low maintenance tanganykan cichlids tank

Hi,

I just add to my tank a 5 inch female fiddler crab(both claws same
size)

I started to combine red crabs and fiddler crabs in my tanganykan
cichlids
tank, but the pet shops always caution me that the crabs might eat my
fish.
Most pet shops only carry 1 inch red crabs or fiddler crabs. I did
research
on the web, and most crabs eat fish if they can catch, but if not
disturbed,
they will not pursue a fish target. Mostly eat particles glued to the
gravel.
Luckily I found a 5 inch one is a small fish shop. It is awesome,
seeing a
crab behavior without using a magnifier.

I still keep my tank running at very low maintenance, no water changes
needed.
Feed only once a month.

The same fish shop, also carry the biggest non salt water eel I have
ever seen.
the head size was about .5 inch diameter and was very long. Anyone
knows
about if eels are agressive? I plan to add to my tanganykan cichlid.

My tanganykan ciclids consists of 3 baby tetracephalos, 2 baby calvus,
1 adult very big 3 inches bright orange leleupi. The leleupi is even
more aggressive than the 5 inch crab.

cheers

"Chip" wrote in message
om...
Hi,

I just add to my tank a 5 inch female fiddler crab(both claws same
size)

I started to combine red crabs and fiddler crabs in my tanganykan
cichlids
tank, but the pet shops always caution me that the crabs might eat my
fish.
Most pet shops only carry 1 inch red crabs or fiddler crabs. I did
research
on the web, and most crabs eat fish if they can catch, but if not
disturbed,
they will not pursue a fish target. Mostly eat particles glued to the
gravel.
Luckily I found a 5 inch one is a small fish shop. It is awesome,
seeing a
crab behavior without using a magnifier.

I still keep my tank running at very low maintenance, no water changes
needed.
Feed only once a month.

The same fish shop, also carry the biggest non salt water eel I have
ever seen.
the head size was about .5 inch diameter and was very long. Anyone
knows
about if eels are agressive? I plan to add to my tanganykan cichlid.

My tanganykan ciclids consists of 3 baby tetracephalos, 2 baby calvus,
1 adult very big 3 inches bright orange leleupi. The leleupi is even
more aggressive than the 5 inch crab.

cheers

You feed once a month?? without any wayer changes... essshh.. Nothing like
swimming in a septic tank... I feel for your fish... Esshh.. I suppose when
the Tang's get large enough ( providing they end up being the type that can
eat snails ) they might have a feast on the smaller crabs.. Bon apetite'
Tang's.. In the famous words of Bruce the shark.. " Fish are friends....."
Therefore we really should take care of them.. I suppose when I do my water
changes it there can't be any connection what so ever in the growth of the
fry... Aprox. 1/4 inch a week with two to three feedings daily.. Naw..no
connection what so ever.. (chuckles).. Water changes never affected the
growth of my indoor kept Koi.. They only grew four about fours times thier
size in a meager 6 monthes... Naw.. there just is no connection...Same goes
with any of my Oscars tripling in size in a mere three monthes.. Might not
have had anything to do with thier clean water environment or the fact they
might eat two or three times daily ( without using feeder fish as a
staple..) Naw... Go back an research on the web about how much water
changes might affect the growh of the fish in your tanks.. go to the
thekrib.com as they have some really great advice for novice tank keepers
and research some more. Actually, I think you might be to stubborn to read
the advice there, it might cause you to rethink your approach to keeping
your friends in a healther space.. C'est La Vie...

Tim...

"George Zyngulgursh" wrote in message
news
On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 14:22:59 -0800, Chip wrote:

The same fish shop, also carry the biggest non salt water eel I have
ever
seen.
the head size was about .5 inch diameter and was very long. Anyone knows
about if eels are agressive? I plan to add to my tanganykan cichlid.

Your tank certainly sounds like an interesting one, Chip.
The oldest and best known method of determining the aggressiveness of
freshwater eels is the "dip method". Start by taking a deep breath and
then dip your head into the eel's tank. Try to maintain eye contact with
the eel, otherwise it may think you are lower in the food chain. Then,
while still holding your breath, stick your tongue out at the eel - if he
bites it, you can safely consider that the eel is aggressive. If not, just
savour the bouquet of the water and pass that eel by. Works every time.
Cheers!
GZ

I bet you can finding jumping Oscars this way too...

