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100% water change after about 4½ months??



 
 
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Old January 6th 07, 03:17 PM posted to rec.aquaria.freshwater.misc
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Default 100% water change after about 4½ months??

Gill Passman wrote:
nut wrote:




Don't use any water treatment... so long as the bucket has been
sitting overnight all the chlorine in the water will have evaporated.

Although it is true that Chlorine will disapate naturally if water is
left to stand the same is not true of chloramines. If you water
company uses chloramines in your water it is essential that you use a
suitable water conditioner before adding the water into your tank.
Personally, I use it even though, at the moment, my Water Company
does not use chloramines as I prefer to be able to get the water
change task done as efficiently as possible without having buckets of
water hanging around overnight - but then I have 6 tanks - and the
number of buckets required for a water change on a 130g tank make
this quite impractical....also without checking my water company's
website each time I change the water I never know if they might have
changed their policy on adding chloramines....


Thanks for the info Gill... i was unaware of this.



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Old January 6th 07, 03:55 PM posted to rec.aquaria.freshwater.misc
Tristan
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Default 100% water change after about 4½ months??



I sure am not a big fan of having to buy chemicals to get rid of
chlorine either. I add chemical chlorine remover only in a dire
emergency other than that I set water out in 5 gal buckets or use
water out of the bank of tanks that we have setup and running without
any fish in them. Its a constant supply of good water. 24 hours in an
open container will remove the chlorine, however as other pointe dout
cloramines need chemical remover to get rid of them. They will not
dissapate like chlorine will. Luckily the water company here does not
use cloramines.

On Sat, 6 Jan 2007 15:17:15 -0000, "nut"
wrote:

Gill Passman wrote:
nut wrote:




Don't use any water treatment... so long as the bucket has been
sitting overnight all the chlorine in the water will have evaporated.

Although it is true that Chlorine will disapate naturally if water is
left to stand the same is not true of chloramines. If you water
company uses chloramines in your water it is essential that you use a
suitable water conditioner before adding the water into your tank.
Personally, I use it even though, at the moment, my Water Company
does not use chloramines as I prefer to be able to get the water
change task done as efficiently as possible without having buckets of
water hanging around overnight - but then I have 6 tanks - and the
number of buckets required for a water change on a 130g tank make
this quite impractical....also without checking my water company's
website each time I change the water I never know if they might have
changed their policy on adding chloramines....

Thanks for the info Gill... i was unaware of this.



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Old January 6th 07, 04:57 PM posted to rec.aquaria.freshwater.misc
Gill Passman
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Default 100% water change after about 4½ months??

The other thing I forgot to add is that some water also contains heavy
metals that can also be neutralised by the addition of a water
conditioner....When chosing a water conditioner it is good to check that
it has chlorine, chloramines and heavy metals covered - not all do (or
so I've heard) - a lot of conditioners also contain other stuff which
claim to benefit/promote fish health - don't know if they do or not....

Gill
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Old January 6th 07, 04:59 PM posted to rec.aquaria.freshwater.misc
Tristan
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Default 100% water change after about 4½ months??

I do not know about the UK, but here in this state they are required
to send out a report of the drinking water parameters quarterly with
all levels of whatever is found in it, as well as what is used or what
problems they encountered with any water supply sources. The also
tellyou from what source the water is being pulled fron, as there are
a few different sources (mainly deep wells or aquifiers) that are used
and on occassion they sometimes pull water from another water
company.

So its easy to see what the water we get has in it, and what levels
are found. Phospates and nitrates are not all that common in this
region as compared to some. When I lived up north heavy metals were a
problem, and lots of locations had high iron contents. Here its almost
non-existent....

On Sat, 06 Jan 2007 16:57:22 +0000, Gill Passman
wrote:

The other thing I forgot to add is that some water also contains heavy
metals that can also be neutralised by the addition of a water
conditioner....When chosing a water conditioner it is good to check that
it has chlorine, chloramines and heavy metals covered - not all do (or
so I've heard) - a lot of conditioners also contain other stuff which
claim to benefit/promote fish health - don't know if they do or not....

