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Old April 19th 07, 05:11 PM posted to rec.aquaria.marine.reefs
Peter Pan
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Default New Set Up.



1. Would a skimmer be required in a tank of this size or is that more
dependant on stocking levels ? If so, will a Aqua-Medic Miniflotor
Skimmer be man enough - quoted for use upto a 200 litre tank !!


Each Skimmer is rated for the tank, make sure yours is the right Tank size
ie Some say up to 75 gal or something similar

2. Do I need a steriliser ?


No. You don't want to kill the good bacteria

3 Would a sump setup be a better option right from the word go ?

IMHO it's a matter of preference. If you want to hide your filters / heaters
then do it. If you're is like mine, with the filter hiddne behind a wall,
then I dont see why you would want it

4. Are they any downfalls or issues in using this type of setup /
filtration that I should be aware of ?


Yes Nitrate build up, I would use a canister without Bio Media, the Live
rock with act as a bio (After your tank cycles) and will help your Nitrate
stay low

When you set up the tank, you should use a deep sand bed for the substrate
( about 4 inches), unlike a fresh water tank, when you do your partials, you
try not to disturb the sand. You can place the LR ontop of the sand, let the
tank cycle before adding any fish ( Make sure ammonia and Nitrites are zero)
This make take a few weeks. During this time, get yourself a good reef book
and read it, then get another and read that. You don't need corals right
away, it sounds like you want a Fish only with Live rock (FOWLR) Lighting is
not as important as its when you add corals. as far as fish buying if you
are using RODI make sure your local fish store is also using RODI if they
are not, go someplace else. This link is a useful guide for New Tanks
owners for compatibility
http://www.liveaquaria.com/general/c...lity_chart.cfm

When you get stuck you can post ur problem here, and wait for a response,,
you're looking for the most consistant asnwers ( everyone has a differnt
opinion on how to do things in here)
Good luck


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Old April 20th 07, 11:56 PM posted to rec.aquaria.marine.reefs
Wayne Sallee
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Default New Set Up.

Only place the live rock on top of the sand if you
only have a few pieces of live rock. If you are
going to stack the rock, then put base rock on the
glass, and put your sand around that, and then stack
your live rock on top of the base rock. Don't build
your house on the shifting sand.

Also that sand is best if it is a calcium based sand.

Also get some good books and do some reading. Books
are always a good investment in this hobby.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets


Peter Pan wrote on 4/19/2007 11:11 AM:

When you set up the tank, you should use a deep sand bed for the substrate
( about 4 inches), unlike a fresh water tank, when you do your partials, you
try not to disturb the sand. You can place the LR ontop of the sand, let the
tank cycle before adding any fish ( Make sure ammonia and Nitrites are zero)
This make take a few weeks. During this time, get yourself a good reef book
and read it, then get another and read that. You don't need corals right
away, it sounds like you want a Fish only with Live rock (FOWLR) Lighting is
not as important as its when you add corals. as far as fish buying if you
are using RODI make sure your local fish store is also using RODI if they
are not, go someplace else. This link is a useful guide for New Tanks
owners for compatibility
http://www.liveaquaria.com/general/c...lity_chart.cfm
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Old April 22nd 07, 02:14 PM posted to rec.aquaria.marine.reefs
KurtG
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Default New Set Up.

Wayne Sallee wrote:
Only place the live rock on top of the sand if you only have a few
pieces of live rock. If you are going to stack the rock, then put base
rock on the glass, and put your sand around that, and then stack your
live rock on top of the base rock. Don't build your house on the
shifting sand.


I've heard of people putting egg crate on the bottom/back and then
stacking rock on that. The advantage is that you can glue the rock to
the egg crate, but still be able to remove it at a later point.

I've always thought egg crate was the bumpy foam pads that are used for
packaging (or for sleeping on while camping) that resembles both the
size and shape of egg crates. But apparently, it's also the name for
the translucent plastic sheets with small bumps used for fluorescent or
commercial light fixtures that can be found at lowe's and home depot in
the lighting section.

Just an idea if you building a large landscape and need it to be stable.

btw, the reason sand shifts is because of all the shrimps, fish, etc
that burrow in the sand under the rock to build caves. My blue damsels
have been very busy lately. And, my clownfish was also building a nest.
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Old April 22nd 07, 05:23 PM posted to rec.aquaria.marine.reefs
George Patterson
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Default New Set Up.

KurtG wrote:

I've always thought egg crate was the bumpy foam pads that are used for
packaging (or for sleeping on while camping) that resembles both the
size and shape of egg crates. But apparently, it's also the name for
the translucent plastic sheets with small bumps used for fluorescent or
commercial light fixtures that can be found at lowe's and home depot in
the lighting section.


Nope. It's the name of the grids with square holes used for light fixtures.

http://www.plaskolite.com/lighting-panels.htm

George Patterson
If you torture the data long enough, eventually it will confess
to anything.
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Old April 23rd 07, 12:27 PM posted to rec.aquaria.marine.reefs
KurtG
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Default New Set Up.

George Patterson wrote:
Nope. It's the name of the grids with square holes used for light fixtures.


Thanks! Must be small birds to put there eggs in there.
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Old April 24th 07, 10:24 PM posted to rec.aquaria.marine.reefs
Wayne Sallee
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Default New Set Up.

LOL and the light would help keep the eggs warm :-)

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets


KurtG wrote on 4/23/2007 6:27 AM:
George Patterson wrote:
Nope. It's the name of the grids with square holes used for light fixtures.


Thanks! Must be small birds to put there eggs in there.

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Old April 24th 07, 10:27 PM posted to rec.aquaria.marine.reefs
Wayne Sallee
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Default New Set Up.

Other than misidentifying the egg crate :-) , yes
you can put the egg crate down, and put the live
rock on top of that, though I'm not a big fan of
that method. But even still, if you do that you
still will have sand above the bottom of the base
rock if you want any kind of depth of sand in the
tank, unless you want to stack egg crate on top of
egg crate.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets


KurtG wrote on 4/22/2007 8:14 AM:
Wayne Sallee wrote:
Only place the live rock on top of the sand if you only have a few
pieces of live rock. If you are going to stack the rock, then put base
rock on the glass, and put your sand around that, and then stack your
live rock on top of the base rock. Don't build your house on the
shifting sand.


I've heard of people putting egg crate on the bottom/back and then
stacking rock on that. The advantage is that you can glue the rock to
the egg crate, but still be able to remove it at a later point.

I've always thought egg crate was the bumpy foam pads that are used for
packaging (or for sleeping on while camping) that resembles both the
size and shape of egg crates. But apparently, it's also the name for
the translucent plastic sheets with small bumps used for fluorescent or
commercial light fixtures that can be found at lowe's and home depot in
the lighting section.

Just an idea if you building a large landscape and need it to be stable.

btw, the reason sand shifts is because of all the shrimps, fish, etc
that burrow in the sand under the rock to build caves. My blue damsels
have been very busy lately. And, my clownfish was also building a nest.

 




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