Tim...

My fish hobby is only to admire their habitat behaviors.
I do not care of they grow bigger.



"T" wrote in message k.net...
"Chip" wrote in message
om...
Hi,

I just add to my tank a 5 inch female fiddler crab(both claws same
size)

I started to combine red crabs and fiddler crabs in my tanganykan
cichlids
tank, but the pet shops always caution me that the crabs might eat my
fish.
Most pet shops only carry 1 inch red crabs or fiddler crabs. I did
research
on the web, and most crabs eat fish if they can catch, but if not
disturbed,
they will not pursue a fish target. Mostly eat particles glued to the
gravel.
Luckily I found a 5 inch one is a small fish shop. It is awesome,
seeing a
crab behavior without using a magnifier.

I still keep my tank running at very low maintenance, no water changes
needed.
Feed only once a month.

The same fish shop, also carry the biggest non salt water eel I have
ever seen.
the head size was about .5 inch diameter and was very long. Anyone
knows
about if eels are agressive? I plan to add to my tanganykan cichlid.

My tanganykan ciclids consists of 3 baby tetracephalos, 2 baby calvus,
1 adult very big 3 inches bright orange leleupi. The leleupi is even
more aggressive than the 5 inch crab.

cheers

You feed once a month?? without any wayer changes... essshh.. Nothing like
swimming in a septic tank... I feel for your fish... Esshh.. I suppose when
the Tang's get large enough ( providing they end up being the type that can
eat snails ) they might have a feast on the smaller crabs.. Bon apetite'
Tang's.. In the famous words of Bruce the shark.. " Fish are friends....."
Therefore we really should take care of them.. I suppose when I do my water
changes it there can't be any connection what so ever in the growth of the
fry... Aprox. 1/4 inch a week with two to three feedings daily.. Naw..no
connection what so ever.. (chuckles).. Water changes never affected the
growth of my indoor kept Koi.. They only grew four about fours times thier
size in a meager 6 monthes... Naw.. there just is no connection...Same goes
with any of my Oscars tripling in size in a mere three monthes.. Might not
have had anything to do with thier clean water environment or the fact they
might eat two or three times daily ( without using feeder fish as a
staple..) Naw... Go back an research on the web about how much water
changes might affect the growh of the fish in your tanks.. go to the
thekrib.com as they have some really great advice for novice tank keepers
and research some more. Actually, I think you might be to stubborn to read
the advice there, it might cause you to rethink your approach to keeping
your friends in a healther space.. C'est La Vie...

Tim...

Well I guess your right... you don't care, becuase if you did you might
realize that indeed thier natrual water conditions are probably a lot
cleaner then the water they are in inside of your tank.. I refuse to even
speculate on why your thinking you have created a natrual habitat..

Tim..


"Chip" wrote in message
om...
My fish hobby is only to admire their habitat behaviors.
I do not care of they grow bigger.



"T" wrote in message
k.net...
"Chip" wrote in message
om...
Hi,

I just add to my tank a 5 inch female fiddler crab(both claws same
size)

I started to combine red crabs and fiddler crabs in my tanganykan
cichlids
tank, but the pet shops always caution me that the crabs might eat my
fish.
Most pet shops only carry 1 inch red crabs or fiddler crabs. I did
research
on the web, and most crabs eat fish if they can catch, but if not
disturbed,
they will not pursue a fish target. Mostly eat particles glued to the
gravel.
Luckily I found a 5 inch one is a small fish shop. It is awesome,
seeing a
crab behavior without using a magnifier.

I still keep my tank running at very low maintenance, no water changes
needed.
Feed only once a month.

The same fish shop, also carry the biggest non salt water eel I have
ever seen.
the head size was about .5 inch diameter and was very long. Anyone
knows
about if eels are agressive? I plan to add to my tanganykan cichlid.

