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![]() "carlrs" wrote in message oups.com... Zëbulon wrote: "carlrs" wrote in message ups.com... Methylene Blue should be part of any aquarists first line of defence as you stated "Usually the fish ends up dying from the parasite before Aquarisol can kill it.", this Med works immediately in a bath I've seen improvement in bettas with velvet in 24 hours using Aquarisol. I do not argue this, as velvet has a fast life cycle (as compared to ich). Also I responding more to the other comment, not yours, as I don not dispute your results. I prefer a Methylene Blue bath as a first coarse of action when practicle. I assume you remove the fish for treatment if it's a bath. Some people have a lot of fish in larger tanks and that wouldn't be easy or practical. It's been my experience that bacterial infections get their start with parasites. I think we all know poor quality water takes down the fishes immune system and makes them easy prey to bacterial and fungal infections with or without parasites. This would be more a newbie to the hobbys problem. Experienced aquarists keep the water in good condition. Parasites in new fish are why I treat all incoming fish whether I see signs of them or not. Other people disagree with this. We're all entitled to our own opinion. After a real bad experience with gill-flukes I don't take chances anymore. Also I mentioned Pimafix which also has proven to effective against gram negative bacterial infections including columnaris which this may have been. Nitrfurazone, Kanamyacin, and Triple Sulfa also are effective here. I was told these antibiotics are having less and less of an effect on diseases due to overuse. Pimafix , along with Melafix, and Usnic Acid are not antibiotics. As for the antibiotics, that is again why I start with are methods of treatment first to prevent over use, but Kanamycin in particular is still very effective when not over used. That's good to know. Thanks. :-) Medicated Wonder shells also have some gram negative capabilities (although this product is generally better for fungus and ich or velvet), but this product also adds needed electrolytes and calcium, What antibiotic do they contain? Does it effect the nitrifying bacteria? And with bettas liking a softer acid water would calcium help them in any way? They contain no antibiotics. They contain Malachite Green, Copper Sulfate, Acriflavin, and buffered Methylene Blue. The effect on nitrifying bacteria is minimal (although like any "medication" they should not be over used). Medicated Wonder Shells can be hard on plants even over used. As for calcium, recent studies show ALL fish including discus need Calcium for proper osmotic function and disease prevention. The calcium also buffers the Malachite Green lower toxicity. The Medicated and Regular Wonder Shells also add electrolytes which are also very important for aquarium Redox and fish health. Here is a link to an article about this: http://www.americanaquariumproducts.com/AquariumKH.html again which my years of aquarium maintenance experience and research have shown (not mention many back in LA where I ran my service can attest to!). The regular Wonder Shells are a product especially for Betta bowls I think again should be part of many aquarists arsenal, but this is hard to convince on the Usenet. I don't recall seeing anything called Wonder Shells in the local stores. What do they contain? Wonder Shells have been around for quite a while in the LA area and are still a popular product there with many aquarists. Medicated Wonder Shells are a product I developed over the years of aquarium maintenance based on what I felt was the need for a better ich/ velvet/ fungus treatment that could also medicate when I was not present at a clients aquarium. I used the wonder shell based on my experience with this product as a good too for aquatic husbandry (despite the over blown name, as this product is only a tool, not a "Wonder" cure all). Hope all this helps as I respect your opinions. Here is a link to Wonder Shells themselves with more info: http://americanaquariumproducts.com/...nderShell.html Carl Thank you for the information. -- ZB.... Frugal ponding since 1995. rec.ponder since late 1996. My Pond & Aquarium Pages: http://tinyurl.com/9do58 ~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(ö ~~~~ }((((({* |
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