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Old January 29th 07, 12:12 AM posted to rec.aquaria.marine.reefs
RubenD
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Default Aiptasia question

I got some caulerpa algae(was the only algae available to me) to help with
the red algae (probably due to nitrates in the tank),
to my surprise, the bag not only had the caulerpa but about 25 small
aiptasias. I washed the algae with tap water to get rid of them and left
the algae in a container until the next day when I put it on my tank after
visual inspection.

My question is, would aiptasia survive a night on tap water, and what are
my chances of infecting my tank with them.

How do they reproduce so fast? Are they at the microscopic level where the
naked eye might missed them?


Thanks,

Ruben



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Old February 1st 07, 09:54 PM posted to rec.aquaria.marine.reefs
RubenD
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Default Aiptasia question

Apparently I didn't get any on the tank (I hope).

But still wonder the chances....


Ruben


"RubenD" wrote in message
...
I got some caulerpa algae(was the only algae available to me) to help with
the red algae (probably due to nitrates in the tank),
to my surprise, the bag not only had the caulerpa but about 25 small
aiptasias. I washed the algae with tap water to get rid of them and left
the algae in a container until the next day when I put it on my tank after
visual inspection.

My question is, would aiptasia survive a night on tap water, and what

are
my chances of infecting my tank with them.

How do they reproduce so fast? Are they at the microscopic level where the
naked eye might missed them?


Thanks,

Ruben





  #3  
Old February 1st 07, 11:48 PM posted to rec.aquaria.marine.reefs
Tristan
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Default Aiptasia question

If you look on a newly setup or on a tankj that is not under the best
parameters, on the glass you can see the start of aiptasia. Often
times the new growths go unoticed as its on the back wall in dim light
areas. Less than ideal water parameters help it along. IN good water
parameters its still possible to get them as well as manjano's but
they stay under control relatively good and usualy do not present as
much of a problem.

Since they can shrivel up to a pin point in size, its hard top see any
on a new coral or piece of live rock or even in some sand or rubble or
a stand of macro algae....

Breaking up aip in a tank means each piece can create yet another aip.
I do not have any idea on what long term effect on algae or any other
marine inhabitant would be left standing in freshwater owuld be,
expecially long term, and not just a rinse. I do not have a problem
with getting them and then removing them later on by mechanical
picking or chemical....I think I would prefer to place them in a qt
type tank and observe before placing in main tank, or sump, before I
owuld give me a fresh water long term soak or dip.

Aip is not the end of the world niether is red slime algae or hair
algae...

On Thu, 1 Feb 2007 13:54:48 -0800, "RubenD"
wrote:

Apparently I didn't get any on the tank (I hope).

But still wonder the chances....


Ruben


"RubenD" wrote in message
.net...
I got some caulerpa algae(was the only algae available to me) to help with
the red algae (probably due to nitrates in the tank),
to my surprise, the bag not only had the caulerpa but about 25 small
aiptasias. I washed the algae with tap water to get rid of them and left
the algae in a container until the next day when I put it on my tank after
visual inspection.

My question is, would aiptasia survive a night on tap water, and what
are
my chances of infecting my tank with them.

How do they reproduce so fast? Are they at the microscopic level where the
naked eye might missed them?


Thanks,

Ruben







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  #4  
Old February 9th 07, 02:12 AM posted to rec.aquaria.marine.reefs
swarvegorilla
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Default Aiptasia question


"RubenD" wrote in message
. ..
Apparently I didn't get any on the tank (I hope).

But still wonder the chances....


Ruben


"RubenD" wrote in message
...
I got some caulerpa algae(was the only algae available to me) to help
with
the red algae (probably due to nitrates in the tank),
to my surprise, the bag not only had the caulerpa but about 25 small
aiptasias. I washed the algae with tap water to get rid of them and
left
the algae in a container until the next day when I put it on my tank
after
visual inspection.

My question is, would aiptasia survive a night on tap water, and what

are
my chances of infecting my tank with them.

How do they reproduce so fast? Are they at the microscopic level where
the
naked eye might missed them?


Thanks,

Ruben



nah ya need a big one to have babies in your tank
then it like rains these little jellyfish things
that become new anemone

they arent so bad
poor apista get a bad rap on the net
personally I recon they are good for beginnners
just a pain for you pro's
kinda like convicts
heh

and yes I breed conesnails as well

good luck on the extermination btw
soak in fresh should have done the trick


  #5  
Old February 9th 07, 02:42 PM posted to rec.aquaria.marine.reefs
Tristan
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Default Aiptasia question

I agree. I had a tank with aip i it along with other stuff most foks
flush. Mojano, mantis shrimp, bristle worms, asternia stars, aiptasia,
as well as sundial snails. I do not have a problem controlling it and
it as well as other so called undesireables have never really been
anywhere near as bad a problem as most claim them to be.


On Fri, 9 Feb 2007 13:12:39 +1100, "swarvegorilla"
wrote:


"RubenD" wrote in message
. net...
Apparently I didn't get any on the tank (I hope).

But still wonder the chances....


