A new tank without cycling

"Tynk" wrote in message
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You cannot set such a vague "rule" when there are way too many
variables when it comes to stocking a fish...much more than it's size
in inches.
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Such as the fact a 1" goldfish passes a lot more waste than a 1" guppy.
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ZB....
Frugal ponding since 1995.
rec.ponder since late 1996.
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Zëbulon wrote:
"Tynk" wrote in message
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You cannot set such a vague "rule" when there are way too many
variables when it comes to stocking a fish...much more than it's size
in inches.
======================
Such as the fact a 1" goldfish passes a lot more waste than a 1"
guppy.

The rule was for tropical fish, not coldwater.




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"nut" wrote in message
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Zëbulon wrote:
"Tynk" wrote in message
oups.com...
You cannot set such a vague "rule" when there are way too many
variables when it comes to stocking a fish...much more than it's size
in inches.
======================
Such as the fact a 1" goldfish passes a lot more waste than a 1"
guppy.

The rule was for tropical fish, not coldwater.
=================
This is true but how many newbies know that? They come here all the time
asking about putting tropicals with goldfish. Some people keep them
together successfully.

Also, some tropicals have a lot more bulk per inch than others.
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ZB....
Frugal ponding since 1995.
rec.ponder since late 1996.
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(ö ~~~~ }((((({*

Zëbulon wrote:
"nut" wrote in message
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Zëbulon wrote:
"Tynk" wrote in message
oups.com...
You cannot set such a vague "rule" when there are way too many
variables when it comes to stocking a fish...much more than it's
size in inches.
======================
Such as the fact a 1" goldfish passes a lot more waste than a 1"
guppy.

The rule was for tropical fish, not coldwater.
=================
This is true but how many newbies know that? They come here all the
time asking about putting tropicals with goldfish. Some people keep
them together successfully.

Also, some tropicals have a lot more bulk per inch than others.

Newbies don't tend to keep cichlids, they keep non-aggressive community
fish... most of which have similar requirements.

However, i'm not disagreeing with you - i admit the rule isn't an accurate
guide.



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nut wrote:

Zëbulon wrote:
"nut" wrote in message
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Zëbulon wrote:
"Tynk" wrote in message
oups.com...
You cannot set such a vague "rule" when there are way too many
variables when it comes to stocking a fish...much more than it's
size in inches.
======================
Such as the fact a 1" goldfish passes a lot more waste than a 1"
guppy.

The rule was for tropical fish, not coldwater.
=================
This is true but how many newbies know that? They come here all the
time asking about putting tropicals with goldfish. Some people keep
them together successfully.

Also, some tropicals have a lot more bulk per inch than others.

Newbies don't tend to keep cichlids, they keep non-aggressive community
fish... most of which have similar requirements.

However, i'm not disagreeing with you - i admit the rule isn't an accurate
guide.

How many newbies DO keep an Oscar tho - and what a great example of how
useless the inch gallon rule is there... Sure, you can keep a 10 inch Oscar
in a 10g...

And I forgot angels as well...

And newbies also keep africans. They are pretty, and the LFS says they are
easy...

Zëbulon wrote:
"nut" wrote in message
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Zëbulon wrote:
"Tynk" wrote in message
oups.com...
You cannot set such a vague "rule" when there are way too many
variables when it comes to stocking a fish...much more than it's
size in inches.
======================
Such as the fact a 1" goldfish passes a lot more waste than a 1"
guppy.

The rule was for tropical fish, not coldwater.
=================
This is true but how many newbies know that? They come here all the
time asking about putting tropicals with goldfish. Some people keep
them together successfully.

Also, some tropicals have a lot more bulk per inch than others.

Newbies don't tend to keep cichlids, they keep non-aggressive community
fish... most of which have similar requirements.

However, i'm not disagreeing with you - i admit the rule isn't an accurate
guide.




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nut wrote:

Zëbulon wrote:
"nut" wrote in message
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Zëbulon wrote:
"Tynk" wrote in message
oups.com...
You cannot set such a vague "rule" when there are way too many
variables when it comes to stocking a fish...much more than it's
size in inches.
======================
Such as the fact a 1" goldfish passes a lot more waste than a 1"
guppy.

The rule was for tropical fish, not coldwater.
=================
This is true but how many newbies know that? They come here all the
time asking about putting tropicals with goldfish. Some people keep
them together successfully.

Also, some tropicals have a lot more bulk per inch than others.

Newbies don't tend to keep cichlids, they keep non-aggressive community
fish... most of which have similar requirements.

However, i'm not disagreeing with you - i admit the rule isn't an accurate
guide.

I know what you mean. People need a guide. but I feel it's a bad guide.
People do some easy math and think everything is fine. What they need to
know is more about the realities of what is going on in the tank and the
nitrogen cycle and toxin build up and all the rest.

Zëbulon wrote:

"nut" wrote in message
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Zëbulon wrote:

"Tynk" wrote in message
oups.com...

You cannot set such a vague "rule" when there are way too many
variables when it comes to stocking a fish...much more than it's size
in inches.

======================
Such as the fact a 1" goldfish passes a lot more waste than a 1"
guppy.


The rule was for tropical fish, not coldwater.

=================
This is true but how many newbies know that? They come here all the
time asking about putting tropicals with goldfish. Some people keep
them together successfully.

Also, some tropicals have a lot more bulk per inch than others.
My wife makes me keep HER goldfish in with my tropicals. It looks
strange, but it works.

"Jim Morcombe" wrote in message
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Zëbulon wrote:
This is true but how many newbies know that? They come here all the time
asking about putting tropicals with goldfish. Some people keep them
together successfully.

Also, some tropicals have a lot more bulk per inch than others.
My wife makes me keep HER goldfish in with my tropicals. It looks
strange, but it works.
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It works for a lot of people because GF can live quite well in warm water.
All my indoor fancy GF live with plecos and otos. The water seldom drops
below 75F in the tanks.
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ZB....
Frugal ponding since 1995.
rec.ponder since late 1996.
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
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Jim Morcombe wrote:

Zëbulon wrote:

"nut" wrote in message
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Zëbulon wrote:

"Tynk" wrote in message
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You cannot set such a vague "rule" when there are way too many
variables when it comes to stocking a fish...much more than it's size
in inches.

======================
Such as the fact a 1" goldfish passes a lot more waste than a 1"
guppy.


The rule was for tropical fish, not coldwater.

=================
This is true but how many newbies know that? They come here all the
time asking about putting tropicals with goldfish. Some people keep
them together successfully.

Also, some tropicals have a lot more bulk per inch than others.
My wife makes me keep HER goldfish in with my tropicals. It looks
strange, but it works.

My wife put her goldfish in my gourami tank once as well. I soon got her
another tank.

She appreciated it after one of the goldfish lost it's tail to a gudgeon.