Evil, evil snails

Hi, all;
How does one get rid of those *(%&! mystery snails that come in with
plants?!??! I thought I was rid of them, changed the filters, sorted
through all the sea weed, did three peroxide dips on the fish to get rid of
any flukes, and now, over three weeks later, a teensy snail on the side
wall! I assume it was an egg. I also assume it's not alone, even tho it's
the only one we could find. Is there anything I can put in the tank to kill
these evil things? Or am I doomed, now that they are in there?

I'm also assuming that, if I threw these plants away (they've been in the
tank since Christmas), any more I get would be apt to be infested, too....

Help!

--
Laurie, Dark Phoenix

Error. Install universe and reboot.

Get a small weather loach. sucks em right out of the shells.

"Dark Phoenix" wrote in message
...
Hi, all;
How does one get rid of those *(%&! mystery snails that come in with
plants?!??! I thought I was rid of them, changed the filters, sorted
through all the sea weed, did three peroxide dips on the fish to get rid
of
any flukes, and now, over three weeks later, a teensy snail on the side
wall! I assume it was an egg. I also assume it's not alone, even tho it's
the only one we could find. Is there anything I can put in the tank to
kill
these evil things? Or am I doomed, now that they are in there?

I'm also assuming that, if I threw these plants away (they've been in the
tank since Christmas), any more I get would be apt to be infested, too....

Help!

--
Laurie, Dark Phoenix

Error. Install universe and reboot.

I tried everything. had a special tank just for "desnailing" plants. only thing
worked was a hefty concentration of copper sulfate (like coppersafe).
move your fish out of the tank to a bucket of well aerated water with a net top to
prevent jumping. put a double dose of coppersafe in the tank overnight. remove most
of the water to get rid of it. a little left behind isnt going to hurt the GF unless
your pH is 6.5 or so. Ingrid

"Dark Phoenix" wrote:

Hi, all;
How does one get rid of those *(%&! mystery snails that come in with
plants?!??! I thought I was rid of them, changed the filters, sorted
through all the sea weed, did three peroxide dips on the fish to get rid of
any flukes, and now, over three weeks later, a teensy snail on the side
wall! I assume it was an egg. I also assume it's not alone, even tho it's
the only one we could find. Is there anything I can put in the tank to kill
these evil things? Or am I doomed, now that they are in there?

I'm also assuming that, if I threw these plants away (they've been in the
tank since Christmas), any more I get would be apt to be infested, too....

Help!



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I wouldn't call them mystery snails, since that term is usually associated
with apple snails, and I doubt an apple snail (usually about the size of a
cherry or bigger) came in on your plants without you knowing.

Regarding your stowaway snail: Why don't you just squish it? As you become
aware of more of them, you can squish them, too.

Sounds like you are worried about them being carriers of some kind of
disease--if that is the case it is too late for removing those plants to do
you any good. (Can an animal carry parasites while still in the egg?) I'd
wait and see if any more snails appear. That might have been the only one.
You don't want to tear everything apart "just in case"--that won't do your
fish any good.

I believe there is some kind of chemical dip you can use on new plants so
that no snails/eggs survive on them, but I can't remember the name of it.
Might want to use something like that in the future.

-Chris


(P.S. Snails aren't evil, they're just inconvenient. )_



in article , Dark Phoenix at
wrote on 5/11/04 12:02 AM:

Hi, all;
How does one get rid of those *(%&! mystery snails that come in with
plants?!??! I thought I was rid of them, changed the filters, sorted
through all the sea weed, did three peroxide dips on the fish to get rid of
any flukes, and now, over three weeks later, a teensy snail on the side
wall! I assume it was an egg. I also assume it's not alone, even tho it's
the only one we could find. Is there anything I can put in the tank to kill
these evil things? Or am I doomed, now that they are in there?

I'm also assuming that, if I threw these plants away (they've been in the
tank since Christmas), any more I get would be apt to be infested, too....

Help!

--
Chris

I was really stressing about my snail situation, but now I have reached a
happy compromise. When they are big enough for me to see, I go around in
the morning and squish all the ones on the glass (sorry if you're
squeamish!). This leaves me with a dozen or so which are helping get rid of
a little bit of algae on the leaves of my plants, and cleaning gunk off the
gravel in between vacuums. The added bonus is that my guppies have
developed an obsession with them and get extremly excited when I do this
circuit of the tank in the morning - they love them! I wash all my weed
really well under running tap water - I figure the chlorine will help get
rid of them - before I put them in a tank. So only one of my tanks has the
little critters, I have managed to avoid them in the others.

