tanks with versa glass tops they still
manage to jump out the back where there was only a small space that wasn't
covered.

Good-luck
Susan
"KurtG" wrote in message
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KurtG wrote:
Well, I can't resist. I'll pick some up and I'll let the group know what
happens.

They turned out to be freshwater shrimp, so I took a pass. I'd like to
get a refugium together, so maybe then.

--Kurt




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Tristan wrote:

Try this link and scroll down to section 6...

http://www.thekrib.com/Fish/Shrimp/

So it looks like some are freshwater, some are marine and some are
brackish. The genus, from a bit of googling, is Palaemon - haven't
managed to indentify a tropical marine species yet

Gill

Immature shrimp around here (Florida) grow in fresh/brackish water, and
then move to the ocean when they mature (often during a good rain storm).

Not sure on their breeding behavior. That is, do mature shrimp return to
rivers to spawn? No idea.

I'm thinking that these are the same species of Ghost Shrimp taken at
different stages of life, or maybe the small ones have been acclimated
to salt water.

--Kurt



Gill Passman wrote:
Tristan wrote:

Try this link and scroll down to section 6...

http://www.thekrib.com/Fish/Shrimp/

So it looks like some are freshwater, some are marine and some are
brackish. The genus, from a bit of googling, is Palaemon - haven't
managed to indentify a tropical marine species ye
So it looks like some are freshwater, some are marine and some are
brackish. The genus, from a bit of googling, is Palaemon - haven't
managed to indentify a tropical marine species yet
t

Gill

KurtG wrote:

Immature shrimp around here (Florida) grow in fresh/brackish water, and
then move to the ocean when they mature (often during a good rain storm).

Not sure on their breeding behavior. That is, do mature shrimp return to
rivers to spawn? No idea.

I'm thinking that these are the same species of Ghost Shrimp taken at
different stages of life, or maybe the small ones have been acclimated
to salt water.

--Kurt



Not quite the same thing, but I'm guessing much the same principle
applies with FW Ghost Shrimp.....a while back I did quite a bit of
research on how to breed Amano Shrimp....in this case, the adults spawn
in freshwater....once the "fry" hatch they are immediateley swept out to
sea/brackish water....as they develop they make there way back to the
freshwater again where the adults live - that's a bit simplified but
pretty much the principle is there....

Now, from what I've read about breeding these in a tank...the key is to
remove the young shrimps as soon as they have hatched and put them
straight into salt water....as they grow slowly start adding freshwater
into the tank until the salt level is minimal - and there you have it -
amano shrimps - if anyone ever did this, I would suggest that selling
the amano shrimps would be far more lucrative than using them as food....

When it comes to Ghost Shrimp - they seem, at least in the US, to be a
lot cheaper - Amanos you are talking £20 for two....so getting
freshwater Ghost Shrimps to breed and raising the offspring in
sal****er/brackish might be an option for food (but I'm not entirely
sure that Ghost's follow the same breeding pattern as Amanos)....there
do appear to be brackish and sal****er species of the same genre....the
key, I guess, is knowing what you have bought rather than relying on the
common name....

Gill

A gfhost shrimp at a local bix box pet chain is regular price of 39
cents often on sale for 29 cents or our LFS here has them at the
everyday price of 20 cents each, unless you buy more then the price
goes down about a nickle. each.

On Wed, 13 Dec 2006 20:37:05 +0000, Gill Passman
wrote:

KurtG wrote:

Immature shrimp around here (Florida) grow in fresh/brackish water, and
then move to the ocean when they mature (often during a good rain storm).

Not sure on their breeding behavior. That is, do mature shrimp return to
rivers to spawn? No idea.

I'm thinking that these are the same species of Ghost Shrimp taken at
different stages of life, or maybe the small ones have been acclimated
to salt water.

--Kurt



Not quite the same thing, but I'm guessing much the same principle
applies with FW Ghost Shrimp.....a while back I did quite a bit of
research on how to breed Amano Shrimp....in this case, the adults spawn
in freshwater....once the "fry" hatch they are immediateley swept out to
sea/brackish water....as they develop they make there way back to the
freshwater again where the adults live - that's a bit simplified but
pretty much the principle is there....

Now, from what I've read about breeding these in a tank...the key is to
remove the young shrimps as soon as they have hatched and put them
straight into salt water....as they grow slowly start adding freshwater
into the tank until the salt level is minimal - and there you have it -
amano shrimps - if anyone ever did this, I would suggest that selling
the amano shrimps would be far more lucrative than using them as food....

