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Old April 11th 07, 06:12 PM posted to rec.aquaria.marine.reefs
ONJ
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Default advice for new reef tank

I am going to take my first foray into a reef tank. I have done sal****er
over the last 10 years with just a simple undergravel filter and power
filter.

I acquired a 55 gallon system and my plan is to purchase 60 lbs of live
rock, not sure whether to use crushed coral or sand yet...and I am looking
at the Tom Aquatics PS3 protein skimmer/canister filter all in one.

Any suggestions? Words of wisdom? Anyone have an opinion on the PS3
skimmer/canister system?


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Old April 11th 07, 10:12 PM posted to rec.aquaria.marine.reefs
Wayne Sallee
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You want a calcium based sand, the finer the better.
Are you going reef?
As for your filter question, I'm not a big fan of
all in one deals.
If you are going reef, be sure and purchase a few
good books on reef keeping.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets


ONJ wrote on 4/11/2007 12:12 PM:
I am going to take my first foray into a reef tank. I have done sal****er
over the last 10 years with just a simple undergravel filter and power
filter.

I acquired a 55 gallon system and my plan is to purchase 60 lbs of live
rock, not sure whether to use crushed coral or sand yet...and I am looking
at the Tom Aquatics PS3 protein skimmer/canister filter all in one.

Any suggestions? Words of wisdom? Anyone have an opinion on the PS3
skimmer/canister system?


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Old April 11th 07, 10:33 PM posted to rec.aquaria.marine.reefs,rec.aquaria.freshwater.misc,rec.ponds,rec.aquaria.freshwater.plants
CanaDUH---Sucks!
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On Apr 11, 12:12 pm, "ONJ" wrote:
I am going to take my first foray into a reef tank. I have done sal****er
over the last 10 years with just a simple undergravel filter and power
filter.

I acquired a 55 gallon system and my plan is to purchase 60 lbs of live
rock, not sure whether to use crushed coral or sand yet...and I am looking
at the Tom Aquatics PS3 protein skimmer/canister filter all in one.

Any suggestions? Words of wisdom? Anyone have an opinion on the PS3
skimmer/canister system


Gt a ****ing grip Wayne. Evidently he doe snot have an ISP that
requires him / her to use a real name now does it. Nothing worse than
TheRock or Pszemol now is it. Would ylu feel much better if he /she
stated their name was John T. Hughs or suych. Your a real ****ing gem
there wayne, as everyone doe snot have to pay any attention to any so
called imposed rules in this ****ed up group..........You and the rest
of these nit wits should be glad yur at least getting a real poster
here and not a troll...........or would you all rather the trolls be
summoned back to give this screwed up group some credibility.


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Old April 12th 07, 01:54 AM posted to rec.aquaria.marine.reefs,rec.aquaria.freshwater.misc,rec.ponds,rec.aquaria.freshwater.plants
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On Apr 11, 12:12 pm, "ONJ" wrote:

I am going to take my first foray into a reef tank. I have done sal****er
over the last 10 years with just a simple undergravel filter and power
filter.


I acquired a 55 gallon system and my plan is to purchase 60 lbs of live
rock, not sure whether to use crushed coral or sand yet...and I am looking
at the Tom Aquatics PS3 protein skimmer/canister filter all in one.


Any suggestions? Words of wisdom? Anyone have an opinion on the PS3
skimmer/canister system


The CPR units are great, you can use anything similar on a 55 fairly
easy.
Good light is essential, lots of current etc.

I like DBS's and Refugiums over skimmers, but you can try both,
generally you will not get any skimmate if the refugium is running
correctly.

Regards,
Tom Barr



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Old April 12th 07, 03:52 AM posted to rec.aquaria.marine.reefs,rec.aquaria.freshwater.misc,rec.ponds,rec.aquaria.freshwater.plants
Pszemol
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wrote in message oups.com...
On Apr 11, 12:12 pm, "ONJ" wrote:


I am going to take my first foray into a reef tank. I have done sal****er
over the last 10 years with just a simple undergravel filter and power
filter.


I acquired a 55 gallon system and my plan is to purchase 60 lbs of live
rock, not sure whether to use crushed coral or sand yet...and I am looking
at the Tom Aquatics PS3 protein skimmer/canister filter all in one.


