Leave and debris screen for pond

I think you could drop the price by having folks go buy their own PVC or at
least give the option of buying the screening only? Btw, a black screen
would be easier to see through. ~ jan


On Thu, 04 Sep 2003 10:41:04 -0400, John Bachman wrote:

Yikes! I seem to be in the pond screen business.

I searched around for a screen to put on my pond this fall but could
not find a suitable one. So I built one. Other people asked me to
make one for them so I did. I made design improvements as I went
along, making it easy to disassemble for storage, easy to clean, etc.

The next thing you know I am in business. The company I work for gave
me a corner of their www site to display the screen and even will
process the orders for me.

Take a look at my design at www.anatekcorp.com/garden/pondscreen.htm
and see what you think. I would be interested in your comments.

John


See my ponds and filter design:
http://users.owt.com/jjspond/

~Keep 'em Wet!~
Tri-Cities WA Zone 7a
To e-mail see website

On Fri, 05 Sep 2003 00:48:51 GMT, ~ jan JJsPond.us
wrote:

I think you could drop the price by having folks go buy their own PVC or at
least give the option of buying the screening only? Btw, a black screen
would be easier to see through. ~ jan



I took your advice and am now offering lower priced kits. The buyers
would get some of their own PVC materials. I supply the mesh net,
fittings and fasteners plus a build plan, of course.

The reasons a

Mesh net - I am buying rolls of 150 yards long by 12 feet wide. That
way, up to 10' wide frames have a single, solid piece - no joints and
no gaps. The only way to get this is direct from the factory.

Fittings (PVC angles, tees, etc) - some of these must be bored out and
drilled for easy disassembly and subsequent reassembly. I presume
that folks want to store it away when not in use, not just leave it
up. If you use PVC adhesive you are stuck with a bulky frame. Since
I am set up to do the boring and drilling, why not do that?

The fasteners are a special Velcro product that mounts nicely to the
mesh and then straps around the frame. This product (MVA #8 in Velcro
talk) is not available retail. So, I am buying from a Velcro
distributor. This is a real nice, clean fastening system.

Thanks for your input. Folks can buy the full system partially
assembled or a kit as described above. Cool.

John
See the pond leaf & debris screen at
www.anatekcorp.com/garden/pondscreen.htm

On Fri, 05 Sep 2003 00:48:51 GMT, ~ jan JJsPond.us
wrote:

I think you could drop the price by having folks go buy their own PVC or at
least give the option of buying the screening only? Btw, a black screen
would be easier to see through. ~ jan



I took your advice and am now offering lower priced kits. The buyers
would get some of their own PVC materials. I supply the mesh net,
fittings and fasteners plus a build plan, of course.

The reasons a

Mesh net - I am buying rolls of 150 yards long by 12 feet wide. That
way, up to 10' wide frames have a single, solid piece - no joints and
no gaps. The only way to get this is direct from the factory.

Fittings (PVC angles, tees, etc) - some of these must be bored out and
drilled for easy disassembly and subsequent reassembly. I presume
that folks want to store it away when not in use, not just leave it
up. If you use PVC adhesive you are stuck with a bulky frame. Since
I am set up to do the boring and drilling, why not do that?

The fasteners are a special Velcro product that mounts nicely to the
mesh and then straps around the frame. This product (MVA #8 in Velcro
talk) is not available retail. So, I am buying from a Velcro
distributor. This is a real nice, clean fastening system.

Thanks for your input. Folks can buy the full system partially
assembled or a kit as described above. Cool.

John
See the pond leaf & debris screen at
www.anatekcorp.com/garden/pondscreen.htm

John,

I think that's great! I am saving your website for future reference.
~ jan )

On Fri, 05 Sep 2003 11:47:53 -0400, John Bachman wrote:

I took your advice and am now offering lower priced kits. The buyers
would get some of their own PVC materials. I supply the mesh net,
fittings and fasteners plus a build plan, of course.

