live food for africans?

Racf wrote:

I do not recall anyone advocating a high protein/fat diet at all. I do
recall folks advocating a herbivore only diet, which is probably not at
all a factual diet in the wild. Seems like you were a cheerleader for
the latter.

Glad to see you see the light now...

Umm... what world were you reading my posts in? Apparently not the same
one that I wrote it in. For that matter, do we forget our own words?
Here's a refresher course. The following is the line from your post that
motivated me to reply:

Racf wrote:
If all there was to eat was buffalo chips, I imagine
anyone that liked them woud do quite well

This prompted me to reply because such a diet is carnivorous and high in
fat/protein. While I recognize you were not being literal about feeding
fish buffalo chips, it still seemed to say that a carnivorous diet was
fine and dandy for carnivore. That is why I had quite substantial replies
about the biology of the fish, but never did I say it had to be algae and
nothing else. In case you need a refresher, here's some snippets from my
posts. From my first post:

Cichlidiot wrote:
The occasional invertebrate inadvertantly caught with the algae will
not upset the intestinal tract to a great deal, but a primarily meat
diet will.

And from my second post:

Cichlidiot wrote:
Everything I've read about mbuna suggests that they do not have the
capacity (ie the digestive enzymes and so on) to live on a diet
consisting of mostly carnivorous foods without some serious digestive
side-effects, such as bloat. The occasional intake may be tolerated,
but not a constant diet of such food.

So as you can see from those snippets, both of my posts on this thread
said it was fine for the OCCASIONAL introduction of non-herbivorous foods.
I was never a "cheerleader" for only feeding them algae as you seem to
think. I have always "seen the light" when it comes to the fact that they
will intake such foods on occasion in the wild. My point was while it is
fine to feed such foods occasionally, the bulk of the diet should be
herbivorous since this replicates their natural diet. My motivation was to
be a counterbalance to your posts which seemed to advocate a carnivorous
diet for a fish is an herbivore.

Next time get your facts straight before you post such a gloating post as
this one.

"Cichlidiot" wrote in message
...
Racf wrote:

I do not recall anyone advocating a high protein/fat diet at all. I
do
recall folks advocating a herbivore only diet, which is probably not
at
all a factual diet in the wild. Seems like you were a cheerleader
for
the latter.

Glad to see you see the light now...

Umm... what world were you reading my posts in? Apparently not the
same
one that I wrote it in. For that matter, do we forget our own words?
Here's a refresher course. The following is the line from your post
that
motivated me to reply:

Racf wrote:
If all there was to eat was buffalo chips, I imagine
anyone that liked them woud do quite well

This prompted me to reply because such a diet is carnivorous and high
in
fat/protein. While I recognize you were not being literal about
feeding
fish buffalo chips, it still seemed to say that a carnivorous diet was
fine and dandy for carnivore. That is why I had quite substantial
replies
about the biology of the fish, but never did I say it had to be algae
and
nothing else. In case you need a refresher, here's some snippets from
my
posts. From my first post:

Cichlidiot wrote:
The occasional invertebrate inadvertantly caught with the algae will
not upset the intestinal tract to a great deal, but a primarily meat
diet will.

And from my second post:

Cichlidiot wrote:
Everything I've read about mbuna suggests that they do not have the
capacity (ie the digestive enzymes and so on) to live on a diet
consisting of mostly carnivorous foods without some serious
digestive
side-effects, such as bloat. The occasional intake may be tolerated,
but not a constant diet of such food.

So as you can see from those snippets, both of my posts on this thread
said it was fine for the OCCASIONAL introduction of non-herbivorous
foods.
I was never a "cheerleader" for only feeding them algae as you seem to
think. I have always "seen the light" when it comes to the fact that
they
will intake such foods on occasion in the wild. My point was while it
is
fine to feed such foods occasionally, the bulk of the diet should be
herbivorous since this replicates their natural diet. My motivation
was to
be a counterbalance to your posts which seemed to advocate a
carnivorous
diet for a fish is an herbivore.

Next time get your facts straight before you post such a gloating post
as
this one.

Actually, the buffalo chips reference was for people....

I believe there have been quite a number of posts that balance the
"herbivore" only myth that has been so pervasive for so long. Here is
my original response on this subject in case you forgot:

"I imagine the African's are not that much difference than their North
and South American cousins. They pretty much eat whatever they can
get.....with last choice going to Algae. I would only suggest a varied
diet, and it looks like that's what you are doing."

Save your "Bloat" for another day..