Raccoon Repellent

What am I going to do now? Well I am not going to remove all my water
hyacinths for sure. One of them is blooming. Actually I have to take the 5th
on what my next step will be. All I can say that I believe in fate and luck.
It was the raccoon's fate that he found my pond and also his bad luck that
he has to deal with my defending it. If you think of them as a very large
disease carrying rodent who wants to decimate all the work and money you've
put into your pond as well as killing your pets, then escalating the force
with which you defend it seems rational. And during that escalation if the
size of the projectile has to increase slightly and the propellant changes
from air to something that creates a larger echo across the lake, then so be
it.

After all, if he would just walk another 200 yards he would be at that
24-acre lake full of largemouth bass, bluegill, catfish and carp. He comes
to my pond because it's a lot smaller and easier to fish in. Well, easier is
not always better as there is a much bigger hazard to fishing in my pond.
BK

"infoseeker" reply by post thx wrote in message
...
OH NO!!!
What are you going to try next? Maybe I should return my urine (ha ha)
now
without using it. Those raccoons make water gardens hard to do (with
fish).

and, yes, I'm also at war with moles. And the moles are mocking me. They
sit in the burrows and laugh- I'm sure of it. I stick mole bombs (sulfur)
down the holes, and the next morning, the wrappers are unceremoniously
tossed onto the grass right outside the hole! I feel for sure that they
are
just giggling their way through my lawn. And yes, I tried Castor oil a
few
years ago- man that stuff is hard to spray. The result? The best looking
moles you ever saw! Hey, maybe this is a side business waiting to happen-
if I could catch the critters! (And yes, tried traps, but it didn't kill
the guy- and that was traumatic- for us. We actually freed the guy in a
near by wild wild park- not pretty lawns). Perhaps the moles and raccoons
are haivng laughing parties at my expense!


"bobkiely" wrote in message
news:ikgPa.554$zy.246@fed1read06...
*LOL* You sir are just a little TOO MUCH! *LOL* The dispensers are
little
bottles about the size and shape of shampoo bottles you get in a hotel
with
3/8" circles cut out on all 4 sides, a cotton ball inside and a small
cable
tie used to hang it from whatever you choose. Now maybe you can purge
that
other image from your mind. :-)

This however, is all moot as (the following in 48pt, bold, underlined,
color
bright red)....THE COYOTE URINE DOES NOT, repeat DOES NOT WORK! The next
report I give on the coyote urine is whether I was able to retrieve my
$16.78 from the place I bought it!

Fortunately I saw him within 20-30 seconds of his arrival. When I jumped
up
he saw me through the window and ran back out through the gate. Once
there
he made a 180 and looked back in through the gate. His nose was 2 " away
from the CP dispenser for for at least 10 seconds. No reaction at all -
nada - nothing. Then not seeing me he decided to come back in and I was
waiting for him and without going into detail, I discouraged him again
and
he left and didn't come back.

BK

"Hank Pagel" wrote in message
...
BK, I'm sorry but something you said keeps sticking in my mind ....."
So I went
over there
and bought an 8 oz bottle plus a couple of dispensers."
Somehow I keep picturing the original dispenser the coyote used, in a
blister pack, hanging on a hook in the store. ............... and you
buying two of them.
On a serious note, They have not touched my WH but
they have torn out 80% of my water cress. I thought they were just mad
at me but the water cress does taste pretty good. That could be the
target. They think it's a salad bar with frog legs, escargot and sushi
side dishes.

"bobkiely" wrote in message
news:CJVOa.28$lW1.5@fed1read07...
Hank: 3 straight nights now since I marked my territory with CP and
no
visits from the Raccoons. (Fingers crossed/knock on wood) I even
took down
my soft drink can pyramid (well today is trash day too).
BK

BK, Sorry to hear that your urine doesn't work. I kind of thought that
the dispenser would still have to be attached to the coyote for it to
work. Thanks for the description, I will sleep better.


"bobkiely" wrote in message
news:ikgPa.554$zy.246@fed1read06...
*LOL* You sir are just a little TOO MUCH! *LOL* The dispensers are
little
bottles about the size and shape of shampoo bottles you get in a
hotel with
3/8" circles cut out on all 4 sides, a cotton ball inside and a
small cable
tie used to hang it from whatever you choose. Now maybe you can
purge that
other image from your mind. :-)

This however, is all moot as (the following in 48pt, bold,
underlined, color
bright red)....THE COYOTE URINE DOES NOT, repeat DOES NOT WORK! The
next
report I give on the coyote urine is whether I was able to retrieve
my
$16.78 from the place I bought it!

