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![]() "Dave Thompson" wrote in message ... "Charlie Durand" wrote in message news:HZYfc.151844$w54.1061055@attbi_s01... Oh yeah, my Oscars will just jump at my fingers while I'm cleaning the tank. If they catch you off guard it's a good shock. They've associated the hand with food obviously. The other large cichlids I have aren't nearly as animated when it comes to feedings. They have good appetites but jumping out of the tank or taking food from my hand only happens with the Oscars for the most part. Anyone else notice this? Don't you just love Oscars? I mean, really, don't you just love them? Not to avoid your question but really, is there a more perfect fish? Now if only they would stay small, so you could keep them in a reasonable-sized tank. My oscar is my favorite too, but I wish he would be ok in something smaller than a 40 gallon tank. Limnophile |
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"Limnophile" wrote in message ...
Now if only they would stay small, so you could keep them in a reasonable-sized tank. My oscar is my favorite too, but I wish he would be ok in something smaller than a 40 gallon tank. Limnophile Einstien tells us that all things are relative -- i guess that's true. I picture a 200 gal tank as "reasonable", larger than that as "large" and a mere 40 as uncomfortably small. One thing about large aquariums, and I ain't kidding here, is that they are *much* easier to maintain than small tanks. I think it's because their size increases their stability -- they are less likely to have sudden temperature and water condition changes. Once their cycled and stocked, they're bulletproof (so to speak) with some simple maintenance and much less likely to have problems. --Mark |
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![]() "Mark Stone" wrote in message om... "Limnophile" wrote in message ... Now if only they would stay small, so you could keep them in a reasonable-sized tank. My oscar is my favorite too, but I wish he would be ok in something smaller than a 40 gallon tank. Limnophile Einstien tells us that all things are relative -- i guess that's true. I picture a 200 gal tank as "reasonable", larger than that as "large" and a mere 40 as uncomfortably small. One thing about large aquariums, and I ain't kidding here, is that they are *much* easier to maintain than small tanks. I think it's because their size increases their stability -- they are less likely to have sudden temperature and water condition changes. Once their cycled and stocked, they're bulletproof (so to speak) with some simple maintenance and much less likely to have problems. --Mark I agree in principle, but to me "large" is based on whether I can have it in my apartment without it crashing through the floor. So 40 gallons is "large" to me. I'm thinking of replacing the 40 with a 75, but not sure if the floor will hold it. Oscars are great, but it seems that having only one fish in my biggest tank is somewhat of a waste. My second largest tank is a 29 gallon, which has about 45 small fish. ( Overstocked, I know, but well - maintained) Limnophile |
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"Limnophile" wrote in message ...
I agree in principle, but to me "large" is based on whether I can have it in my apartment without it crashing through the floor. So 40 gallons is "large" to me. I'm thinking of replacing the 40 with a 75, but not sure if the floor will hold it. Oscars are great, but it seems that having only one fish in my biggest tank is somewhat of a waste. My second largest tank is a 29 gallon, which has about 45 small fish. ( Overstocked, I know, but well - maintained) Limnophile What you need to do is hunt up some Oscar literature from the 1960s and earlier. Oscars have been a very popular aquarium fish for a long time, and before the advent of silicone aquarium sealant in the 60s an aquarium larger than 30 gallons in a home was very, very expensive and rare. So, people kept Oscars and Oscar pairs in what we consider now to be very cramped quarters. Thing is, they did it successfully and with healthy and happy fish. As a matter of fact, Axelrod moved his Oscars to his "large" 30g to mate them from their smaller tanks. How is this possible, you ask, when these days we flame people for keping Oscar pairs in anything less than a 75? It's a complicated procedure requiring very exacting aquarium maintenance, plus a special way to arrange aquarium decorations and -- get this -- a special way to arrange the furniture in the aquarium room! Apparently it is possible to "fool" an Oscar into thinking he is in a much larger space than he really is, thereby reducing stress. Anyhow, I wouldn't recommend it these days with inexpensive 150s and 200s for sale down at PetSmart, but it's interesting to look at how Oscars were kept in them olden days. --Mark |
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![]() "Mark Stone" wrote in message om... lots of good stuff, ending with .... Anyhow, I wouldn't recommend it these days with inexpensive 150s and 200s for sale down at PetSmart, but it's interesting to look at how Oscars were kept in them olden days. --Mark The problem isn't really the price. I live in an older apartment building on the second floor, and I don't want my shiny new tank paying my downstairs neighbor an unexpected visit. :-( I've done a little research, and according to an architect my floor "should probably" hold 1,600 pounds. Minus safety factor = about 120 gallons. Since I will still have the 40, The biggest tank I can really get is a 75. Or I could sell the 40 too and just buy a 120 gallon .... hmmmm ? Should I keep my Oscar in the 40 breeder, and have a 75 planted community tank - or give away the Oscar and have a 120 planted tank ? Decisions, decisions... (either way, I'm keeping my 20 long in the kitchen for quarantine / hospital) Limnophile |
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