octopus climbing out of tanks

On Fri, 13 Apr 2007, Pushmi-Pullyu wrote:

On Apr 13, 9:00 am, Bill Turlock "Bill Turlock
wrote:

Don't anthropomorphize the octupii, they hate that.
But, all seriousnes aside, I clearly remember seeing a film a
long time ago where an octupus would crawl out of its tank and
unscrew a mason jar with a food-critter in it. I suspect that
they are very intelligent. But not intelligent enough to avoid
getting caught.

You only think that because you don't know about the ones that haven't
been caught.

I'm reminded of the story about the study conducted on prisoners that
determined that criminals are generally of low intelligence.





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that the extent of our American lunatic fringe had been underestimated."
Orson Wells on the reaction to the _War Of The Worlds_ broadcast.

On Apr 13, 11:09 pm, Mike Williams wrote:
Well yes, we started from the idea that there are lots of friend-of-a-
friend type stories about this.

This thread has reached twenty-something (including one spam) and no
one has provided any video, or anything but hearsay, of an octopus
doing anything except going through a hole and another of fighting a
shark. For now, I'll have to conclude octopuses don't go on nighttime
excursions outside their aquariums.

I was just in a fish (for food) store, and I'm in Kansas, quite far
from an ocean. They had octopus for less than $3/pound. They must be
reasonably prevalent, and there must be people who buy them.
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(||) Nehmo (||)

Nehmo wrote on 4/15/2007 5:00 AM:
This thread has reached twenty-something (including one spam) and no
one has provided any video, or anything but hearsay, of an octopus
doing anything except going through a hole and another of fighting a
shark. For now, I'll have to conclude octopuses don't go on nighttime
excursions outside their aquariums.


Your right, it's a conspiracy. Octopus don't get out
of the aquariums. What is really happening is that
people are going to the aquariums in the night, and
grabbing the octopus out of the aquarium, and
throwing them on the floor, and claiming that they
got out. And the same thing is happening with fish
and crabs, and other critters as well.

hehehehehehehehe

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets

Nehmo wrote:

This thread has reached twenty-something (including one spam) and no
one has provided any video,

Buy it he

http://www.pbs.org/wnet/nature/octopus/

-paul

Nehmo wrote:

On Apr 13, 11:09 pm, Mike Williams wrote:
Well yes, we started from the idea that there are lots of friend-of-a-
friend type stories about this.

This thread has reached twenty-something (including one spam) and no
one has provided any video, or anything but hearsay, of an octopus
doing anything except going through a hole and another of fighting a
shark. For now, I'll have to conclude octopuses don't go on nighttime
excursions outside their aquariums.

I was just in a fish (for food) store, and I'm in Kansas, quite far
from an ocean. They had octopus for less than $3/pound. They must be
reasonably prevalent, and there must be people who buy them.


If you can't find it on YouTube, it doesn't exist.

At this point, there's no evidence of fish missing or wet floors. Yes,
people make things up. And people often elaborate on a true fact. I
believe octopuses open lids of aquariums. That's plausible. But
steeling from another aquarium and returning to their own, I'm afraid
it's an urban myth.

I would like to believe otherwise. As soon as you find some evidence,
let me know please.
--
(||) Nehmo (||)
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uOn Apr 15, 7:38 am, Wayne Sallee wrote:
Your right, it's a conspiracy. Octopus don't get out
of the aquariums. What is really happening is that
people are going to the aquariums in the night, and
grabbing the octopus out of the aquarium, and
throwing them on the floor, and claiming that they
got out. And the same thing is happening with fish
and crabs, and other critters as well.

hehehehehehehehe

Bill Turlock "Bill Turlock wrote:

Nehmo wrote:

That story seems to say the crabs would win against the octopus. I
suppose it depends on how big they were. But, yes, you're right,
there's no video. Certainly, videos back then were rare.

I'm beginning to conclude the traveling-oct story has no truth to it.
Since plenty of people keep them as aquarium subjects, behavior as
bizarre as this would have been better documented by now.

