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MagDrive pump is tripping GFI....time to replace?



 
 
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Old February 24th 04, 05:00 PM
Jay Adair
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Default MagDrive pump is tripping GFI....time to replace?

After 2 years of perfect operation, my Magdrive pump just started tripping
the GFI after 20 seconds of operation. Resetting the GFI and plugging the
pump back in only gets another 20 seconds....

The intake opening of the pump is clear, but I haven't opened the case to
check the impeller for blockage yet. Is this about normal life....time to
replace the pump if impeller is clear?

Thanks for any input,

Jay


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Old February 24th 04, 07:02 PM
Gale Pearce
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Default MagDrive pump is tripping GFI....time to replace?

You may want to check your GFIC before replacing the pump - I had one go bad
Gale :~)

"Jay Adair" wrote in message
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After 2 years of perfect operation, my Magdrive pump just started tripping
the GFI after 20 seconds of operation. Resetting the GFI and plugging the
pump back in only gets another 20 seconds....

The intake opening of the pump is clear, but I haven't opened the case to
check the impeller for blockage yet. Is this about normal life....time to
replace the pump if impeller is clear?

Thanks for any input,

Jay




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Old February 24th 04, 07:31 PM
Jay Adair
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Default MagDrive pump is tripping GFI....time to replace?

(Mag Drive 2400 gph pump, 600 gallon pond, 50 gallon filter, 7 feet of
lift....approx. turn-over once / hour)

Well, I opened it and pulled out the impeller....the surface of the impeller
has lost some of the coating and the bits of the coating seem to have gotten
between the impeller and the surrounding magnets and grooved the remaining
surface of the impeller....in short, it appears shot......

......so......spend $30 for a replacement impeller for what turns out to be a
3 year old pump, or spring for $145 for a new pump.....

Anybody done the impeller swap? Longetivity of repair?


"Jay Adair" wrote in message
...
After 2 years of perfect operation, my Magdrive pump just started tripping
the GFI after 20 seconds of operation. Resetting the GFI and plugging the
pump back in only gets another 20 seconds....

The intake opening of the pump is clear, but I haven't opened the case to
check the impeller for blockage yet. Is this about normal life....time to
replace the pump if impeller is clear?

Thanks for any input,

Jay




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Old February 24th 04, 07:49 PM
Jay Adair
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Default MagDrive pump is tripping GFI....time to replace?

It still seems to work fine. Without the pump plugged in, other items
plugged into this circuit work properly....
Thanks,

Jay

"Gale Pearce" wrote in message
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You may want to check your GFIC before replacing the pump - I had one go

bad
Gale :~)

"Jay Adair" wrote in message
...
After 2 years of perfect operation, my Magdrive pump just started

tripping
the GFI after 20 seconds of operation. Resetting the GFI and plugging

the
pump back in only gets another 20 seconds....

The intake opening of the pump is clear, but I haven't opened the case

to
check the impeller for blockage yet. Is this about normal life....time

to
replace the pump if impeller is clear?

Thanks for any input,

Jay






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Old February 24th 04, 08:39 PM
Charles
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Default MagDrive pump is tripping GFI....time to replace?

On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 11:00:52 -0600, "Jay Adair"
wrote:

After 2 years of perfect operation, my Magdrive pump just started tripping
the GFI after 20 seconds of operation. Resetting the GFI and plugging the
pump back in only gets another 20 seconds....

The intake opening of the pump is clear, but I haven't opened the case to
check the impeller for blockage yet. Is this about normal life....time to
replace the pump if impeller is clear?

Thanks for any input,

Jay

When my pump went it was the body of the pump, not the impeller.
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Old February 24th 04, 08:40 PM
Charles
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Default MagDrive pump is tripping GFI....time to replace?

On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 13:31:56 -0600, "Jay Adair"
wrote:

(Mag Drive 2400 gph pump, 600 gallon pond, 50 gallon filter, 7 feet of
lift....approx. turn-over once / hour)

Well, I opened it and pulled out the impeller....the surface of the impeller
has lost some of the coating and the bits of the coating seem to have gotten
between the impeller and the surrounding magnets and grooved the remaining
surface of the impeller....in short, it appears shot......

.....so......spend $30 for a replacement impeller for what turns out to be a
3 year old pump, or spring for $145 for a new pump.....

Anybody done the impeller swap? Longetivity of repair?


"Jay Adair" wrote in message
...
After 2 years of perfect operation, my Magdrive pump just started tripping
the GFI after 20 seconds of operation. Resetting the GFI and plugging the
pump back in only gets another 20 seconds....

The intake opening of the pump is clear, but I haven't opened the case to
check the impeller for blockage yet. Is this about normal life....time to
replace the pump if impeller is clear?

Thanks for any input,

Jay



Plug it in without the impeller. If it still trips, then a new
impeller will do no good, except to be a spare.


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Old February 24th 04, 08:54 PM
Andy Hill
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Default MagDrive pump is tripping GFI....time to replace?

"Jay Adair" wrote:
(Mag Drive 2400 gph pump, 600 gallon pond, 50 gallon filter, 7 feet of
lift....approx. turn-over once / hour)

Well, I opened it and pulled out the impeller....the surface of the impeller
has lost some of the coating and the bits of the coating seem to have gotten
between the impeller and the surrounding magnets and grooved the remaining
surface of the impeller....in short, it appears shot......

.....so......spend $30 for a replacement impeller for what turns out to be a
3 year old pump, or spring for $145 for a new pump.....

Anybody done the impeller swap? Longetivity of repair?

Without answering your question, I can't see how impeller damage is causing the
GFCI to trip -- you should be able to run the motor in any situation from full
stall to no load without tripping the GFCI. If the outlet is OK, then
something in the pump is toast. Have you checked the cord? Assuming this is
a true Mag pump, those guys are epoxy sealed -- it'd take some work to get
anything into the pump to the point you're getting a significant leakage to
ground.

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Old February 25th 04, 01:28 AM
Jay Adair
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Default MagDrive pump is tripping GFI....time to replace?


"Andy Hill" wrote in message
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"Jay Adair" wrote:
(Mag Drive 2400 gph pump, 600 gallon pond, 50 gallon filter, 7 feet of
lift....approx. turn-over once / hour)

Well, I opened it and pulled out the impeller....the surface of the

impeller
has lost some of the coating and the bits of the coating seem to have

gotten
between the impeller and the surrounding magnets and grooved the

remaining
surface of the impeller....in short, it appears shot......

.....so......spend $30 for a replacement impeller for what turns out to

be a
3 year old pump, or spring for $145 for a new pump.....

Anybody done the impeller swap? Longetivity of repair?

Without answering your question, I can't see how impeller damage is

causing the
GFCI to trip -- you should be able to run the motor in any situation from

full
stall to no load without tripping the GFCI. If the outlet is OK, then
something in the pump is toast. Have you checked the cord? Assuming

this is
a true Mag pump, those guys are epoxy sealed -- it'd take some work to get
anything into the pump to the point you're getting a significant leakage

to
ground.


I think after seeing the damage to the impeller (and some collateral damage
to the inside of the impeller housing) I am going to get a new pump and skip
the repair process.

Thanks to all.....

Jay


 




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