Air stone use?

Jan, This is the second post where you've stated air stones
vibrating a hole in the liner! What is going on here?
I have been using air stones for 9 years. No holes in the liner.
I've never heard of such a thing .... :O)

Nedra
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http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

"~ jan JJsPond.us" wrote in message
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And Air pump, yes. A cheaply made air stone can be had using drip system
parts. Tubing, connectors and leaky tubing are similar in size to aquarium
hoses, and even better suited to being outside. Also the leaking tubing is
rubber and won't vibrate a hole into your liner like an air stone could.
Thus, if using an airstone, keep it away from the sides or bottom of a
liner pond. ~ jan



On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 00:17:36 -0700, Fred wrote:

My little 400gal pond has done wonderfully all summer long - crystal
clear
water (after the spring bloom), lilies going crazy, fish thriving,
including
a host of new babies. However, I was thinning the hyacinth this week and
in
removing several plants noticed a subtle yet distinct odor that suggests
anaerobic activity. My little pump just causes a trickle of a waterfall,
so
I don't think I'm getting the oxygenation that I should have. So, here's
my
question:

I'm assuming air stones are the answer, as well as a larger pump. How and
what kind of air stones are to be used? Am I going to have to invest in
some kind of air pump as well?

TIA,

Fred
Oceanside CA

See my ponds thru the seasons and/or my filter design:
http://users.owt.com/jjspond/

~Keep 'em Defrosted~
Tri-Cities, WA Zone 7a
To e-mail see website

AES sells oversized "O" rings that can be placed around an airstone that
will keep it off the bottom. My airstone "manifold" is mounted on a hard
plastic plate to keep the stones away from the liner. Personally, I've never
heard of a stone vibrating a hole in a liner, but I suppose it IS a
possibility. Then again, because of lawsuits over very frivalous things, I
think people are thinking of everything that can possisbly go wrong and
trying to find ways to circumvent them.

Lee


"Nedra" wrote in message
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Jan, This is the second post where you've stated air stones
vibrating a hole in the liner! What is going on here?
I have been using air stones for 9 years. No holes in the liner.
I've never heard of such a thing .... :O)

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

"~ jan JJsPond.us" wrote in message
...
And Air pump, yes. A cheaply made air stone can be had using drip system
parts. Tubing, connectors and leaky tubing are similar in size to
aquarium
hoses, and even better suited to being outside. Also the leaking tubing
is
rubber and won't vibrate a hole into your liner like an air stone could.
Thus, if using an airstone, keep it away from the sides or bottom of a
liner pond. ~ jan



On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 00:17:36 -0700, Fred wrote:

My little 400gal pond has done wonderfully all summer long - crystal
clear
water (after the spring bloom), lilies going crazy, fish thriving,
including
a host of new babies. However, I was thinning the hyacinth this week
and
in
removing several plants noticed a subtle yet distinct odor that
suggests
anaerobic activity. My little pump just causes a trickle of a
waterfall,
so
I don't think I'm getting the oxygenation that I should have. So,
here's
my
question:

I'm assuming air stones are the answer, as well as a larger pump. How
and
what kind of air stones are to be used? Am I going to have to invest
in
some kind of air pump as well?

TIA,

Fred
Oceanside CA

See my ponds thru the seasons and/or my filter design:
http://users.owt.com/jjspond/

~Keep 'em Defrosted~
Tri-Cities, WA Zone 7a
To e-mail see website

On Mon, 27 Oct 2003 00:30:40 GMT, "Nedra" wrote:

Jan, This is the second post where you've stated air stones
vibrating a hole in the liner! What is going on here?

As was reported to me, most air stones are made of an abrasive material,
add small frequent movements and you have the possibility of a sandpaper
affect. I've never had it happen, never heard of it happening, but I
suppose the possibility is there. Why O-rings have been added to some of
the larger stones.

One thing that we noted last year with our Luft pump was having the excess
cord sitting on top of where the cord came out of the pump, this caused
wear from the pump vibrating, and the pump even made a worn spot on the
side of the plastic pail it was in. ~ jan


See my ponds thru the seasons and/or my filter design:
http://users.owt.com/jjspond/

~Keep 'em Defrosted~
Tri-Cities, WA Zone 7a
To e-mail see website

That is the first time I have heard that as well.



~ jan JJsPond.us wrote in message
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On Mon, 27 Oct 2003 00:30:40 GMT, "Nedra" wrote:

Jan, This is the second post where you've stated air stones
vibrating a hole in the liner! What is going on here?

As was reported to me, most air stones are made of an abrasive material,
add small frequent movements and you have the possibility of a sandpaper
affect. I've never had it happen, never heard of it happening, but I
suppose the possibility is there. Why O-rings have been added to some of
the larger stones.

One thing that we noted last year with our Luft pump was having the excess
cord sitting on top of where the cord came out of the pump, this caused
wear from the pump vibrating, and the pump even made a worn spot on the
side of the plastic pail it was in. ~ jan


See my ponds thru the seasons and/or my filter design:
http://users.owt.com/jjspond/

~Keep 'em Defrosted~
Tri-Cities, WA Zone 7a
To e-mail see website