Advice sought from Pond People

"Moog" wrote in
:


As for the bacteria bit ? I think the poster is a little confused -
decaying organic material doesn't 'give off' bacteria - it is the
action of bacteria already in the water that break the organic
matter down into ammonia, this is further broken down by
oxidisation to Nitrates and Nitrites. Certain levels of these are
essential for a healthy pond, ammonia and nitrates provide food for
aquatic plants - very high nitrates however will lead to very poor
water quality and ultimately kill the pond. This is why you should
prevent an over-accumulation of decaying leaves, fish **** and frog
**** on the bottom of your pond - the smell of that black sludge
from the depths of the pond is also equisitely disgusting.

Whoo hoo! Who gives a ****.
Just fill it full on concrete and be done with it.
****s.

Put a ****ing Swing on it. It's better than a bit of water that cats
**** in.

My cats would **** in it TBH.

--
Kullrad (14)
UKSF Best New Poster 2003

There's going to be knives!

"Moog" wrote in
:


As for the bacteria bit ? I think the poster is a little confused -
decaying organic material doesn't 'give off' bacteria - it is the
action of bacteria already in the water that break the organic
matter down into ammonia, this is further broken down by
oxidisation to Nitrates and Nitrites. Certain levels of these are
essential for a healthy pond, ammonia and nitrates provide food for
aquatic plants - very high nitrates however will lead to very poor
water quality and ultimately kill the pond. This is why you should
prevent an over-accumulation of decaying leaves, fish **** and frog
**** on the bottom of your pond - the smell of that black sludge
from the depths of the pond is also equisitely disgusting.

Whoo hoo! Who gives a ****.
Just fill it full on concrete and be done with it.
****s.

Put a ****ing Swing on it. It's better than a bit of water that cats
**** in.

My cats would **** in it TBH.

--
Kullrad (14)
UKSF Best New Poster 2003

There's going to be knives!

"Kullrad" garbled some drivel on 03/04/2004:

"Moog" wrote in
:


As for the bacteria bit ? I think the poster is a little
confused - decaying organic material doesn't 'give off' bacteria
- it is the action of bacteria already in the water that break
the organic matter down into ammonia, this is further broken
down by oxidisation to Nitrates and Nitrites. Certain levels of
these are essential for a healthy pond, ammonia and nitrates
provide food for aquatic plants - very high nitrates however
will lead to very poor water quality and ultimately kill the
pond. This is why you should prevent an over-accumulation of
decaying leaves, fish **** and frog **** on the bottom of your
pond - the smell of that black sludge from the depths of the
pond is also equisitely disgusting.
Whoo hoo! Who gives a ****.
Just fill it full on concrete and be done with it.
****s.

Put a ****ing Swing on it. It's better than a bit of water that cats
**** in.

My cats would **** in it TBH.

You feed them too much.

Maybe you should build a pond and hope they fall in and drown.

Use some stakes and liners though....you know the script.

--
Moog

"Kullrad" garbled some drivel on 03/04/2004:

"Moog" wrote in
:


As for the bacteria bit ? I think the poster is a little
confused - decaying organic material doesn't 'give off' bacteria
- it is the action of bacteria already in the water that break
the organic matter down into ammonia, this is further broken
down by oxidisation to Nitrates and Nitrites. Certain levels of
these are essential for a healthy pond, ammonia and nitrates
provide food for aquatic plants - very high nitrates however
will lead to very poor water quality and ultimately kill the
pond. This is why you should prevent an over-accumulation of
decaying leaves, fish **** and frog **** on the bottom of your
pond - the smell of that black sludge from the depths of the
pond is also equisitely disgusting.
Whoo hoo! Who gives a ****.
Just fill it full on concrete and be done with it.
****s.

Put a ****ing Swing on it. It's better than a bit of water that cats
**** in.

My cats would **** in it TBH.

You feed them too much.

Maybe you should build a pond and hope they fall in and drown.

Use some stakes and liners though....you know the script.

--
Moog

"Moog" wrote in news:xn0dgkkwyayxy9019
@news.individual.net:

As for the bacteria bit ? I think the poster is a little
confused - decaying organic material doesn't 'give off' bacteria
- it is the action of bacteria already in the water that break
the organic matter down into ammonia, this is further broken
down by oxidisation to Nitrates and Nitrites. Certain levels of
these are essential for a healthy pond, ammonia and nitrates
provide food for aquatic plants - very high nitrates however
will lead to very poor water quality and ultimately kill the
pond. This is why you should prevent an over-accumulation of
decaying leaves, fish **** and frog **** on the bottom of your
pond - the smell of that black sludge from the depths of the
pond is also equisitely disgusting.
Whoo hoo! Who gives a ****.
Just fill it full on concrete and be done with it.
****s.

Put a ****ing Swing on it. It's better than a bit of water that cats
**** in.

My cats would **** in it TBH.

You feed them too much.

Maybe you should build a pond and hope they fall in and drown.

I don't want my cats to drown, you insensitive ****. I love my cats.

Use some stakes and liners though....you know the script.

Errrr can you read back the first line. I seem to have forgoten it.

--
Kullrad (14)
UKSF Best New Poster 2003

There's going to be knives!

"Moog" wrote in news:xn0dgkkwyayxy9019
@news.individual.net:

As for the bacteria bit ? I think the poster is a little
confused - decaying organic material doesn't 'give off' bacteria
- it is the action of bacteria already in the water that break
the organic matter down into ammonia, this is further broken
down by oxidisation to Nitrates and Nitrites. Certain levels of
these are essential for a healthy pond, ammonia and nitrates
provide food for aquatic plants - very high nitrates however
will lead to very poor water quality and ultimately kill the
pond. This is why you should prevent an over-accumulation of
decaying leaves, fish **** and frog **** on the bottom of your
pond - the smell of that black sludge from the depths of the
pond is also equisitely disgusting.
Whoo hoo! Who gives a ****.
Just fill it full on concrete and be done with it.
****s.