Ruben


"RubenD" wrote in message
...
I got some caulerpa algae(was the only algae available to me) to help
with
the red algae (probably due to nitrates in the tank),
to my surprise, the bag not only had the caulerpa but about 25 small
aiptasias. I washed the algae with tap water to get rid of them and
left
the algae in a container until the next day when I put it on my tank
after
visual inspection.

My question is, would aiptasia survive a night on tap water, and what
are
my chances of infecting my tank with them.

How do they reproduce so fast? Are they at the microscopic level where
the
naked eye might missed them?


Thanks,

Ruben


nah ya need a big one to have babies in your tank
then it like rains these little jellyfish things
that become new anemone

they arent so bad
poor apista get a bad rap on the net
personally I recon they are good for beginnners
just a pain for you pro's
kinda like convicts
heh

and yes I breed conesnails as well

good luck on the extermination btw
soak in fresh should have done the trick




-------
I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!
  #6  
Old February 9th 07, 08:34 PM posted to rec.aquaria.marine.reefs
RubenD
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Default Aiptasia question

Thanks,

Ruben

"swarvegorilla" wrote in message
...

"RubenD" wrote in message
. ..
Apparently I didn't get any on the tank (I hope).

But still wonder the chances....


Ruben


"RubenD" wrote in message
...
I got some caulerpa algae(was the only algae available to me) to help
with
the red algae (probably due to nitrates in the tank),
to my surprise, the bag not only had the caulerpa but about 25 small
aiptasias. I washed the algae with tap water to get rid of them and
left
the algae in a container until the next day when I put it on my tank
after
visual inspection.

My question is, would aiptasia survive a night on tap water, and what

are
my chances of infecting my tank with them.

How do they reproduce so fast? Are they at the microscopic level where
the
naked eye might missed them?


Thanks,

Ruben



nah ya need a big one to have babies in your tank
then it like rains these little jellyfish things
that become new anemone

they arent so bad
poor apista get a bad rap on the net
personally I recon they are good for beginnners
just a pain for you pro's
kinda like convicts
heh

and yes I breed conesnails as well

good luck on the extermination btw
soak in fresh should have done the trick




  #7  
Old February 14th 07, 05:37 AM posted to rec.aquaria.marine.reefs
Wayne Sallee
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Default Aiptasia question

I bet that tank was not as high quality of an
environment as a good reef tank :-) They grow fast
in reef tanks with high intense lighting. Coper
banded butterfly fish take care of them pretty
quickly though.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets


Tristan wrote on 2/9/2007 9:42 AM:
I agree. I had a tank with aip i it along with other stuff most foks
flush. Mojano, mantis shrimp, bristle worms, asternia stars, aiptasia,
as well as sundial snails. I do not have a problem controlling it and
it as well as other so called undesireables have never really been
anywhere near as bad a problem as most claim them to be.


On Fri, 9 Feb 2007 13:12:39 +1100, "swarvegorilla"
wrote:


"RubenD" wrote in message
. net...
Apparently I didn't get any on the tank (I hope).

But still wonder the chances....


Ruben


"RubenD" wrote in message
...
I got some caulerpa algae(was the only algae available to me) to help
with
the red algae (probably due to nitrates in the tank),
to my surprise, the bag not only had the caulerpa but about 25 small
aiptasias. I washed the algae with tap water to get rid of them and
left
the algae in a container until the next day when I put it on my tank
after
visual inspection.

My question is, would aiptasia survive a night on tap water, and what
are
my chances of infecting my tank with them.

How do they reproduce so fast? Are they at the microscopic level where
the
naked eye might missed them?


Thanks,

Ruben


nah ya need a big one to have babies in your tank
then it like rains these little jellyfish things
that become new anemone

they arent so bad
poor apista get a bad rap on the net
personally I recon they are good for beginnners
just a pain for you pro's
kinda like convicts
heh

and yes I breed conesnails as well

good luck on the extermination btw
soak in fresh should have done the trick




-------
I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!

  #8  
Old February 14th 07, 08:55 AM posted to rec.aquaria.marine.reefs
swarvegorilla
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Default Aiptasia question

Well thats the real point then.
It's like in my planted tank.
If I let the iron levels drop I get algae that would scare a pleco
but any of the other planted tanks not under MH lighting
and without CO2 injection
rarely bloom with algae not matter how lazy I get.

The strange thing about many of my apista blooms
has been the amount that grow in low light areas of the tank
under rocks and stuff

In Australia there is an incredibly common fish
called a 'stripey' they will massacre apista's
and just about anything else including urchins
but they are a step up pretty wise (nice stripes!) from apista's

I think most reef keepers are prone to over reacting
they invest so much $$$ into their setups
that they are geared towards heading off problems
weeks and weeks before they could happen.
I mean thats great, but sometimes it's a lot of
hubba-loobah over nothing.