Fortunately I saw him within 20-30 seconds of his arrival. When I
jumped up
he saw me through the window and ran back out through the gate. Once
there
he made a 180 and looked back in through the gate. His nose was 2 "
away
from the CP dispenser for for at least 10 seconds. No reaction at
all -
nada - nothing. Then not seeing me he decided to come back in and I
was
waiting for him and without going into detail, I discouraged him
again and
he left and didn't come back.

BK

"Hank Pagel" wrote in message
...
BK, I'm sorry but something you said keeps sticking in my mind
......"
So I went
over there
and bought an 8 oz bottle plus a couple of dispensers."
Somehow I keep picturing the original dispenser the coyote used,
in a
blister pack, hanging on a hook in the store. ............... and
you
buying two of them.
On a serious note, They have not touched my WH
but
they have torn out 80% of my water cress. I thought they were just
mad
at me but the water cress does taste pretty good. That could be
the
target. They think it's a salad bar with frog legs, escargot and
sushi
side dishes.

"bobkiely" wrote in message
news:CJVOa.28$lW1.5@fed1read07...
Hank: 3 straight nights now since I marked my territory with CP
and
no
visits from the Raccoons. (Fingers crossed/knock on wood) I even
took down
my soft drink can pyramid (well today is trash day too).
BK
"Hank Pagel" wrote in message
.. .
Number two in trap!!!!!! The rest of the family trashed the
pond,
They
even ate all the flowers and buds from all the lilies. I think
I
need
more traps. All of the older fish seem ok. (We have not had
bonding
sessions with the smaller GF yet.) It seemed as if all were
present
for their orange slice this morning.
I think the family is getting angry. They overturned
several
potted plants in yard and finished their raid with a
refreshing
dip in
the swimming pool.
Well, time to take #2 to be with his sibling.
At $16. that coyote **** is starting to sound like a
bargain.

http://community.webshots.com/user/hankpage1
"Hank Pagel" wrote in message
news Well one raccoon relocated. Found him a nice spot by a lake.
He
was
kind-of small, and cute as he stuck his human-like little
paw
out of
the cage as if to say, "Come closer so I can RIP YOUR LIPS
OFF"!
...... I reset the trap ..... I have a strong feeling Mama
and
family
are nearby waiting to have another swim and buffet in Hank's
Puddle.
........ Let us know how the "Midnight under a coyote"
cologne
works.
"Hank Pagel" wrote in message
...
For $16 you should have gotten the whole coyote! It is
supposed to
work if there are coyotes in your area. The coon may just
think it
is
cheap cologne if it does not recognize it as a predator. I
looked
out
this morning to one furry bandit in a Hav-a-heart. I think
I'll
take
the little guy to the park today. Good luck with
yours. I
hope
I
only have one.
"bobkiely" wrote in message
news:nQrOa.99793$%42.80004@fed1read06...
I know some of you will think I'm just kidding due to my
recent
run-ins with
the raccoon but this is serious - no kidding.

Yesterday I was at Petco and was talking to the guy in
the
fish
department
and I mentioned I had a pond. He tells me that he used
to
but
gave
it up due
to being constantly trashed by the raccoons. So I
mentioned
to
him
that I
had 4 visits from coons in the last week and I was
thinking
of
trading in
the goldfish and koi for 200 4" piranhas to remedy the
problem.
(OK
I can't
help it - just kidding about that part).

So he tells me I should get some coyote urine...that if
it
was
available
when he had the problem, he's probably still have his
pond.
For
a
second I
thought HE was kidding and I said, "You said coyote
urine?"
He
said
that
they sell it across the street at Green Thumb Nursery.
So I
went
over there
and bought an 8 oz bottle plus a couple of dispensers.
Last
night
was the
first time I used it and didn't have a visit -
coincidence?
I
don't
know but
I had to try it even if it was $16.

Anybody else hear of it? And it IS actual 100% pure
coyote
urine,
not some
chemical (according to them). I'll take their word for
it.