Put a ****ing Swing on it. It's better than a bit of water that cats
**** in.

My cats would **** in it TBH.

You feed them too much.

Maybe you should build a pond and hope they fall in and drown.

I don't want my cats to drown, you insensitive ****. I love my cats.

Use some stakes and liners though....you know the script.

Errrr can you read back the first line. I seem to have forgoten it.

--
Kullrad (14)
UKSF Best New Poster 2003

There's going to be knives!

I have a picture of similar to what Bob H describes, on my webpage. Browse
thru the Lily Pond pictures, you'll see a black line between the gray brick
and the red. That's the liner. Water has 3" to cover the brick.

Ingrid, great diagram. )

Don't feed the trolls by cross posting, we don't want to attract them here.
~ jan

See my ponds and filter design:
http://users.owt.com/jjspond/

~Keep 'em Wet!~
Tri-Cities WA Zone 7a
To e-mail see website

On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 06:48:38 -0800, "Bob H" wrote:

Once you get it level using one of the methods cited, take the edge, dig it
out about 1' back from the pond, 6"-1' down, lay the liner into the
resulting L set the brick into the L and you will be able to fill your pond
to the rim with no exposed liner.....
_______soil
^^^^^^^(^^^I
( Brick Space
_(__I
I
I
Pond


"SjT" wrote in message ...
My pond looks crap and i blame the earth for it! It's all on the
****, the water is higher up one end than it is the other, and the
bricks look crap cause there's a massive amount of exposed liner
before you get to the water level.

Also, all the liner is creased round the corners, there's big pockets
for frogs to get in and shag, and leave tabioca everywhere.

I am not happy

So i'm gonna re-do it right now!

Anyone know the best method on getting a pond level on sloped ground?

And how to stop the lining from creasing? (Does this affect the amount
of blanket weed if more creases are evident?)

I think i didn't stretch it enough when i done it last time.

Also what is the best way to build a pond that has water right up to
the brickwork so you cant see any of the lining?

If this is too much help to ask for, i would appreciate any websites
any of you guys have.

--
Joe's Nunn out, out

I have a picture of similar to what Bob H describes, on my webpage. Browse
thru the Lily Pond pictures, you'll see a black line between the gray brick
and the red. That's the liner. Water has 3" to cover the brick.

Ingrid, great diagram. )

Don't feed the trolls by cross posting, we don't want to attract them here.
~ jan

See my ponds and filter design:
http://users.owt.com/jjspond/

~Keep 'em Wet!~
Tri-Cities WA Zone 7a
To e-mail see website

On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 06:48:38 -0800, "Bob H" wrote:

Once you get it level using one of the methods cited, take the edge, dig it
out about 1' back from the pond, 6"-1' down, lay the liner into the
resulting L set the brick into the L and you will be able to fill your pond
to the rim with no exposed liner.....
_______soil
^^^^^^^(^^^I
( Brick Space
_(__I
I
I
Pond


"SjT" wrote in message ...
My pond looks crap and i blame the earth for it! It's all on the
****, the water is higher up one end than it is the other, and the
bricks look crap cause there's a massive amount of exposed liner
before you get to the water level.

Also, all the liner is creased round the corners, there's big pockets
for frogs to get in and shag, and leave tabioca everywhere.

I am not happy

So i'm gonna re-do it right now!

Anyone know the best method on getting a pond level on sloped ground?

And how to stop the lining from creasing? (Does this affect the amount
of blanket weed if more creases are evident?)

I think i didn't stretch it enough when i done it last time.

Also what is the best way to build a pond that has water right up to
the brickwork so you cant see any of the lining?

If this is too much help to ask for, i would appreciate any websites
any of you guys have.

--
Joe's Nunn out, out

"rtk" wrote in message
...


SjT wrote:
.......
And how to stop the lining from creasing? (Does this affect the amount
of blanket weed if more creases are evident?)

I think i didn't stretch it enough when i done it last time.

Also what is the best way to build a pond that has water right up to
the brickwork so you cant see any of the lining?

If this is too much help to ask for, i would appreciate any websites
any of you guys have.

I don't think my website is going to be very helpful, but it does have
pics of several stages of building the pond.

http://www.personal.psu.edu/faculty/...wPondPage.html

The lining doesn't get its creases out; the water pressure flattens them
and algae covers the whole thing, so you won't be aware of them.

I hope things start working out smoothly for you.

Ruth Kazez

p.s. Crossposting to football isn't a good idea.


Use a line level, which can be had at any hardware store. Run a line across the
hole. Level it. Then measure down from the line to where you need to dig.
When the measurements match across the bottom, you are level, or at least level
enough.

"rtk" wrote in message
...


SjT wrote:
.......
And how to stop the lining from creasing? (Does this affect the amount
of blanket weed if more creases are evident?)

I think i didn't stretch it enough when i done it last time.

Also what is the best way to build a pond that has water right up to
the brickwork so you cant see any of the lining?

If this is too much help to ask for, i would appreciate any websites
any of you guys have.

I don't think my website is going to be very helpful, but it does have
pics of several stages of building the pond.

http://www.personal.psu.edu/faculty/...wPondPage.html

The lining doesn't get its creases out; the water pressure flattens them
and algae covers the whole thing, so you won't be aware of them.

I hope things start working out smoothly for you.

Ruth Kazez

p.s. Crossposting to football isn't a good idea.


Use a line level, which can be had at any hardware store. Run a line across the
hole. Level it. Then measure down from the line to where you need to dig.
When the measurements match across the bottom, you are level, or at least level
enough.