When it comes to Ghost Shrimp - they seem, at least in the US, to be a
lot cheaper - Amanos you are talking £20 for two....so getting
freshwater Ghost Shrimps to breed and raising the offspring in
sal****er/brackish might be an option for food (but I'm not entirely
sure that Ghost's follow the same breeding pattern as Amanos)....there
do appear to be brackish and sal****er species of the same genre....the
key, I guess, is knowing what you have bought rather than relying on the
common name....

Gill



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"Gill Passman" wrote in message
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KurtG wrote:

Immature shrimp around here (Florida) grow in fresh/brackish water, and
then move to the ocean when they mature (often during a good rain storm).

Not sure on their breeding behavior. That is, do mature shrimp return to
rivers to spawn? No idea.

I'm thinking that these are the same species of Ghost Shrimp taken at
different stages of life, or maybe the small ones have been acclimated to
salt water.

--Kurt



Not quite the same thing, but I'm guessing much the same principle applies
with FW Ghost Shrimp.....a while back I did quite a bit of research on how
to breed Amano Shrimp....in this case, the adults spawn in
freshwater....once the "fry" hatch they are immediateley swept out to
sea/brackish water....as they develop they make there way back to the
freshwater again where the adults live - that's a bit simplified but
pretty much the principle is there....

Now, from what I've read about breeding these in a tank...the key is to
remove the young shrimps as soon as they have hatched and put them
straight into salt water....as they grow slowly start adding freshwater
into the tank until the salt level is minimal - and there you have it -
amano shrimps - if anyone ever did this, I would suggest that selling the
amano shrimps would be far more lucrative than using them as food....

When it comes to Ghost Shrimp - they seem, at least in the US, to be a lot
cheaper - Amanos you are talking £20 for two....so getting freshwater
Ghost Shrimps to breed and raising the offspring in sal****er/brackish
might be an option for food (but I'm not entirely sure that Ghost's follow
the same breeding pattern as Amanos)....there do appear to be brackish and
sal****er species of the same genre....the key, I guess, is knowing what
you have bought rather than relying on the common name....

Gill

Amano's are actually quite easy to breed
the secret is
don't have fish in with them!!!!!
I have the riffles (striata) breeding here
also harvest the eggs off me pregnant marine scavenger shrimp and raise them
in seperate tanks
Greenwater and no predators does wonders!

I have spent a fair amaount of time shrimping in the Guolf of Mexico,
and there is a vast varied assortment of sizes, hence they have the
minimum mesh sized nets, so as to lety smallones escape and only
collect larger ones. There is a differenc ein what mesh size is
allowed by various states, and it makes a big diference in sizes yu
find. I would have to hink they are out in the gulf when they spawn,
or at least in the initial portions of a bay with a short access to a
pass to the gulf, for breeding a that was always the best polace to
get a fast limit of shrimp, because most recreational shrimpers did
not have the capbility to get down to the bottom off shore like the
commercial shrimpers did. I know on the bay we lived at which was less
than 1 mile to the gulf there was only a small difference in SG,
overall except for further back inland where fresh water by way of a
stream entered the bay. By the time that water got just a small bit
away it too was just as much SG as the gulf was....but that baya had
a ton of shrimp none the less.....but everyone seemed to migrate away
forom the influx of the freswh water, even though it was
brackish....(IIRC 1.019 or so). I remember osme readings as we used to
collect NSW on occassion for a local critter tank we kept up during
summer months and sometimes weather was not fit to go off shore even a
short distancet to get it so we did collect water in the safest areas
back then in and around the bays etc, and we always checked SG.


On Wed, 13 Dec 2006 15:20:35 -0500, KurtG
wrote:


Immature shrimp around here (Florida) grow in fresh/brackish water, and
then move to the ocean when they mature (often during a good rain storm).

Not sure on their breeding behavior. That is, do mature shrimp return to
rivers to spawn? No idea.

I'm thinking that these are the same species of Ghost Shrimp taken at
different stages of life, or maybe the small ones have been acclimated
to salt water.

--Kurt



Gill Passman wrote:
Tristan wrote:

Try this link and scroll down to section 6...

http://www.thekrib.com/Fish/Shrimp/

So it looks like some are freshwater, some are marine and some are
brackish. The genus, from a bit of googling, is Palaemon - haven't
managed to indentify a tropical marine species ye
So it looks like some are freshwater, some are marine and some are
brackish. The genus, from a bit of googling, is Palaemon - haven't
managed to indentify a tropical marine species yet
t

Gill



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