Gill



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I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!
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Old January 6th 07, 06:26 PM posted to rec.aquaria.freshwater.misc
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Default 100% water change after about 4½ months??


Tristan wrote:
I do not know about the UK, but here in this state they are required
to send out a report of the drinking water parameters quarterly with
all levels of whatever is found in it, as well as what is used or what
problems they encountered with any water supply sources. The also
tellyou from what source the water is being pulled fron, as there are
a few different sources (mainly deep wells or aquifiers) that are used
and on occassion they sometimes pull water from another water
company.

So its easy to see what the water we get has in it, and what levels
are found. Phospates and nitrates are not all that common in this
region as compared to some. When I lived up north heavy metals were a
problem, and lots of locations had high iron contents. Here its almost
non-existent....

On Sat, 06 Jan 2007 16:57:22 +0000, Gill Passman
wrote:

The other thing I forgot to add is that some water also contains heavy
metals that can also be neutralised by the addition of a water
conditioner....When chosing a water conditioner it is good to check that
it has chlorine, chloramines and heavy metals covered - not all do (or
so I've heard) - a lot of conditioners also contain other stuff which
claim to benefit/promote fish health - don't know if they do or not....

Gill



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I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!


Here is a list of US Government standards for water, I often have
tested Nitrates above 25 ppm which this report shows a dangerous to
infants.
http://www.epa.gov/safewater/contaminants/index.html

Carl

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Old January 6th 07, 06:57 PM posted to rec.aquaria.freshwater.misc
Gill Passman
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Default 100% water change after about 4½ months??

Tristan wrote:
I do not know about the UK, but here in this state they are required
to send out a report of the drinking water parameters quarterly with
all levels of whatever is found in it, as well as what is used or what
problems they encountered with any water supply sources. The also
tellyou from what source the water is being pulled fron, as there are
a few different sources (mainly deep wells or aquifiers) that are used
and on occassion they sometimes pull water from another water
company.


As far as the UK is concerned (and I'm aware) this information is
available mainly on the Water Company's website - it is not sent out to
consumers unless they request it....this might just be my water provider
though and not a general UK thing. I'm also not sure of the frequency of
the analysis - The last report I can find published for my area on
Drinking Water Quality is for 2005....

So I reckon I'll work on the better safe than sorry approach - even if
stuff does not appear in the report it doesn't mean that there might not
be the odd mishap and a bottle of water conditioner is an awful lot
cheaper than replacing all my livestock....

Gill
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Old January 6th 07, 10:06 PM posted to rec.aquaria.freshwater.misc
carlrs
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Default 100% water change after about 4½ months??


Gill Passman wrote:
Tristan wrote:
I do not know about the UK, but here in this state they are required
to send out a report of the drinking water parameters quarterly with
all levels of whatever is found in it, as well as what is used or what
problems they encountered with any water supply sources. The also
tellyou from what source the water is being pulled fron, as there are
a few different sources (mainly deep wells or aquifiers) that are used
and on occassion they sometimes pull water from another water
company.


As far as the UK is concerned (and I'm aware) this information is
available mainly on the Water Company's website - it is not sent out to
consumers unless they request it....this might just be my water provider
though and not a general UK thing. I'm also not sure of the frequency of
the analysis - The last report I can find published for my area on
Drinking Water Quality is for 2005....

So I reckon I'll work on the better safe than sorry approach - even if
stuff does not appear in the report it doesn't mean that there might not
be the odd mishap and a bottle of water conditioner is an awful lot
cheaper than replacing all my livestock....

Gill


I also have more information about tap water in this blog post:
http://aquarium-answers.blogspot.com...water-for.html

Carl

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Old January 6th 07, 10:22 PM posted to rec.aquaria.freshwater.misc
JB
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Default 100% water change after about 4½ months??

Thanks for all the help.. I feel much more knowledgeable about my
aquarium since the first post..

One more thing is I have this grey/white goop inside my filter case and
didn't know what it may be..

 




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