Any suggestions? Words of wisdom? Anyone have an opinion on the PS3
skimmer/canister system


The CPR units are great, you can use anything similar on a 55 fairly
easy.
Good light is essential, lots of current etc.

I like DBS's and Refugiums over skimmers, but you can try both,
generally you will not get any skimmate if the refugium is running
correctly.

Regards,
Tom Barr


Tom, why are you crossposting reef subject between freshwater forums??
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Old April 12th 07, 04:21 PM posted to rec.aquaria.marine.reefs,rec.aquaria.freshwater.misc,rec.ponds,rec.aquaria.freshwater.plants
ONJ
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wrote in message
oups.com...
On Apr 11, 12:12 pm, "ONJ" wrote:


I am going to take my first foray into a reef tank. I have done
sal****er
over the last 10 years with just a simple undergravel filter and power
filter.


I acquired a 55 gallon system and my plan is to purchase 60 lbs of live
rock, not sure whether to use crushed coral or sand yet...and I am
looking
at the Tom Aquatics PS3 protein skimmer/canister filter all in one.


Any suggestions? Words of wisdom? Anyone have an opinion on the PS3
skimmer/canister system


The CPR units are great, you can use anything similar on a 55 fairly
easy.
Good light is essential, lots of current etc.

I like DBS's and Refugiums over skimmers, but you can try both,
generally you will not get any skimmate if the refugium is running
correctly.

Regards,
Tom Barr


Ok..help me out here....what is a CPR unit and DBS?


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Old April 12th 07, 04:48 PM posted to rec.aquaria.marine.reefs,rec.aquaria.freshwater.misc,rec.ponds,rec.aquaria.freshwater.plants
~Windsong~[_2_]
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Default advice for new reef tank

Pszemol still being the dumbass he always has been.What makes you
think he is cross posting FW crap there dumbass?



wrote in message oups.com...
On Apr 11, 12:12 pm, "ONJ" wrote:

I am going to take my first foray into a reef tank. I have done sal****er
over the last 10 years with just a simple undergravel filter and power
filter.

I acquired a 55 gallon system and my plan is to purchase 60 lbs of live
rock, not sure whether to use crushed coral or sand yet...and I am looking
at the Tom Aquatics PS3 protein skimmer/canister filter all in one.

Any suggestions? Words of wisdom? Anyone have an opinion on the PS3
skimmer/canister system

The CPR units are great, you can use anything similar on a 55 fairly
easy.
Good light is essential, lots of current etc.

I like DBS's and Refugiums over skimmers, but you can try both,
generally you will not get any skimmate if the refugium is running
correctly.

Regards,
Tom Barr

Tom, why are you crossposting reef subject between freshwater forums??



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Old April 12th 07, 04:57 PM posted to rec.aquaria.marine.reefs
George Patterson
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ONJ wrote:

Ok..help me out here....what is a CPR unit and DBS?


A CPR is short for Creative Plastic Research. They make aquarium equipment. One
of their popular items is the "Backpak" skimmer. As for DBS, I suspect Tom meant
DSB, which is short for deep sand bed.

George Patterson
If you torture the data long enough, eventually it will confess
to anything.
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Old April 12th 07, 05:28 PM posted to rec.aquaria.marine.reefs
George Patterson
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Default advice for new reef tank

ONJ wrote:

I acquired a 55 gallon system and my plan is to purchase 60 lbs of live
rock, not sure whether to use crushed coral or sand yet...and I am looking
at the Tom Aquatics PS3 protein skimmer/canister filter all in one.


With a reef tank, sand is preferred; about 1" in the main tank. There are many
neat fish that prefer sand. Crushed coral is used mainly with undergravel
filtration, and you won't have that (I hope).

Usually, cannister filters aren't used with tanks that depend on live rock for
filtration. Typically you just set up some sort of water circulation system
capable of pumping the entire volume of your tank every five minutes (I your
case, at least 750 gallons per hour). This pushes the water around the rock and
gives it a chance to work. A protein skimmer handles the job of pulling crud out
of the water. A refugium is nice to have, and you may eventually need other
equipment (like phosphate or calcium reactors). The rock, a good circulation
pump, and a skimmer will do for now.

George Patterson
If you torture the data long enough, eventually it will confess
to anything.
 




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