Cloudy water

It is not the calcium or magnesium that serves to buffer pH.
Carbonates and bicarbonates often associated with these metals are the
"culprits". Soft waters (those with low amounts of calcium and/or
magnesium {carbonates}) with high pH are not all that uncommon from
wells, especially deep wells in the southern U.S. Sodium bicarbonate
is usually the cause.

Benefits from using lime to increase hardness at high pH are
questionable. The problem: lime does not dissolve at high pH, and
thus calcium will not become biologically available.

wrote:

wowoow... I am surprised you got naturally soft water and a pH that high. I guess I
dont understand what is happening to your water. naturally soft is usually below 7.0
GF like more hardness in the water and calcium and magnesium create a buffer that
resists changes in pH. big swings of pH are not good for GF.
no.. it is not the pellets for using on the lawn. walmart used to carry organic
dolomitic lime white with flecks of darker material. well water is not always
perfect as is. Ingrid

"FBCS" wrote:

Checked readings at 10am all the same. I guess my PH is staying high I added
a little water. I don't understand how lime (is this the pellets used on
the lawn) will help or why I would want hard water. I thought I was blessed
with well water by not having to add so much chemical and having to be
concerned about clorine.


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What am I to do to lower the PH or do you think this is natural for my pond
as some on this group state their PH runs high? My pond is fairly small and
in the sun most of the day. The fish don't seem to mind, they are fine. All
the information I am learning has put me in panic. I guess that's where the
statement comes from "ignorance is bliss".
"GD" wrote in message
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It is not the calcium or magnesium that serves to buffer pH.
Carbonates and bicarbonates often associated with these metals are the
"culprits". Soft waters (those with low amounts of calcium and/or
magnesium {carbonates}) with high pH are not all that uncommon from
wells, especially deep wells in the southern U.S. Sodium bicarbonate
is usually the cause.

Benefits from using lime to increase hardness at high pH are
questionable. The problem: lime does not dissolve at high pH, and
thus calcium will not become biologically available.

wrote:

wowoow... I am surprised you got naturally soft water and a pH that high.
I guess I
dont understand what is happening to your water. naturally soft is
usually below 7.0
GF like more hardness in the water and calcium and magnesium create a
buffer that
resists changes in pH. big swings of pH are not good for GF.
no.. it is not the pellets for using on the lawn. walmart used to carry
organic
dolomitic lime white with flecks of darker material. well water is not
always
perfect as is. Ingrid

"FBCS" wrote:

Checked readings at 10am all the same. I guess my PH is staying high I
added
a little water. I don't understand how lime (is this the pellets used
on
the lawn) will help or why I would want hard water. I thought I was
blessed
with well water by not having to add so much chemical and having to be
concerned about clorine.


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~
List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List
http://puregold.aquaria.net/
www.drsolo.com
Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~
Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
endorsements or recommendations I make.

how old are your kits? check the pH and hardness of the water out of the tap. rule
of thumb, if fish are happy, do nothing. Ingrid

"FBCS" wrote:
What am I to do to lower the PH or do you think this is natural for my pond
as some on this group state their PH runs high?


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List
http://puregold.aquaria.net/
www.drsolo.com
Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
endorsements or recommendations I make.

calcium carbonate is what is used to buffer water. that is what is in lime, in
oyster shells, in coral etc. right. when there is high pH lime wont dissolve. but
naturally soft water is not usually high in pH precisely because it is low in calcium
carbonate. in soft acidic water can toss in baking soda and it hits the water and
dissociates into C02 + H2O. Ingrid

GD wrote:

It is not the calcium or magnesium that serves to buffer pH.
lime does not dissolve at high pH, and
thus calcium will not become biologically available.




~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List
http://puregold.aquaria.net/
www.drsolo.com
Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
endorsements or recommendations I make.