They have a web site: http://www.legupenterprises.com

BK

In the past I have used cat food with some success. Someone told me to
use peanut butter on bread and so far they are 3 for 3.
"Bill Spohn" wrote in message
...
#3 is filling the trap (This is one big mother and I mean that
literally)The only damage this morning is some of the watercress
that
is left is uprooted.

What are you using as bait?

I have a feeling the film style and audio would resemble "The Blair
Witch" and Nike would probably pay me to destroy it.

"joe" wrote in message
...
Hank Pagel wrote:

#3 is filling the trap (This is one big mother and I mean that
literally)The only damage this morning is some of the watercress
that
is left is uprooted.We are going to see how fast an old,
bald-headed
fat guy can run when he opens the trap to let this one out. Better
wear my Nike's.

Is there some way you could film this for us?

Joe



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Supposedly they like marshmellows.
You have to tie them in as a raccoon once picked
up the trap and shook the marshmellows out.
The advantage is that your neighbor's cat usually isn't very fond of
marshmellows.


k30a

BV....I know....somebody initially suggested I just call animal control and
have them deal with it. Well what fun is that?? I'm a writer and I need the
material! This banter back and forth between all the contributors could be
the basis of a TV sitcom or at least a very funny short story. I just cut
and pasted some of the best posts on this thread and sent it to all my
friends who rely on me to provide them with some weekly humor. I see most of
them on Friday nights and if for some reason I didn't send anything that
week, some actually complain like their paying for a subscription or
something. :-)
BK

"BenignVanilla" wrote in message
...
"bobkiely" wrote in message
news:6DhPa.581$zy.223@fed1read06...
Hank, FYI, I took this off the Haveahart.com website:
"Raccoons are known carriers of several diseases that are transmittable
to
humans and pets. Diseases such as rabies, tuberculosis, canine and
feline
distemper, and parasites such as roundworm. Roundworm is contracted by
humans accidentally ingesting or inhaling eggs that are passed through
the
raccoon feces. Children are at risk because while playing could get it
on
their hands and then, as children will do, put their hands in their
mouths.
Remind children not to go near them. Be a responsible pet owner and keep
your pets away from raccoons."
snip

I am laughing silly over here, at you guys not being able to get rid of
these coons. This IS EASY!!! Come on! I suggest you rent CaddyShack, get a
pencil and some paper and take notes.

BV.

"bobkiely" wrote in message
news:6DhPa.581$zy.223@fed1read06...
Hank, FYI, I took this off the Haveahart.com website:
"Raccoons are known carriers of several diseases that are transmittable to
humans and pets. Diseases such as rabies, tuberculosis, canine and feline
distemper, and parasites such as roundworm. Roundworm is contracted by
humans accidentally ingesting or inhaling eggs that are passed through the
raccoon feces. Children are at risk because while playing could get it on
their hands and then, as children will do, put their hands in their
mouths.
Remind children not to go near them. Be a responsible pet owner and keep
your pets away from raccoons."
snip

I am laughing silly over here, at you guys not being able to get rid of
these coons. This IS EASY!!! Come on! I suggest you rent CaddyShack, get a
pencil and some paper and take notes.

BV.

On Thu, 10 Jul 2003 09:58:56 -0700, "bobkiely"
wrote:

What am I going to do now?

You dont want to trap and release elsewhere?

"bobkiely" wrote in message
news:OwiPa.586$zy.536@fed1read06...
What am I going to do now? Well I am not going to remove all my water
hyacinths for sure. One of them is blooming. Actually I have to take the
5th
on what my next step will be. All I can say that I believe in fate and
luck.
It was the raccoon's fate that he found my pond and also his bad luck that
he has to deal with my defending it. If you think of them as a very large
disease carrying rodent who wants to decimate all the work and money
you've
put into your pond as well as killing your pets, then escalating the force
with which you defend it seems rational. And during that escalation if the
size of the projectile has to increase slightly and the propellant changes
from air to something that creates a larger echo across the lake, then so
be
it.
snip

Do you know someone with a mid to large sized dog? I wonder if you could
borrow it for a week or so? I would think a snarling, barking dog would do
the trick.

BV.