The reasons a

Mesh net - I am buying rolls of 150 yards long by 12 feet wide. That
way, up to 10' wide frames have a single, solid piece - no joints and
no gaps. The only way to get this is direct from the factory.

Fittings (PVC angles, tees, etc) - some of these must be bored out and
drilled for easy disassembly and subsequent reassembly. I presume
that folks want to store it away when not in use, not just leave it
up. If you use PVC adhesive you are stuck with a bulky frame. Since
I am set up to do the boring and drilling, why not do that?

The fasteners are a special Velcro product that mounts nicely to the
mesh and then straps around the frame. This product (MVA #8 in Velcro
talk) is not available retail. So, I am buying from a Velcro
distributor. This is a real nice, clean fastening system.

Thanks for your input. Folks can buy the full system partially
assembled or a kit as described above. Cool.

John
See the pond leaf & debris screen at
www.anatekcorp.com/garden/pondscreen.htm



See my ponds and filter design:
http://users.owt.com/jjspond/

~Keep 'em Wet!~
Tri-Cities WA Zone 7a
To e-mail see website

John,

I think that's great! I am saving your website for future reference.
~ jan )

On Fri, 05 Sep 2003 11:47:53 -0400, John Bachman wrote:

I took your advice and am now offering lower priced kits. The buyers
would get some of their own PVC materials. I supply the mesh net,
fittings and fasteners plus a build plan, of course.

The reasons a

Mesh net - I am buying rolls of 150 yards long by 12 feet wide. That
way, up to 10' wide frames have a single, solid piece - no joints and
no gaps. The only way to get this is direct from the factory.

Fittings (PVC angles, tees, etc) - some of these must be bored out and
drilled for easy disassembly and subsequent reassembly. I presume
that folks want to store it away when not in use, not just leave it
up. If you use PVC adhesive you are stuck with a bulky frame. Since
I am set up to do the boring and drilling, why not do that?

The fasteners are a special Velcro product that mounts nicely to the
mesh and then straps around the frame. This product (MVA #8 in Velcro
talk) is not available retail. So, I am buying from a Velcro
distributor. This is a real nice, clean fastening system.

Thanks for your input. Folks can buy the full system partially
assembled or a kit as described above. Cool.

John
See the pond leaf & debris screen at
www.anatekcorp.com/garden/pondscreen.htm



See my ponds and filter design:
http://users.owt.com/jjspond/

~Keep 'em Wet!~
Tri-Cities WA Zone 7a
To e-mail see website

use shock cording on the PVC, the way they do with tent frames so it can be easily
folded up and put away in winter. Ingrid

John Bachman wrote:

On Fri, 05 Sep 2003 00:48:51 GMT, ~ jan JJsPond.us
wrote:

I think you could drop the price by having folks go buy their own PVC or at
least give the option of buying the screening only? Btw, a black screen
would be easier to see through. ~ jan

Interesting points. I have implemented several features that make it
easy to install and disassemble. For instance, most of the tees and
crosses are bored out in one direction so that they slide on the PVC
pipe, no hardware or cement required. Also, the mesh is attached to
the frame using some special Velcro devices that work very well.

I thought that most pond owners would not want to get into cutting and
boring PVC but I suppose there are some who would. I will think about
offering a do-it-yourself plan. I could supply the design details and
the mesh with the Velcro attached. Then the user can decide whether
to bore out the fittings or cut and screw/cement.

If there is enough volume I could offer white or black mesh choice.
Right now I have a big roll of white.

Thanks for your feedback.

John
See www.anatekcorp.com/garden/pondscreen.htm to see what we are
talking about.



On Thu, 04 Sep 2003 10:41:04 -0400, John Bachman wrote:

Yikes! I seem to be in the pond screen business.

I searched around for a screen to put on my pond this fall but could
not find a suitable one. So I built one. Other people asked me to
make one for them so I did. I made design improvements as I went
along, making it easy to disassemble for storage, easy to clean, etc.

The next thing you know I am in business. The company I work for gave
me a corner of their www site to display the screen and even will
process the orders for me.