But they are strange and probably smarter than we give them credit
for. I knew a girl who used to take walks on Portuguese fishing boats.
She said there were piles of freshly-caught still-alive octopuses on
the deck. When you walked past, the octopuses would follow you with
their eyes. She said you could see the expression of resignation an
pleading in their eyes.


Don't anthropomorphize the octupii, they hate that.

But, all seriousnes aside, I clearly remember seeing a film a
long time ago where an octupus would crawl out of its tank and
unscrew a mason jar with a food-critter in it. I suspect that
they are very intelligent. But not intelligent enough to avoid
getting caught.

The version of that story that I'd heard was to prove that an octopus
could generalize from watching something. They left the screwtop jar
in one octopus tank and the octopus had no idea what to do with it.
Then, in an adjacent tank, they added an octopus that had been trained
to open such a jar to get at dinner. After watching a few times, the
"naive" octopus was able to open the jar, too.
--
Tomorrow is today already.
Greg Goss, 1989-01-27

Greg Goss wrote:

Bill Turlock "Bill Turlock wrote:

Nehmo wrote:

That story seems to say the crabs would win against the octopus. I
suppose it depends on how big they were. But, yes, you're right,
there's no video. Certainly, videos back then were rare.

I'm beginning to conclude the traveling-oct story has no truth to it.
Since plenty of people keep them as aquarium subjects, behavior as
bizarre as this would have been better documented by now.

But they are strange and probably smarter than we give them credit
for. I knew a girl who used to take walks on Portuguese fishing boats.
She said there were piles of freshly-caught still-alive octopuses on
the deck. When you walked past, the octopuses would follow you with
their eyes. She said you could see the expression of resignation an
pleading in their eyes.


Don't anthropomorphize the octupii, they hate that.

But, all seriousnes aside, I clearly remember seeing a film a
long time ago where an octupus would crawl out of its tank and
unscrew a mason jar with a food-critter in it. I suspect that
they are very intelligent. But not intelligent enough to avoid
getting caught.

The version of that story that I'd heard was to prove that an octopus
could generalize from watching something. They left the screwtop jar
in one octopus tank and the octopus had no idea what to do with it.
Then, in an adjacent tank, they added an octopus that had been trained
to open such a jar to get at dinner. After watching a few times, the
"naive" octopus was able to open the jar, too.


OK. Then, what I remember is an octopus and a screw-top jar.

"Nehmo" wrote ...

I was just in a fish (for food) store, and I'm in Kansas, quite far
from an ocean. They had octopus for less than $3/pound. They must be
reasonably prevalent, and there must be people who buy them.
--

Obviously, a number of folks migrating to Kansas have carried along one of
the necessary components for octopus, the eating thereof....

The large and traditional rock upon which to slap repeatedly the slimy
boogers for pre-culinary tenderizing. A concrete back step/stoop works but
gives up the flavors of all what have trod upon it, and a large coastal
boulder is preferable.

A dozen good licks, a sharp knife and a dab hand at the sauté pan and such
dishes as "pulpos y arroz en tinta" become possible, even on Tuesday night.
"En escabeche", a sort of traditional tapas, is but the labor of moments.

TM "Ola, Cantinero. Saddle my horse." Oliver

"Nehmo" wrote in message
ups.com...
There are mentions on the web of an octopus climbing out of a tank,
traveling across a dry surface, going into another tank, grabbing a
fish for a meal, and then returning to their home tank. Some web-
comments say there is a video that was on TV. But I haven't found
anything like it on the web. Is this behavior possible? Is this story
true?

--
(||) Nehmo (||)



In my experience, when octopus climb out of tanks, they die on the floor.
Got no bones ya see.
Yes I can see them moving accross into another tank on same rack
but once they drop to the floor
they are almost a jellyfish
So while it may have happened
I assure ya, most octopus that escape tanks, die pretty close to where they
land.
:-)