I know you are trying to convince yourself, because I see them as
highly intelligent mammals that just happen to be lower on the food
chain than us. (No not a tree-hugger, just respect) I also would leave
the fifth alone, booze and firearms don't mix. For me extermination
would be the last resort.
On the other hand we will see what tomorrow brings now that mama
is relocated. I had to dump her out of the cage and she ran like hell.
WHEW!!!! Me man! Vicious animals run from me! So much for the macho
crap, glad she ran, I think she was faster than me anyway.

"bobkiely" wrote in message
news:OwiPa.586$zy.536@fed1read06...
What am I going to do now? Well I am not going to remove all my
water
hyacinths for sure. One of them is blooming. Actually I have to take
the 5th
on what my next step will be. All I can say that I believe in fate
and luck.
It was the raccoon's fate that he found my pond and also his bad
luck that
he has to deal with my defending it. If you think of them as a very
large
disease carrying rodent who wants to decimate all the work and money
you've
put into your pond as well as killing your pets, then escalating the
force
with which you defend it seems rational. And during that escalation
if the
size of the projectile has to increase slightly and the propellant
changes
from air to something that creates a larger echo across the lake,
then so be
it.

After all, if he would just walk another 200 yards he would be at
that
24-acre lake full of largemouth bass, bluegill, catfish and carp. He
comes
to my pond because it's a lot smaller and easier to fish in. Well,
easier is
not always better as there is a much bigger hazard to fishing in my
pond.
BK

"infoseeker" reply by post thx wrote in message
...
OH NO!!!
What are you going to try next? Maybe I should return my urine
(ha ha)
now
without using it. Those raccoons make water gardens hard to do
(with
fish).

and, yes, I'm also at war with moles. And the moles are mocking
me. They
sit in the burrows and laugh- I'm sure of it. I stick mole bombs
(sulfur)
down the holes, and the next morning, the wrappers are
unceremoniously
tossed onto the grass right outside the hole! I feel for sure
that they
are
just giggling their way through my lawn. And yes, I tried Castor
oil a
few
years ago- man that stuff is hard to spray. The result? The best
looking
moles you ever saw! Hey, maybe this is a side business waiting to
happen-
if I could catch the critters! (And yes, tried traps, but it
didn't kill
the guy- and that was traumatic- for us. We actually freed the
guy in a
near by wild wild park- not pretty lawns). Perhaps the moles and
raccoons
are haivng laughing parties at my expense!


"bobkiely" wrote in message
news:ikgPa.554$zy.246@fed1read06...
*LOL* You sir are just a little TOO MUCH! *LOL* The dispensers
are
little
bottles about the size and shape of shampoo bottles you get in a
hotel
with
3/8" circles cut out on all 4 sides, a cotton ball inside and a
small
cable
tie used to hang it from whatever you choose. Now maybe you can
purge
that
other image from your mind. :-)

This however, is all moot as (the following in 48pt, bold,
underlined,
color
bright red)....THE COYOTE URINE DOES NOT, repeat DOES NOT WORK!
The next
report I give on the coyote urine is whether I was able to
retrieve my
$16.78 from the place I bought it!

Fortunately I saw him within 20-30 seconds of his arrival. When
I jumped
up
he saw me through the window and ran back out through the gate.
Once
there
he made a 180 and looked back in through the gate. His nose was
2 " away
from the CP dispenser for for at least 10 seconds. No reaction
at all -
nada - nothing. Then not seeing me he decided to come back in
and I was
waiting for him and without going into detail, I discouraged him
again
and
he left and didn't come back.

BK

"Hank Pagel" wrote in message
...
BK, I'm sorry but something you said keeps sticking in my
mind ....."
So I went
over there
and bought an 8 oz bottle plus a couple of
dispensers."
Somehow I keep picturing the original dispenser the coyote
used, in a
blister pack, hanging on a hook in the store. ...............
and you
buying two of them.
On a serious note, They have not touched my
WH but
they have torn out 80% of my water cress. I thought they were
just mad
at me but the water cress does taste pretty good. That could
be the
target. They think it's a salad bar with frog legs, escargot
and sushi
side dishes.

"bobkiely" wrote in message
news:CJVOa.28$lW1.5@fed1read07...
Hank: 3 straight nights now since I marked my territory with
CP and
no
visits from the Raccoons. (Fingers crossed/knock on wood) I
even
took down
my soft drink can pyramid (well today is trash day too).
BK