My tanganykan ciclids consists of 3 baby tetracephalos, 2 baby calvus,
1 adult very big 3 inches bright orange leleupi. The leleupi is even
more aggressive than the 5 inch crab.

cheers

You feed once a month?? without any wayer changes... essshh.. Nothing
like
swimming in a septic tank... I feel for your fish... Esshh.. I suppose
when
the Tang's get large enough ( providing they end up being the type that
can
eat snails ) they might have a feast on the smaller crabs.. Bon apetite'
Tang's.. In the famous words of Bruce the shark.. " Fish are
friends....."
Therefore we really should take care of them.. I suppose when I do my
water
changes it there can't be any connection what so ever in the growth of
the
fry... Aprox. 1/4 inch a week with two to three feedings daily.. Naw..no
connection what so ever.. (chuckles).. Water changes never affected the
growth of my indoor kept Koi.. They only grew four about fours times
thier
size in a meager 6 monthes... Naw.. there just is no connection...Same
goes
with any of my Oscars tripling in size in a mere three monthes.. Might
not
have had anything to do with thier clean water environment or the fact
they
might eat two or three times daily ( without using feeder fish as a
staple..) Naw... Go back an research on the web about how much water
changes might affect the growh of the fish in your tanks.. go to the
thekrib.com as they have some really great advice for novice tank
keepers
and research some more. Actually, I think you might be to stubborn to
read
the advice there, it might cause you to rethink your approach to keeping
your friends in a healther space.. C'est La Vie...

Tim...

Tim,

The water in my tank is definitely much cleaner than most tanks from
specialty
fish shops. I only have one tank to take care, and it does not have
any algae buildup on the walls as you would see in shops, nor does it
have accumulated
polluted particles. When I swipe the gravel floor with a stick, it
does not
even cloud the water, because of my infrequent feeding schedules.
My water conditions tested appropriate for tanganykan cichlids, and on
7 years
that I have this tank, I never got diseases in my tank. Total fish
hobby experience is 12 years.
I care less that you disagree the way I handle my hobby.
But my original post asked for questions, and it is not necessary to
insult or make fun of the post.




"T" wrote in message ink.net...
Well I guess your right... you don't care, becuase if you did you might
realize that indeed thier natrual water conditions are probably a lot
cleaner then the water they are in inside of your tank.. I refuse to even
speculate on why your thinking you have created a natrual habitat..

Tim..


"Chip" wrote in message
om...
My fish hobby is only to admire their habitat behaviors.
I do not care of they grow bigger.



"T" wrote in message
k.net...
"Chip" wrote in message
om...
Hi,

I just add to my tank a 5 inch female fiddler crab(both claws same
size)

I started to combine red crabs and fiddler crabs in my tanganykan
cichlids
tank, but the pet shops always caution me that the crabs might eat my
fish.
Most pet shops only carry 1 inch red crabs or fiddler crabs. I did
research
on the web, and most crabs eat fish if they can catch, but if not
disturbed,
they will not pursue a fish target. Mostly eat particles glued to the
gravel.
Luckily I found a 5 inch one is a small fish shop. It is awesome,
seeing a
crab behavior without using a magnifier.

I still keep my tank running at very low maintenance, no water changes
needed.
Feed only once a month.

The same fish shop, also carry the biggest non salt water eel I have
ever seen.
the head size was about .5 inch diameter and was very long. Anyone
knows
about if eels are agressive? I plan to add to my tanganykan cichlid.

My tanganykan ciclids consists of 3 baby tetracephalos, 2 baby calvus,
1 adult very big 3 inches bright orange leleupi. The leleupi is even
more aggressive than the 5 inch crab.

cheers

You feed once a month?? without any wayer changes... essshh.. Nothing
like
swimming in a septic tank... I feel for your fish... Esshh.. I suppose
when
the Tang's get large enough ( providing they end up being the type that
can
eat snails ) they might have a feast on the smaller crabs.. Bon apetite'
Tang's.. In the famous words of Bruce the shark.. " Fish are
friends....."
Therefore we really should take care of them.. I suppose when I do my
water
changes it there can't be any connection what so ever in the growth of
the
fry... Aprox. 1/4 inch a week with two to three feedings daily.. Naw..no
connection what so ever.. (chuckles).. Water changes never affected the
growth of my indoor kept Koi.. They only grew four about fours times
thier
size in a meager 6 monthes... Naw.. there just is no connection...Same
goes
with any of my Oscars tripling in size in a mere three monthes.. Might
not
have had anything to do with thier clean water environment or the fact
they
might eat two or three times daily ( without using feeder fish as a
staple..) Naw... Go back an research on the web about how much water
changes might affect the growh of the fish in your tanks.. go to the
thekrib.com as they have some really great advice for novice tank
keepers
and research some more. Actually, I think you might be to stubborn to
read
the advice there, it might cause you to rethink your approach to keeping
your friends in a healther space.. C'est La Vie...

