Birds and the Bees and Koi and the...

"Benign Vanilla" wrote in message
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Can someone go over the basics on spawning please? I always understood it
that the lady lays the eggs, and the man fertilizes the eggs externally.
If
so, then why do the males beat the females up? What am I missing?

We've told you a million times BV, it's your mind thats missing
Like all male species, your male Koi is horny baby, as far as the male is
concerned he's just trying to get the female Koi 'in the mood', but either
she's not ready or perhaps has recently spawned already. The males usually
bump and knock up against the females until they respond. But unless she can
get away from him he will eventually exhaust her and she will die!!!!

You have to provide hiding spaces in which only the female can get into,
otherwise she's a gonner. In nature she would just simply swim away, but
because she's still there (in your pond) the male thinks she's still
interested and will carry on harassing her until the inevitable happens.
Bloody males, sex on the brain if you ask me
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**So long, and thanks for all the fish!**

"Happy'Cam'per" wrote in message
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"Benign Vanilla" wrote in message
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Can someone go over the basics on spawning please? I always understood
it
that the lady lays the eggs, and the man fertilizes the eggs externally.
If
so, then why do the males beat the females up? What am I missing?

We've told you a million times BV, it's your mind thats missing

Yeah, yeah...besides that...

Like all male species, your male Koi is horny baby, as far as the male is
concerned he's just trying to get the female Koi 'in the mood', but either
she's not ready or perhaps has recently spawned already. The males usually
bump and knock up against the females until they respond. But unless she
can
get away from him he will eventually exhaust her and she will die!!!!

You have to provide hiding spaces in which only the female can get into,
otherwise she's a gonner. In nature she would just simply swim away, but
because she's still there (in your pond) the male thinks she's still
interested and will carry on harassing her until the inevitable happens.
Bloody males, sex on the brain if you ask me

But are the eggs fertilized by the "old in and out" as Kubrick would say, or
are they fertilized in the water?


--
BV.
www.iheartmypond.com

After the females lay the eggs, usually on a plant or roots, the male
fertilizes them with his sperm (for lack of a better term, 'sprays' them) -
no old "in and out" for these guys :~
Gale :~)

But are the eggs fertilized by the "old in and out" as Kubrick would say,
or
are they fertilized in the water?


--
BV.
www.iheartmypond.com

After the females lay the eggs, usually on a plant or roots, the male
fertilizes them with his sperm (for lack of a better term, 'sprays' them) -
no old "in and out" for these guys :~
Gale :~)

But are the eggs fertilized by the "old in and out" as Kubrick would say,
or
are they fertilized in the water?


--
BV.
www.iheartmypond.com

But are the eggs fertilized by the "old in and out" as Kubrick would say, or
are they fertilized in the water? BV

I can sure tell you weren't raised in or near salmon country, and/or any
places that has fish farms where they fertilize the eggs by hand at
hatcheries, showing it on the news. In fact, I think some koi breeders also
do it by hand. BV, you need to start watching more Discovery or Nature TV.

Now last year I did have a female oranda lose her eggs on her own. I put
her out in the lily pond and several days later there were unfertilized
eggs (milky white) in the pond, so some can manage on their own....
;o) ;o) ~ jan


~ jan (Do you know where your water quality is?)

But are the eggs fertilized by the "old in and out" as Kubrick would say, or
are they fertilized in the water? BV

I can sure tell you weren't raised in or near salmon country, and/or any
places that has fish farms where they fertilize the eggs by hand at
hatcheries, showing it on the news. In fact, I think some koi breeders also
do it by hand. BV, you need to start watching more Discovery or Nature TV.

Now last year I did have a female oranda lose her eggs on her own. I put
her out in the lily pond and several days later there were unfertilized
eggs (milky white) in the pond, so some can manage on their own....
;o) ;o) ~ jan


~ jan (Do you know where your water quality is?)

"Happy'Cam'per" wrote in message
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"Benign Vanilla" wrote in message
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Can someone go over the basics on spawning please? I always understood
it
that the lady lays the eggs, and the man fertilizes the eggs externally.
If
so, then why do the males beat the females up? What am I missing?

We've told you a million times BV, it's your mind thats missing

Yeah, yeah...besides that...

Like all male species, your male Koi is horny baby, as far as the male is
concerned he's just trying to get the female Koi 'in the mood', but either
she's not ready or perhaps has recently spawned already. The males usually
bump and knock up against the females until they respond. But unless she
can
get away from him he will eventually exhaust her and she will die!!!!

You have to provide hiding spaces in which only the female can get into,
otherwise she's a gonner. In nature she would just simply swim away, but
because she's still there (in your pond) the male thinks she's still
interested and will carry on harassing her until the inevitable happens.
Bloody males, sex on the brain if you ask me

But are the eggs fertilized by the "old in and out" as Kubrick would say, or
are they fertilized in the water?


--
BV.
www.iheartmypond.com