HELP!!! it's ICK

On Mar 21, 1:15*pm, "DEM via PetKB.com" u42059@uwe wrote:
THX FOR THE GREAT ADVICE.just ont more quetion , Im use to keeping salt with
my mollies but im always afriad if i put to much how much shuld i put in per
gal .... i also keep black skirt tertras, and redwag platies , i wouldnt want
to harm any of my other fish but my mollies are down to only 2 . all my fish
are i the " tropical community" and need salt but how much is too much? btw
what is "brackish water" i must be stupid to not know but ive hever can
across the term....





ExPat wrote:
umm how about the comunity tank did i take it out with one dose thx 4 the
advice ....
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to be a betta-related virus only), and died.
It's a hard lesson to learn, and even harder when you know better.

Mollies are in that gorup of fish that is sold as freshwater with
advice to add salt. Welltruth be known mollies are a brackish water
fish and they actually do better in full strength sal****er thanthey
do freshwater. They are known ICH magnets, but that affliction goes
away if they are kept in water with a SG of 1.020 or so. Yes, 1.020 is
above what brackish water salinity is considered, and in closer to
full sal****er without corals,, but they do better in salted water for
sure. Ich at that SG is almost non exisitent and they look so much
more better. I routinely kept a school of mmollies at 1.026 sg for use
as live food for my lion fish and snowflake eel. I acclimate lots of
various fish sold as freshwater fish to sal****er and they do so m uch
better. ONe example is the green puffers and spotted and figure eight
puffers. They are great when acclimated and kept in 1.023 or greater
salt water..........I quite keeping mollies and swords mainly due to
their susecptibility of catching ICH.........then I found out about
keeping them in sal****er and its *a totally different story
now........With salta or brackish water you do not have a lot of the
problems encountered with freshwater but do acquire a few new problems
in place of those you did not get, but its still well worth the effort
for keeping them in sal****er over freshwater.

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One thing you need to be aware of with salt. As water evporates and
you add more water the salt level will always remain the same. Salt
does not leave the water with evaporation. NOw if your used to adding
salt evcery so often say adding salt with each water change or so,
your actually building up the salt level, and you can get a salt level
to be extremely high. Its bnest if you have a hydrometer or
refractometer to read the salt content, or make note of how high the
water level is, and always top off the water to that level before
doing a water change. Then if your removing and changing say 5 gal of
water youcan add the amount of salt required in that 5 gal of water
and then add that to the tank and your SG willbe the same as it was
previously. Ifyou do not bring water up to the normal level and then
do a water change over a period of time your SG will become much
higher overall. I wuold look at a swingarm hydrometer or
refractometer if yuor dealing with brackish water or sal****er fish
and adding any amount of salt to any fish aquarium.

well when i clean the water i do a 40 -60 percent water change and add the
salt to the water and treat the water before i put it in and i top it off
with water with out salt so there is not a build up of salt for the
evaporation were can i get the other salt or can i get it at any local
petsmart.

ExPat wrote:
THX FOR THE GREAT ADVICE.just ont more quetion , Im use to keeping salt with
my mollies but im always afriad if i put to much how much shuld i put in per
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One thing you need to be aware of with salt. As water evporates and
you add more water the salt level will always remain the same. Salt
does not leave the water with evaporation. NOw if your used to adding
salt evcery so often say adding salt with each water change or so,
your actually building up the salt level, and you can get a salt level
to be extremely high. Its bnest if you have a hydrometer or
refractometer to read the salt content, or make note of how high the
water level is, and always top off the water to that level before
doing a water change. Then if your removing and changing say 5 gal of
water youcan add the amount of salt required in that 5 gal of water
and then add that to the tank and your SG willbe the same as it was
previously. Ifyou do not bring water up to the normal level and then
do a water change over a period of time your SG will become much
higher overall. I wuold look at a swingarm hydrometer or
refractometer if yuor dealing with brackish water or sal****er fish
and adding any amount of salt to any fish aquarium.

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On Mar 21, 11:45*pm, "DEM via PetKB.com" u42059@uwe wrote:
well when i clean the water i do a 40 -60 percent water change and add the
salt to the water and treat the water before i put it in and i top it off
with water with out salt so there is not a build up of salt for the
evaporation were can i get the other salt or can i get it at any local
petsmart.





ExPat wrote:
THX FOR THE GREAT ADVICE.just ont more quetion , Im use to keeping salt with
my mollies but im always afriad if i put to much how much shuld i put in per
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One thing you need to be aware of with salt. As water evporates and
you add more water the salt level will always remain the same. Salt
does not leave the water with evaporation. NOw if your used to adding
salt evcery so often say adding salt with each water change or so,
your actually building up the salt level, and you can get a salt level
to be extremely high. *Its bnest if you have a hydrometer *or
refractometer to read the salt content, or make note of how high the
water level is, and always top off the water to that level before
doing a water change. Then if your removing and changing say 5 gal of
water youcan add the amount of salt required in that 5 gal of water
and then add that to the tank and your SG willbe the same as it was
previously. Ifyou do not bring water up to the normal level and then
do a water change over a period of time your SG will become much
higher overall. *I wuold look at a swingarm hydrometer or
refractometer if yuor dealing with brackish water or sal****er fish
and adding any amount of salt to any fish aquarium.

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You still need to be able to see what the specific gravity (SG) of the
salt content of your water is..........otherwise your shooting inthe
dark. Any decent pet shop ought to have various sized packs of
synthetic salt if your going to make brackish water. Instant Ocean has
10 gal packs as well as 5 gal packs, and there is a lot of various
other companies that also have 5 gal packs and up.