Take a look at my design at www.anatekcorp.com/garden/pondscreen.htm
and see what you think. I would be interested in your comments.

John


See my ponds and filter design:
http://users.owt.com/jjspond/

~Keep 'em Wet!~
Tri-Cities WA Zone 7a
To e-mail see website



~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List
http://puregold.aquaria.net/
www.drsolo.com
Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
endorsements or recommendations I make.

use shock cording on the PVC, the way they do with tent frames so it can be easily
folded up and put away in winter. Ingrid

John Bachman wrote:

On Fri, 05 Sep 2003 00:48:51 GMT, ~ jan JJsPond.us
wrote:

I think you could drop the price by having folks go buy their own PVC or at
least give the option of buying the screening only? Btw, a black screen
would be easier to see through. ~ jan

Interesting points. I have implemented several features that make it
easy to install and disassemble. For instance, most of the tees and
crosses are bored out in one direction so that they slide on the PVC
pipe, no hardware or cement required. Also, the mesh is attached to
the frame using some special Velcro devices that work very well.

I thought that most pond owners would not want to get into cutting and
boring PVC but I suppose there are some who would. I will think about
offering a do-it-yourself plan. I could supply the design details and
the mesh with the Velcro attached. Then the user can decide whether
to bore out the fittings or cut and screw/cement.

If there is enough volume I could offer white or black mesh choice.
Right now I have a big roll of white.

Thanks for your feedback.

John
See www.anatekcorp.com/garden/pondscreen.htm to see what we are
talking about.



On Thu, 04 Sep 2003 10:41:04 -0400, John Bachman wrote:

Yikes! I seem to be in the pond screen business.

I searched around for a screen to put on my pond this fall but could
not find a suitable one. So I built one. Other people asked me to
make one for them so I did. I made design improvements as I went
along, making it easy to disassemble for storage, easy to clean, etc.

The next thing you know I am in business. The company I work for gave
me a corner of their www site to display the screen and even will
process the orders for me.

Take a look at my design at www.anatekcorp.com/garden/pondscreen.htm
and see what you think. I would be interested in your comments.

John


See my ponds and filter design:
http://users.owt.com/jjspond/

~Keep 'em Wet!~
Tri-Cities WA Zone 7a
To e-mail see website



~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List
http://puregold.aquaria.net/
www.drsolo.com
Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
endorsements or recommendations I make.

On Sat, 06 Sep 2003 00:21:32 GMT, wrote:

use shock cording on the PVC, the way they do with tent frames so it can be easily
folded up and put away in winter. Ingrid


That may be a good idea for larger units. The design I have works
well up to 10 feet wide and is easily disassembled for storage (takes
about 5 minutes to do).

However, I am getting requests for larger units and am concerned that
the design will not hold together good enough for them. The shock
cording idea may be suitable for that - it will put the cross elements
into more compression thereby gaining strength.

I will investigate further.

Sheesh, I just wanted a screen for my pond and now I am engineering
like crazy. Oh well, there are worse things to be doing. For
instance, today I must go cut brush at my mother-in-law's house.

John

Go to www.anatekcorp.com/garden/pondscreen.htm to see what we are
talking about. I clever leaf and debris screen for ponds.

snipped all the older stuff

On Sat, 06 Sep 2003 00:21:32 GMT, wrote:

use shock cording on the PVC, the way they do with tent frames so it can be easily
folded up and put away in winter. Ingrid


That may be a good idea for larger units. The design I have works
well up to 10 feet wide and is easily disassembled for storage (takes
about 5 minutes to do).

However, I am getting requests for larger units and am concerned that
the design will not hold together good enough for them. The shock
cording idea may be suitable for that - it will put the cross elements
into more compression thereby gaining strength.

I will investigate further.

Sheesh, I just wanted a screen for my pond and now I am engineering
like crazy. Oh well, there are worse things to be doing. For
instance, today I must go cut brush at my mother-in-law's house.

John

Go to www.anatekcorp.com/garden/pondscreen.htm to see what we are
talking about. I clever leaf and debris screen for ponds.

snipped all the older stuff