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dont use tea tree oil derivatives with your GF
When Melafix came out your opinions were based on dog and bird anecdotes. Have you ever tried it? |
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BErney1014 wrote:
dont use tea tree oil derivatives with your GF When Melafix came out your opinions were based on dog and bird anecdotes. Have you ever tried it? I have used tee tree oil myself for years! I like http://naturesgift.com I used it with myrrth before and after surjury and the healing was so fast the doctor was surprised. When I heard about melafix I was excited, and when I used it I was satisified. Other oils I have used on people is french lavendertension headaches, Myrrthteeth and I used also after surjury, Sweet Majorumexcellent pain reliever worked on my carpaltunnel,musle,nerve,joint and bone pain, peppermintmigraines, tangerinejust cause I like it, Kay |
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Kay,
If you still have carpel tunnel (CT) problems drop me a line privately and I will tell you how to do an exercise that has taken my CT problems away, and also worked for my wife. My carpel tunnel was getting so bad that I was also getting tennis elbow. My wife was thinking about surgery when I found this method. Found out later that two people that she worked with had the surgery and it really didn't take care of the problem. May be it will work for you. Tom L.L. ------------------------------------------------ "Kay" wrote in message news:eReZb.81018$jk2.423787@attbi_s53... BErney1014 wrote: dont use tea tree oil derivatives with your GF When Melafix came out your opinions were based on dog and bird anecdotes. Have you ever tried it? I have used tee tree oil myself for years! I like http://naturesgift.com I used it with myrrth before and after surjury and the healing was so fast the doctor was surprised. When I heard about melafix I was excited, and when I used it I was satisified. Other oils I have used on people is french lavendertension headaches, Myrrthteeth and I used also after surjury, Sweet Majorumexcellent pain reliever worked on my carpaltunnel,musle,nerve,joint and bone pain, peppermintmigraines, tangerinejust cause I like it, Kay |
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yes, and the fast healing of the epithelia of a fish is the reason it isnt a good
idea. a look on the literature shows that wounds heal best from the inside out so that bacteria dont get trapped inside and fester. this is why puncture wounds are so dangerous. it is even more serious in that fish have the epidermis that holds the scales and then over this is an epithelial layer that secretes slime and antimicrobial products. If this heals over while the wound is still festering it traps the bacteria underneath. this is the reason wounds are palpated to see if they are hard (indicating proper healing) or if they are soft, indicating an ongoing infection under the skin. Those wounds have to be opened up to let them drain. salt is a good "medication" to help heal surface wounds and scrapes. fish epithelial is a lot more like the inside of our mouths (wet epithelial) than the skin on our hands. The inside of our mouth heals fast too and the recommended treatment for minor wounds in the mouth like canker sores ...... salt water rinse. It isnt just the surface of the fish that is being exposed to things dumped in the water ... it is the lungs of the fish as well, and the gills are even more tender and easily burned by chemicals. so why put chemicals into the water that arent going to work better than frequent water changes and a little salt? Ingrid Kay wrote: I used it with myrrth before and after surjury and the healing was so fast the doctor was surprised. When I heard about melafix I was excited, and when I used it I was satisified. Kay ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List http://puregold.aquaria.net/ www.drsolo.com Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the endorsements or recommendations I make. |
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Yes Ingrid,
What you say is all well and good, but you are making suppositions here with this message relating it to fish. All you references deal with dogs, cats and birds, nothing relating with fish. You have never used a product with tea tree oil and have no experience with the product Melafix or its use and effectiveness. Those of us who have used it find it to be a very valid and effective medication for fish, I say again, for FISH, not birds, cats or dogs. One of these days people will realize that the "Dr" part of your addys deals with a teaching degree and has nothing to do with fish or research related to fish or the Veterinary knowledge gained by that degree with the aspect of fish husbandry. Neosporin boosts fast healing and you recommend it or its substitutes all the time, I guess by what you are saying in this message that this product is bad also. Or is it only bad when you don't recommend it. You know you can't have it both ways. You are such a gem, Ingrid, you say one thing one time and then in couple of days you actually negate things that you have said previously. How long have you been keeping Goldfish, now, it should be about eight years now. Have a nice day. ----------------------------------------- wrote in message ... yes, and the fast healing of the epithelia of a fish is the reason it isnt a good idea. a look on the literature shows that wounds heal best from the inside out so that bacteria dont get trapped inside and fester. this is why puncture wounds are so dangerous. it is even more serious in that fish have the epidermis that holds the scales and then over this is an epithelial layer that secretes slime and antimicrobial products. If this heals over while the wound is still festering it traps the bacteria underneath. this is the reason wounds are palpated to see if they are hard (indicating proper healing) or if they are soft, indicating an ongoing infection under the skin. Those wounds have to be opened up to let them drain. salt is a good "medication" to help heal surface wounds and scrapes. fish epithelial is a lot more like the inside of our mouths (wet epithelial) than the skin on our hands. The inside of our mouth heals fast too and the recommended treatment for minor wounds in the mouth like canker sores ...... salt water rinse. It isnt just the surface of the fish that is being exposed to things dumped in the water ... it is the lungs of the fish as well, and the gills are even more tender and easily burned by chemicals. so why put chemicals into the water that arent going to work better than frequent water changes and a little salt? Ingrid Kay wrote: I used it with myrrth before and after surjury and the healing was so fast the doctor was surprised. When I heard about melafix I was excited, and when I used it I was satisified. Kay ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List http://puregold.aquaria.net/ www.drsolo.com Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the endorsements or recommendations I make. |
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![]() I for one don't care to see these personal hostile attacks on Ingrid just because you don't agree with her. You seem to have "an axe to grind" and trying to discredit her - just doesn't fly! IMO - her expertise is without question. Re - Melafix - the best we can say from web reviews is: "Opinions seem to be divided on its performance. Some reckon it’s the bee’s knees, others don’t rate it as highly as some of the more mainstream medications on the market, and some suggest that it does seem to have a negative impact on filtration, too. " Yes Ingrid, What you say is all well and good, but you are making suppositions here with this message relating it to fish. All you references deal with dogs, cats and birds, nothing relating with fish. You have never used a product with tea tree oil and have no experience with the product Melafix or its use and effectiveness. Those of us who have used it find it to be a very valid and effective medication for fish, I say again, for FISH, not birds, cats or dogs. One of these days people will realize that the "Dr" part of your addys deals with a teaching degree and has nothing to do with fish or research related to fish or the Veterinary knowledge gained by that degree with the aspect of fish husbandry. Neosporin boosts fast healing and you recommend it or its substitutes all the time, I guess by what you are saying in this message that this product is bad also. Or is it only bad when you don't recommend it. You know you can't have it both ways. You are such a gem, Ingrid, you say one thing one time and then in couple of days you actually negate things that you have said previously. How long have you been keeping Goldfish, now, it should be about eight years now. Have a nice day. |
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Martin,
It is neither personal or hostile. Just because I point out the obvious incongruities that appear, has nothing to do with axe grinding. Just because Ingrid says it, doesn't make it true or correct in all instances and this is one of them. -------------------------------- "MartinOsirus" wrote in message ... I for one don't care to see these personal hostile attacks on Ingrid just because you don't agree with her. You seem to have "an axe to grind" and trying to discredit her - just doesn't fly! IMO - her expertise is without question. Re - Melafix - the best we can say from web reviews is: "Opinions seem to be divided on its performance. Some reckon it's the bee' s knees, others don't rate it as highly as some of the more mainstream medications on the market, and some suggest that it does seem to have a negative impact on filtration, too. " |
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