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Old July 29th 08, 04:37 PM posted to rec.aquaria.marine.reefs
NoSpam
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"no-spam" wrote in message
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IMHO, you should just put the live sand alongside with "brand new"
sand without churning and turning in an attempt to mix them
together. Given time, nature will take its course, where organism
from live sand will infiltrate into the new. The idea is to keep the
existing organism as much as possible within its existing favorable
conditions that have kept them alive and to grow outwards into new
territories.

Other experienced reefers may have a different take.

Good luck!


I was wondering if I could mix the LS with the white sterilized kids
playbox sand? And using white Fuji sand. I never had LS before. Any
idea of where I can get a calculator to figure out how pounds of sand
for the size of the tank?

BTW, I live in the City of SD (North Park), where you at?


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Old July 29th 08, 06:24 PM posted to rec.aquaria.marine.reefs
Don Geddis
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"NoSpam" wrote on Tue, 29 Jul 2008:
I was wondering if I could mix the LS with the white sterilized kids
playbox sand?


Yes. Although, don't "mix" it. Just put the playbox sand in one part, and
the real live sand in another part. The ecosystem will grow and colonize the
dead stuff.

And using white Fuji sand.


Even better (finer grained) than playbox sand.

BTW, I live in the City of SD (North Park), where you at?


State? Country? You realize this is an international newsgroup, don't you?

-- Don
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Old July 30th 08, 06:17 PM posted to rec.aquaria.marine.reefs
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"Don Geddis" wrote in message
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"NoSpam" wrote on Tue, 29 Jul 2008:
I was wondering if I could mix the LS with the white sterilized
kids
playbox sand?


Yes. Although, don't "mix" it. Just put the playbox sand in one
part, and
the real live sand in another part. The ecosystem will grow and
colonize the
dead stuff.

And using white Fuji sand.


Even better (finer grained) than playbox sand.

BTW, I live in the City of SD (North Park), where you at?


State? Country? You realize this is an international newsgroup,
don't you?


Duh. I thought I was in another group. Thanks for the info on the
sand.


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Old July 30th 08, 02:49 AM posted to rec.aquaria.marine.reefs
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NoSpam wrote:
"no-spam" wrote in message
...
IMHO, you should just put the live sand alongside with "brand new"
sand without churning and turning in an attempt to mix them
together. Given time, nature will take its course, where organism
from live sand will infiltrate into the new. The idea is to keep the
existing organism as much as possible within its existing favorable
conditions that have kept them alive and to grow outwards into new
territories.

Other experienced reefers may have a different take.

Good luck!


I was wondering if I could mix the LS with the white sterilized kids
playbox sand? And using white Fuji sand. I never had LS before. Any
idea of where I can get a calculator to figure out how pounds of sand
for the size of the tank?

BTW, I live in the City of SD (North Park), where you at?


You want a 3-4" deep sand bed. How ever many bags depends on how big
your tank is. I would measure your tank then bring the detentions to the
store and ask the local fish guy how much you need to make the DSB.
Remember to put your rock in first then add the sand.. you may also want
to rinse the regular sand first before putting it in the tank. The Sand
will cloud up, make sure you have the water circulating. It will clear
up in a couple of days..
Good luck
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Old July 30th 08, 06:24 PM posted to rec.aquaria.marine.reefs
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"Peter Pan" wrote in message
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NoSpam wrote:
"no-spam" wrote in message
...
IMHO, you should just put the live sand alongside with "brand new"
sand without churning and turning in an attempt to mix them
together. Given time, nature will take its course, where organism
from live sand will infiltrate into the new. The idea is to keep
the existing organism as much as possible within its existing
favorable conditions that have kept them alive and to grow
outwards into new territories.

Other experienced reefers may have a different take.

Good luck!


I was wondering if I could mix the LS with the white sterilized
kids playbox sand? And using white Fuji sand. I never had LS
before. Any idea of where I can get a calculator to figure out how
pounds of sand for the size of the tank?

BTW, I live in the City of SD (North Park), where you at?