All I know is that if I had a big outbreak in a reef display
I'd be jabbing the things full of hot water
before ya could clean a cannister.
But anywhere else..... I kinda like them.
They can take abuse, need no special care
and it's rare they bloom enuf to hurt fish for me
I'll even admit to being sad when a hermit ate me oldest and largest one.
the one I used to feed live mollies.......
not anymore due to backlash
but anemones of all types are pretty cool to look at
Some are a lot more impressive than dodgy apista's
and many work better in the creations people are creating
But ones that come for free
don't die and even breed
are better than none at all.

Long live da Apista
if only to scare aquarists that deserve it
:-)

once at band camp..............
I got paid $50 an hour for 5 hours to pull apart a 6 foot reef
locate a pistol shrimp and re-assemble.
Person was terrafied it was a mantis despite me reassurance.
ah well, to be sure, to be sure!
woooooooooT!








"Wayne Sallee" wrote in message
ink.net...
I bet that tank was not as high quality of an environment as a good reef
tank :-) They grow fast in reef tanks with high intense lighting. Coper
banded butterfly fish take care of them pretty quickly though.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets


Tristan wrote on 2/9/2007 9:42 AM:
I agree. I had a tank with aip i it along with other stuff most foks
flush. Mojano, mantis shrimp, bristle worms, asternia stars, aiptasia,
as well as sundial snails. I do not have a problem controlling it and
it as well as other so called undesireables have never really been
anywhere near as bad a problem as most claim them to be.


On Fri, 9 Feb 2007 13:12:39 +1100, "swarvegorilla"
wrote:

"RubenD" wrote in message
. net...
Apparently I didn't get any on the tank (I hope).

But still wonder the chances....


Ruben


"RubenD" wrote in message
...
I got some caulerpa algae(was the only algae available to me) to
help with
the red algae (probably due to nitrates in the tank),
to my surprise, the bag not only had the caulerpa but about 25
small
aiptasias. I washed the algae with tap water to get rid of them
and left
the algae in a container until the next day when I put it on my
tank after
visual inspection.

My question is, would aiptasia survive a night on tap water, and
what
are
my chances of infecting my tank with them.

How do they reproduce so fast? Are they at the microscopic level
where the
naked eye might missed them?


Thanks,

Ruben


nah ya need a big one to have babies in your tank
then it like rains these little jellyfish things
that become new anemone

they arent so bad
poor apista get a bad rap on the net
personally I recon they are good for beginnners
just a pain for you pro's
kinda like convicts
heh

and yes I breed conesnails as well

good luck on the extermination btw
soak in fresh should have done the trick




-------
I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!



  #9  
Old February 14th 07, 01:44 PM posted to rec.aquaria.marine.reefs
Tristan
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Default Aiptasia question

It was merely a tank with some sand, live rock rubble consisting of
mainly pieces which were fragged out with aip or manjano anemones on
them. Allthe bristle worms and asternia stars and naaything else most
folks typically cull and flush........The tank had no special lighting
just a cheap 50/50 15 watt and it looks great........more typical of
an underwater view commonly encountered, off and away from a reef
environment.


On Wed, 14 Feb 2007 05:37:13 GMT, Wayne Sallee
wrote:

I bet that tank was not as high quality of an
environment as a good reef tank :-) They grow fast
in reef tanks with high intense lighting. Coper
banded butterfly fish take care of them pretty
quickly though.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets


Tristan wrote on 2/9/2007 9:42 AM:
I agree. I had a tank with aip i it along with other stuff most foks
flush. Mojano, mantis shrimp, bristle worms, asternia stars, aiptasia,
as well as sundial snails. I do not have a problem controlling it and
it as well as other so called undesireables have never really been
anywhere near as bad a problem as most claim them to be.


On Fri, 9 Feb 2007 13:12:39 +1100, "swarvegorilla"
wrote:


"RubenD" wrote in message
. net...
Apparently I didn't get any on the tank (I hope).

But still wonder the chances....


Ruben


"RubenD" wrote in message
...
I got some caulerpa algae(was the only algae available to me) to help
with
the red algae (probably due to nitrates in the tank),
to my surprise, the bag not only had the caulerpa but about 25 small
aiptasias. I washed the algae with tap water to get rid of them and
left
the algae in a container until the next day when I put it on my tank
after
visual inspection.

My question is, would aiptasia survive a night on tap water, and what
are
my chances of infecting my tank with them.

How do they reproduce so fast? Are they at the microscopic level where
the
naked eye might missed them?


Thanks,

Ruben


nah ya need a big one to have babies in your tank
then it like rains these little jellyfish things
that become new anemone

they arent so bad
poor apista get a bad rap on the net
personally I recon they are good for beginnners
just a pain for you pro's
kinda like convicts
heh

and yes I breed conesnails as well

good luck on the extermination btw
soak in fresh should have done the trick




-------
I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!



-------
I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!
  #10  
Old February 14th 07, 06:36 PM posted to rec.aquaria.marine.reefs
George Patterson
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Default Aiptasia question

Wayne Sallee wrote:
Coper
banded butterfly fish take care of them pretty quickly though.


The problem with that is that the copper band usually starves after eating all
the anemones.

George Patterson
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to anything.
 




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