additional aeration?

Hello Everyone,

I have a 29 gallon SW tank that has been up and running for about 7 months
now. I have 2 damsels, one common clown, 1 cleaner shrimp, an astrea snail
and a hermit crab.

My filter is a Marineland 170 filter with biowheel. The temp stays around
77 and the specific gravity is maintained at 1.023.

I finally bought a protein skimmer over the weekend (Red Sea Prizm Skimmer).
I was very excited to get it up and running (especially when I saw all of
the gunk it skims out of the water). I hope this means I won't have to do
those 50% water changes every single week now!

Anyway, my question is this...when I bought the skimmer at the LFS, I asked
the guy helping me if the skimmer added any additional aeration to the tank,
and if so could I remove my airstone. He said absolutely, but I'm nervous
and wanted a second opinion. I don't want to deprive my pets of oxygen. Do
my filter and protein skimmer provide enough aeration to the tank, or should
I put the airstone back in?

Any advice would be appreciated...

Thanks!

Mer

in a salt water setup I never use airstones. a skimmer does create a great
amount of gas exchange within the aquarium so the lfs told you correct. but
if your concern is the gas exchange then point your power head (if you have
one) or any pump so that it causes surface agitation, this is the best way
to get what your after. and you don't get the salt creep like with an
airstone.

kc

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Hello Everyone,

I have a 29 gallon SW tank that has been up and running for about 7 months
now. I have 2 damsels, one common clown, 1 cleaner shrimp, an astrea
snail
and a hermit crab.

My filter is a Marineland 170 filter with biowheel. The temp stays around
77 and the specific gravity is maintained at 1.023.

I finally bought a protein skimmer over the weekend (Red Sea Prizm
Skimmer).
I was very excited to get it up and running (especially when I saw all of
the gunk it skims out of the water). I hope this means I won't have to do
those 50% water changes every single week now!

Anyway, my question is this...when I bought the skimmer at the LFS, I
asked
the guy helping me if the skimmer added any additional aeration to the
tank,
and if so could I remove my airstone. He said absolutely, but I'm nervous
and wanted a second opinion. I don't want to deprive my pets of oxygen.
Do
my filter and protein skimmer provide enough aeration to the tank, or
should
I put the airstone back in?

Any advice would be appreciated...

Thanks!

Mer

I finally bought a protein skimmer over the weekend (Red Sea Prizm Skimmer).
I was very excited to get it up and running (especially when I saw all of
the gunk it skims out of the water). I hope this means I won't have to do
those 50% water changes every single week now!

it very well could, the scarry part is why are you doing such a high waterchange so often,
you shouldnt need but 10% weekly or 20% bi-weekly even in a system w/o denitrification,
its either excessive or you have a problem you forgot to mention.

Anyway, my question is this...when I bought the skimmer at the LFS, I asked
the guy helping me if the skimmer added any additional aeration to the tank,
and if so could I remove my airstone. He said absolutely, but I'm nervous
and wanted a second opinion. I don't want to deprive my pets of oxygen. Do
my filter and protein skimmer provide enough aeration to the tank, or should
I put the airstone back in?

owning a bio wheel in the first place cuts your need for an airstone/directed powerhead
significantly

the first steps towards processing waste require oxygen, rapidly out competing any fish
needs. in your case there being done on a device that is not submerged which is the only
way to prevent some level of competition for oxygen with the fish this is why/how bio
wheels do such a good job, plus they generally pour into the tank moving the water at the
surface, even without the benifit from the bio wheel, any HOB filter will move enough
oxygen for your 29 with low bio load.

the most likely bad advice was from the one that said you *need* it for oxygen exchange.
the only possible exception i can think of is if you ran a plennum, in which it wasnt bad
advice, just advice with a gap of information that you were either to new to process, or
were not informed about. if you went to any of MY lfs's the later would be way more true.


HTH
--
richard reynolds

I have about 175 gallon (if I do not mistake 700 litre ) and I have
this wonderfoul hobby from 20 yars ago
I have a classic under sand filtre with 2 pomp that flow every 4 our
.. So that une time flow in a directions and the the second time in
the contrari . I have tre areator one inside the first enter
biofilter of schell and the second in filter of outside with active
carbon and the third in hart of aquarim
Now I have a splendit imperator fish that are changed the skin ( is the
third . when become adult I resell it )
I have very little number of fish 5 and I have not problem .
Hi
from italy sorry for mistake
leonardo

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Hello Everyone,

I have a 29 gallon SW tank that has been up and running for about 7 months
now. I have 2 damsels, one common clown, 1 cleaner shrimp, an astrea
snail
and a hermit crab.

My filter is a Marineland 170 filter with biowheel. The temp stays around
77 and the specific gravity is maintained at 1.023.

I finally bought a protein skimmer over the weekend (Red Sea Prizm
Skimmer).
I was very excited to get it up and running (especially when I saw all of
the gunk it skims out of the water). I hope this means I won't have to do
those 50% water changes every single week now!