Tim...

geez here we go again t did you know that with water evaporation it can
carrie some but not all impurities away did you know that by properly
setting up and maintaining an aquarium it can actually be verry low maint. i
got a 155 gallon and my water changes are done 6 gallons at a time up 2
flights of stairs .talk about alot of work and every time i do a change i
get mad spawning in my african community tank. yes my fry survival rate is
low but some do make it.
i do a water change once every 5 weeks or so because i can understand
biology and physics and balance my tank and read the fish to see what needs
to be done. lists rules and regulations do not allways a good tank make. Im
just wondering why you continue to attack people with statements or
questions thats pretty much the only reason i responded to this post and
made you waste your time reading it. any way low maint. tanks can work if
you know how to do it. Spelling sucks punctuation and grammar right out the
window i know

-Dama
"T" wrote in message
.net...

"George Zyngulgursh" wrote in message
news
On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 14:22:59 -0800, Chip wrote:

The same fish shop, also carry the biggest non salt water eel I have
ever
seen.
the head size was about .5 inch diameter and was very long. Anyone
knows
about if eels are agressive? I plan to add to my tanganykan cichlid.

Your tank certainly sounds like an interesting one, Chip.
The oldest and best known method of determining the aggressiveness of
freshwater eels is the "dip method". Start by taking a deep breath and
then dip your head into the eel's tank. Try to maintain eye contact with
the eel, otherwise it may think you are lower in the food chain. Then,
while still holding your breath, stick your tongue out at the eel - if
he
bites it, you can safely consider that the eel is aggressive. If not,
just
savour the bouquet of the water and pass that eel by. Works every time.
Cheers!
GZ

I bet you can finding jumping Oscars this way too...

Tim...

speaking of grammar, better check yours first "allways" before making
fool of yourself.

everyone on the net is entitled to his/her own opinions, and I never attacked
anyone.

are we talking fishy business here and discussing new ideas and problems,
or are you being racist towards people that to you lack grammatical skills?




"Damaclese" wrote in message ...
geez here we go again t did you know that with water evaporation it can
carrie some but not all impurities away did you know that by properly
setting up and maintaining an aquarium it can actually be verry low maint. i
got a 155 gallon and my water changes are done 6 gallons at a time up 2
flights of stairs .talk about alot of work and every time i do a change i
get mad spawning in my african community tank. yes my fry survival rate is
low but some do make it.
i do a water change once every 5 weeks or so because i can understand
biology and physics and balance my tank and read the fish to see what needs
to be done. lists rules and regulations do not allways a good tank make. Im
just wondering why you continue to attack people with statements or
questions thats pretty much the only reason i responded to this post and
made you waste your time reading it. any way low maint. tanks can work if
you know how to do it. Spelling sucks punctuation and grammar right out the
window i know

-Dama
"T" wrote in message
.net...

"George Zyngulgursh" wrote in message
news
On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 14:22:59 -0800, Chip wrote:

The same fish shop, also carry the biggest non salt water eel I have
ever
seen.
the head size was about .5 inch diameter and was very long. Anyone
knows
about if eels are agressive? I plan to add to my tanganykan cichlid.

Your tank certainly sounds like an interesting one, Chip.
The oldest and best known method of determining the aggressiveness of
freshwater eels is the "dip method". Start by taking a deep breath and
then dip your head into the eel's tank. Try to maintain eye contact with
the eel, otherwise it may think you are lower in the food chain. Then,
while still holding your breath, stick your tongue out at the eel - if
he
bites it, you can safely consider that the eel is aggressive. If not,
just
savour the bouquet of the water and pass that eel by. Works every time.
Cheers!
GZ

I bet you can finding jumping Oscars this way too...

Tim...

Chip wrote:

snip

or are you being racist towards people that to you lack grammatical
skills?

Now I've heard everything.

tf

actually no im refering to myself and being racist against some one requires
me not to like their ancestral background not weather they can spell or use
the Queens english in the right text
racisim is a nasty word do be careful where you throw it arround i know my
spelling and grammar sucks that comes from being lazy and typing with only 1
hand
"ThangFish" wrote in message
...
Chip wrote:

snip

or are you being racist towards people that to you lack grammatical
skills?

Now I've heard everything.

tf