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![]() "battlelance" wrote in message ... On Sat, 6 Mar 2004 22:23:12 -0600, "Rick" wrote: Battlelance, just our of curiosity what size tank do you have that you use this recipe on?. I took a look at it and unless I read it wrong I would have to add 13 tablespoons of Epsom salts, about 13 teaspoons of baking soda and 13 teaspoons of marine salt to my 66 gallon tank to get my PH and hardness up to about my current levels. I use it on an 80 gallon tank. I would have to go dig up my original calculations to find out how much I would need to add to get it to where it is now (pH 8.0, KH ~200), because once I got it up to this level, you just have to maintain it based on the amount of water you remove from the tank. I do know it was nowhere near your numbers. Did you actually take a bucket of dechlorinated water and see how many tsp/tbsp's you would have to add to reach your desired levels? It's not something you could just guess at. I'm probably being too picky, since my original pH is ~7.5, and the africans should handle this just fine, but my KH and GH are 10, and I really wanted to bring that KH up. I also added crushed coral to the substrate and in the filter, and I'm currently monitoring the results to see if I can get a higher pH and KH, without altering the formula I use for the rift lake buffer recipe. And hey, it's cheaper than the "rift lake in a bottle" you can buy from the LFS ![]() Oh, I also wanted to mention that it takes time for the baking soda and epsom salts to work. I was a tad hasty when I first did my calculations, and my pH shot up in the tank causing my yellow labs to start scratching, and they eventually both died. sniff In my tank I initially added one tablespoon of baking soda which brought up my PH but I want my KH for my Mbunas's to be between 14-17 so I added another couple of teaspoons. I did some research and using the recipe as described on that site for my tank would give me an initial PH of 8.2 and a KH of 322 or something akin to liquid rock. Using my formula would give me a PH of 8.2 and a KH of 14 to 15, adding two more teaspoons of baking soda would keep my PH at 8.2 but raise my KH to 17-18 range which is perfect for me. Adding Epsom salts and or marine salts in MHO is not really necessary in a African tank although it does add some minerals and trace elements that some recommend. Research on waters of Lake Malawi will reveal that the PH range is 7.8-8.0 with very limited number of elements so adding marine salt introduces a wide range of elements which are not found in the natural biotope of the fish. Marine salt of course is not a buffering additive however it does contain carbonates which in my particular example would raise my PH from 8.2 to 8.4. For Africans from Lake Malawi , 8.2 would IMO be the upper limit of where one should be. Marine water has a ph of 8.4 and is already out of the range of Africans. Anyway, nothing wrong with a healthy discussion as everyone benefits in the end as it should prompt those interested in doing more research. Regards Rick |
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