Anyway, my question is this...when I bought the skimmer at the LFS, I
asked
the guy helping me if the skimmer added any additional aeration to the
tank,
and if so could I remove my airstone. He said absolutely, but I'm nervous
and wanted a second opinion. I don't want to deprive my pets of oxygen.
Do
my filter and protein skimmer provide enough aeration to the tank, or
should
I put the airstone back in?

Any advice would be appreciated...

Thanks!

Mer

Hello Richard.
What does "HOB filter " mean ?
Thanks.
JCD

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"richard reynolds" wrote in message
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I finally bought a protein skimmer over the weekend (Red Sea Prizm
Skimmer).
I was very excited to get it up and running (especially when I saw all
of
the gunk it skims out of the water). I hope this means I won't have to
do
those 50% water changes every single week now!

it very well could, the scarry part is why are you doing such a high
waterchange so often,
you shouldnt need but 10% weekly or 20% bi-weekly even in a system w/o
denitrification,
its either excessive or you have a problem you forgot to mention.

Anyway, my question is this...when I bought the skimmer at the LFS, I
asked
the guy helping me if the skimmer added any additional aeration to the
tank,
and if so could I remove my airstone. He said absolutely, but I'm
nervous
and wanted a second opinion. I don't want to deprive my pets of oxygen.
Do
my filter and protein skimmer provide enough aeration to the tank, or
should
I put the airstone back in?

owning a bio wheel in the first place cuts your need for an
airstone/directed powerhead
significantly

the first steps towards processing waste require oxygen, rapidly out
competing any fish
needs. in your case there being done on a device that is not submerged
which is the only
way to prevent some level of competition for oxygen with the fish this is
why/how bio
wheels do such a good job, plus they generally pour into the tank moving
the water at the
surface, even without the benifit from the bio wheel, any HOB filter will
move enough
oxygen for your 29 with low bio load.

the most likely bad advice was from the one that said you *need* it for
oxygen exchange.
the only possible exception i can think of is if you ran a plennum, in
which it wasnt bad
advice, just advice with a gap of information that you were either to new
to process, or
were not informed about. if you went to any of MY lfs's the later would be
way more true.


HTH
--
richard reynolds

Hang On Back

kc

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Hello Richard.
What does "HOB filter " mean ?
Thanks.
JCD

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"richard reynolds" wrote in message
news
I finally bought a protein skimmer over the weekend (Red Sea Prizm
Skimmer).
I was very excited to get it up and running (especially when I saw all
of
the gunk it skims out of the water). I hope this means I won't have
to
do
those 50% water changes every single week now!

it very well could, the scarry part is why are you doing such a high
waterchange so often,
you shouldnt need but 10% weekly or 20% bi-weekly even in a system w/o
denitrification,
its either excessive or you have a problem you forgot to mention.

Anyway, my question is this...when I bought the skimmer at the LFS, I
asked
the guy helping me if the skimmer added any additional aeration to the
tank,
and if so could I remove my airstone. He said absolutely, but I'm
nervous
and wanted a second opinion. I don't want to deprive my pets of
oxygen.
Do
my filter and protein skimmer provide enough aeration to the tank, or
should
I put the airstone back in?

owning a bio wheel in the first place cuts your need for an
airstone/directed powerhead
significantly

the first steps towards processing waste require oxygen, rapidly out
competing any fish
needs. in your case there being done on a device that is not submerged
which is the only
way to prevent some level of competition for oxygen with the fish this
is
why/how bio
wheels do such a good job, plus they generally pour into the tank moving
the water at the
surface, even without the benifit from the bio wheel, any HOB filter
will
move enough
oxygen for your 29 with low bio load.

the most likely bad advice was from the one that said you *need* it for
oxygen exchange.
the only possible exception i can think of is if you ran a plennum, in
which it wasnt bad
advice, just advice with a gap of information that you were either to
new
to process, or
were not informed about. if you went to any of MY lfs's the later would
be
way more true.


HTH
--
richard reynolds

sorry HOB == hang on back

the typical filter that sits on the back of the tank with a tube that sucks water from the
tank and usually returns it through some kind of waterfall
pinguins,aquaclears, tetra has one, there simple, usually complete filtration
(mechanical,chemical,biological) , generally good for FW tanks, there use in SW is
specific to what kind of tank your keeping or interested in keeping.

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richard reynolds

Thanks for the advice, everyone!

By the way, my massive weekly water changes are my attempt to keep the
cyanobacteria and algae from taking over my tank (it's been a losing battle
so far). Hopefully the protein skimmer will help. I've had it for a couple
of weeks now, and I'm cutting back to 20% weekly water changes.

Mer

"richard reynolds" wrote in message
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sorry HOB == hang on back

the typical filter that sits on the back of the tank with a tube that
sucks water from the
tank and usually returns it through some kind of waterfall
pinguins,aquaclears, tetra has one, there simple, usually complete
filtration
(mechanical,chemical,biological) , generally good for FW tanks, there use
in SW is
specific to what kind of tank your keeping or interested in keeping.

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richard reynolds