Cheers
Lill


"Chris Oinonen Ehren" wrote in message
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I wouldn't call them mystery snails, since that term is usually associated
with apple snails, and I doubt an apple snail (usually about the size of a
cherry or bigger) came in on your plants without you knowing.

Regarding your stowaway snail: Why don't you just squish it? As you
become
aware of more of them, you can squish them, too.

Sounds like you are worried about them being carriers of some kind of
disease--if that is the case it is too late for removing those plants to
do
you any good. (Can an animal carry parasites while still in the egg?) I'd
wait and see if any more snails appear. That might have been the only
one.
You don't want to tear everything apart "just in case"--that won't do your
fish any good.

I believe there is some kind of chemical dip you can use on new plants so
that no snails/eggs survive on them, but I can't remember the name of it.
Might want to use something like that in the future.

-Chris


(P.S. Snails aren't evil, they're just inconvenient. )_



in article , Dark Phoenix at
wrote on 5/11/04 12:02 AM:

Hi, all;
How does one get rid of those *(%&! mystery snails that come in with
plants?!??! I thought I was rid of them, changed the filters, sorted
through all the sea weed, did three peroxide dips on the fish to get rid
of
any flukes, and now, over three weeks later, a teensy snail on the side
wall! I assume it was an egg. I also assume it's not alone, even tho
it's
the only one we could find. Is there anything I can put in the tank to
kill
these evil things? Or am I doomed, now that they are in there?

I'm also assuming that, if I threw these plants away (they've been in
the
tank since Christmas), any more I get would be apt to be infested,
too....

Help!

--
Chris

wrote in message
...
I tried everything. had a special tank just for "desnailing" plants.
only thing
worked was a hefty concentration of copper sulfate (like coppersafe).
move your fish out of the tank to a bucket of well aerated water with a
net top to
prevent jumping. put a double dose of coppersafe in the tank overnight.
remove most
of the water to get rid of it. a little left behind isnt going to hurt
the GF unless
your pH is 6.5 or so. Ingrid

My pH is waaaay over that... but... doesn't the copper sulfate kill the
plants, too? It does a number on terrestrial plants.


--
Laurie, Dark Phoenix

Error. Install universe and reboot.

"Chris Oinonen Ehren" wrote in message
...
I wouldn't call them mystery snails, since that term is usually associated
with apple snails, and I doubt an apple snail (usually about the size of a
cherry or bigger) came in on your plants without you knowing.

Regarding your stowaway snail: Why don't you just squish it? As you
become
aware of more of them, you can squish them, too.

Sounds like you are worried about them being carriers of some kind of
disease--if that is the case it is too late for removing those plants to
do
you any good. (Can an animal carry parasites while still in the egg?) I'd
wait and see if any more snails appear. That might have been the only
one.
You don't want to tear everything apart "just in case"--that won't do your
fish any good.

I believe there is some kind of chemical dip you can use on new plants so
that no snails/eggs survive on them, but I can't remember the name of it.
Might want to use something like that in the future.


Hmm... we know what apple snails are; why are they called mystery snails?
And no, these aren't apples or ramshorns.

I do squish them- well, I take the out and toss them to the chickens. Little
escargot treat. I'm just tired of thinking I've got the tank de-eviled, and
then finding... more of them. Are these things born pregnant??? Have babies
while they're still invisible to the naked eye??? Until I found out they
could carry flukes, and thus be a probable cause of the bacterial infection
I'm still fighting after two months, I was leaving them to cruise the algae.
They made neat patterns in it.


--
Laurie, Dark Phoenix

Error. Install universe and reboot.

Dark Phoenix wrote:

Until I found out they could carry flukes, and thus be a
probable cause of the bacterial infection I'm still fighting after two
months, I was leaving them to cruise the algae. They made neat
patterns in it.

Remove goldfish. 100% water change. Nice and clean. Add loaches (clown
or weather). Wait a week or so. Put those cute little loaches back in
their own tank, replace goldfish.

See those cute little barbels? Specially designed to get snails out of
their shells... Heh, heh, heh.

-D
--
"A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy
enough people to make it worth the effort." -Herm Albright

Dark Phoenix wrote:

My pH is waaaay over that... but... doesn't the copper sulfate kill
the plants, too? It does a number on terrestrial plants.

Think chemotherapy.
--
"A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy
enough people to make it worth the effort." -Herm Albright

uh... not sure cause I have used copper sulfate like stuff to kill fungus on my
orchids. Ingrid

"Dark Phoenix" wrote:
but... doesn't the copper sulfate kill the
plants, too? It does a number on terrestrial plants.



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