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  #11  
Old July 10th 03, 08:32 PM
BenignVanilla
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"joe" wrote in message
...
BenignVanilla wrote:

Do you mean others have had problems sending to me? I don't understand.
Anyway, I don't feel so strongly about this, that I would want to argue
either side. If others feel the anti-SPAM content is a pain, I'll

happily
remove it from my email address settings. In fact, consider it

done...just
give me a few days to remember to do it on all of my PC's.


Here's what I do, YMMV.

For every person (or group of people) I want to receive mail from I set up

a
"rule" in my email program. The rule simply states, when you get a message
from this person (a specific email address) place the email in this

folder.
snip

I have often considered this but feared all of the work needed to get all of
my friends set up with rules. I guess it is time for my main accounts.
Unfortunately, my BV account is checked either on my laptop via OE or via a
webmail app, as I only use this account for usenet. I guess it's time to
move it to my Outlook machine.


BV.


  #12  
Old July 10th 03, 08:38 PM
joe
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BenignVanilla wrote:

I have often considered this but feared all of the work needed to get all of
my friends set up with rules


It's not so bad. Do it when you receive an email from them rather than all
at once. You'll be done in no time, plus you don't have to worry that you
missed an email from someone important.

Joe



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  #13  
Old July 10th 03, 08:39 PM
joe
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Sue Alexandre wrote:

And by the way, I'm honored to now be a "rule" in your mailbox.

Sue



Ah, shucks.


Joe



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  #14  
Old July 10th 03, 09:19 PM
John Rutz
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hate to tell you this John your from and reply to addys are the same

John Hines wrote:
"BenignVanilla" m
wrote:


"John Hines" wrote in message
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And I'm pointing out that greg isn't the only that has had problems.


Do you mean others have had problems sending to me? I don't understand.
Anyway, I don't feel so strongly about this, that I would want to argue
either side. If others feel the anti-SPAM content is a pain, I'll happily
remove it from my email address settings. In fact, consider it done...just
give me a few days to remember to do it on all of my PC's.



I've had trouble, so has greg. I don't know how much more evidence of
missing email you'll find.

Actually, what I recommend is to keep what you got, but add a reply to
header. Historically, people have often read news from accounts other
than their main account. Thus there is a special header that tells the
news reader to send email there, rather than the news account, if it is
set (otherwise it defaults).

For example, look at my header(s). the news addy is jbhines at newsguy,
which gets NOTHING but spam. My main addy is john at jhines dot org,
which is my main email addy. This addy gets like 1% of the spam that the
other one gets. And that is with no munging or other spam protection,
other than dumping stuff that isn't actually addressed (IE used the bcc
header) to me.

You use MS OE which kinda ignores what was found to have worked in the
almost decade of use people had before MS discovered usenet. The reply
to header seems to be ignored by most spammers. I don't use OE my self,
so I can't help you with it, but it should be able to show, and set
headers.




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  #15  
Old July 10th 03, 10:09 PM
John Hines
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John Rutz wrote:

hate to tell you this John your from and reply to addys are the same


Ok, I guess that would make the other addy's spam from a dictionary
attack.

Oh well.

  #16  
Old July 11th 03, 12:28 AM
Cybe R. Wizard
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On Thu, 10 Jul 2003 12:38:30 -0700
joe wrote:

BenignVanilla wrote:

I have often considered this but feared all of the work needed to
get all of my friends set up with rules


It's not so bad. Do it when you receive an email from them rather than
all at once. You'll be done in no time, plus you don't have to worry
that you missed an email from someone important.

Joe

OTOH, I saved my spam for a couple of weeks and then set filters in
Sylpheed-claws for all the "From:" headers. I did this about two months
ago and my spam went from several dozen a day to three or four a week.

Cybe R. Wizard
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Original PORG "Water Wizard," R.P.
"Wize(ned) Wizard," A.P.F-P-Y.
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  #17  
Old July 11th 03, 08:04 AM
Theo van Daele
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I have often considered this but feared all of the work needed to
get all of my friends set up with rules


FWIW, a program like MailWasher (http://www.mailwasher.net) is quite useful
(and free unless you want to make a donation to the writer). It
autodetects spam based on ORDB, Spamcop etc... databases, and you can set up
nice rules, friends lists, blacklists.

Best thing is you can do this without actually downloading the mails (it
only retrieves the headers).

You can then delete/bounce messages with one swift "Process" command, and
only download the mails you actually want to read.

Saves quite a bit of time.

That said, I can see both sides of the discussion. On estimate, about 50%
of all emails today are spam (that's billions of mails per day), and I had
to close a few older accounts because I got about 1.000 messages a week :-(

However, spam robots are concentrating less & less on newsgroups it seems,
one of the big no-no's now is to have your email address on your personal
website. That will create more spam than putting a usable address on
usenet.


  #18  
Old July 11th 03, 03:11 PM
BenignVanilla
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"Theo van Daele" wrote in message
...

I have often considered this but feared all of the work needed to
get all of my friends set up with rules


FWIW, a program like MailWasher (http://www.mailwasher.net) is quite

useful
(and free unless you want to make a donation to the writer). It
autodetects spam based on ORDB, Spamcop etc... databases, and you can set

up
nice rules, friends lists, blacklists.

snip

I have been using cloudmark's SPAMnet on my main PC for awhile now. It works
incredibly.

BV.


 




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