You want a 3-4" deep sand bed. How ever many bags depends on how big
your tank is. I would measure your tank then bring the detentions to
the store and ask the local fish guy how much you need to make the
DSB. Remember to put your rock in first then add the sand.. you may
also want to rinse the regular sand first before putting it in the
tank. The Sand will cloud up, make sure you have the water
circulating. It will clear up in a couple of days..
Good luck


I read a trick about this. Get a long funnel and use that to apply
sand to the bottom of the tank. And a filter bag tied on the end of
the overflow pipe.
Also, if your adding water to an empty tank, use a dinner plate and
the water will not stir the bottom (if you don't have a sump).


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Old July 30th 08, 08:05 PM posted to rec.aquaria.marine.reefs
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On Jul 30, 12:24*pm, "NoSpam" wrote:
"Peter Pan" wrote in message

...





NoSpam wrote:
"no-spam" wrote in message
...
IMHO, you should just put the live sand alongside with "brand new"
sand without churning and turning in an attempt to mix them
together. Given time, nature will take its course, where organism
from live sand will infiltrate into the new. The idea is to keep
the existing organism as much as possible within its existing
favorable conditions that have kept them alive and to grow
outwards into new territories.


Other experienced reefers may have a different take.


Good luck!


I was wondering if I could mix the LS with the white sterilized
kids playbox sand? And using white Fuji sand. I never had LS
before. Any idea of where I can get a calculator to figure out how
pounds of sand for the size of the tank?


BTW, I live in the City of SD (North Park), where you at?

You want a 3-4" deep sand bed. How ever many bags depends on how big
your tank is. I would measure your tank then bring the detentions to
the store and ask the local fish guy how much you need to make the
DSB. Remember to put your rock in first then add the sand.. you may
also want to rinse the regular sand first before putting it in the
tank. The Sand will cloud up, make sure you have the water
circulating. It will clear up in a couple of days..
Good luck


I read a trick about this. Get a long funnel and use that to apply
sand to the bottom of the tank. And a filter bag tied on the end of
the overflow pipe.
Also, if your adding water to an empty tank, use a dinner plate and
the water will not stir the bottom (if you don't have a sump).- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Just use a length of PVC pipe or a zip lock baggie, fill with some
water from the tank after you fill it with sand and submerge baggie to
bottom and unzip it and allow to flow out.


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Old July 31st 08, 08:05 PM posted to rec.aquaria.marine.reefs
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"expat" wrote in message Just use
a length of PVC pipe or a zip lock baggie, fill with some
water from the tank after you fill it with sand and submerge baggie to
bottom and unzip it and allow to flow out.

----------------------------
Thanks for the zip bag. I just thought of silicone and a 1" PVC with a
wide kitchen funnel glued in




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Old August 1st 08, 12:48 PM posted to rec.aquaria.marine.reefs
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On Jul 31, 2:05*pm, "NoSpam" wrote:
"expat" wrote in message Just use

a length of PVC pipe or a zip lock baggie, fill with some
water from the tank after you fill it with sand and submerge baggie to
bottom and unzip it and allow to flow out.

----------------------------
Thanks for the zip bag. I just thought of silicone and a 1" PVC with a
wide kitchen funnel glued in


Goihng way way overboard with glueing in a funnel etc . Its not hard
to add sand directly into a piece of PVC pipe, or even fill a plastic
container up and submerge into tank and postion where needed and tilt
it over and let it trickle out. The zip lock baggie is about as
simple and easy as it gets.....short of dumping it in the tank gets.

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Old August 1st 08, 07:46 PM posted to rec.aquaria.marine.reefs
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"expat" wrote in message
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On Jul 31, 2:05 pm, "NoSpam" wrote:
"expat" wrote in message Just
use

a length of PVC pipe or a zip lock baggie, fill with some
water from the tank after you fill it with sand and submerge baggie
to
bottom and unzip it and allow to flow out.

----------------------------
Thanks for the zip bag. I just thought of silicone and a 1" PVC with
a
wide kitchen funnel glued in


Goihng way way overboard with glueing in a funnel etc . Its not hard
to add sand directly into a piece of PVC pipe, or even fill a plastic
container up and submerge into tank and postion where needed and tilt
it over and let it trickle out. The zip lock baggie is about as
simple and easy as it gets.....short of dumping it in the tank gets.
-------------------------------------------------------------

Yeah, your right. I have a tendency to go overboard. Thanks for the
smack on the head





 




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