live rock

Hey

is it right you can run a tank on just live rock as a filtration system and
don't need any other kind of filters?


Thx

"Neored5" wrote in message
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Hey

is it right you can run a tank on just live rock as a filtration system
and
don't need any other kind of filters?

No. You will still need filters for larger matter and to aid in water
movement. Also the equipment you use will depend on the type of tank you
are using and the tank size. Give us more info please.

Tank size
Type of critters (Corrals, Inverts, Fish)
What type of substrate (Crushed Corral, Sand ect.)

With live rock you can however get rid of your under gravel filter. In fact
this is a must.

HTH

Ed

"Adam" wrote in message
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"Neored5" wrote in message
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Hey

is it right you can run a tank on just live rock as a filtration system
and
don't need any other kind of filters?

No. You will still need filters for larger matter and to aid in water
movement. Also the equipment you use will depend on the type of tank you
are using and the tank size. Give us more info please.

Tank size
Type of critters (Corrals, Inverts, Fish)
What type of substrate (Crushed Corral, Sand ect.)

With live rock you can however get rid of your under gravel filter. In
fact
this is a must.

HTH

Ed

Here would be my suggestions for a FOWLR (fish only with live rock) Based on
a 55 gallon tank.

1. Live Sand - about 3-4 inches
2. Live Rock - 1/3 to 2/3 tank volume
3. One or two filters - large enough to move 3 times the water volume each
hour
4. 4 Power heads or water pumps - Enough to cycle water volume 4-6 times an
hour placed at different levels in the tank
5. 2 heaters - together rated slightly higher than the size of tank you
have
6. Timer for your lights - 10 -12 hours on a day

Although this would take you out of the FOWLR category, I would also
recommend a cleaning crew (hermits, snails, shrimp, ect.) as most folks
tend to over feed at first. Also about 4-6 small fish might be nice. :-)
but only add them two at a time at the most and only after your tank has
been cycled and tested. Then retest after each 1-2 fish have been added.
Ok I'm done for now. If any of the rest of you here would like to add or
correct please feel free. All the above is based on what I have done and so
far everything has worked out fine.

Ed

I was thinking of a 3 foot tank, with live rock, crushed coral, 2
powerheads, protein skimmer,

and was also thinking of a cleaning crew plus a few clowns, ane, and a tang

Neored5
Adam wrote in message
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"Adam" wrote in message
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"Neored5" wrote in message
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Hey

is it right you can run a tank on just live rock as a filtration
system
and
don't need any other kind of filters?

No. You will still need filters for larger matter and to aid in water
movement. Also the equipment you use will depend on the type of tank
you
are using and the tank size. Give us more info please.

Tank size
Type of critters (Corrals, Inverts, Fish)
What type of substrate (Crushed Corral, Sand ect.)

With live rock you can however get rid of your under gravel filter. In
fact
this is a must.

HTH

Ed

Here would be my suggestions for a FOWLR (fish only with live rock) Based
on
a 55 gallon tank.

1. Live Sand - about 3-4 inches
2. Live Rock - 1/3 to 2/3 tank volume
3. One or two filters - large enough to move 3 times the water volume
each
hour
4. 4 Power heads or water pumps - Enough to cycle water volume 4-6 times
an
hour placed at different levels in the tank
5. 2 heaters - together rated slightly higher than the size of tank you
have
6. Timer for your lights - 10 -12 hours on a day

Although this would take you out of the FOWLR category, I would also
recommend a cleaning crew (hermits, snails, shrimp, ect.) as most folks
tend to over feed at first. Also about 4-6 small fish might be nice. :-)
but only add them two at a time at the most and only after your tank has
been cycled and tested. Then retest after each 1-2 fish have been added.
Ok I'm done for now. If any of the rest of you here would like to add or
correct please feel free. All the above is based on what I have done and
so
far everything has worked out fine.

Ed

Hey

is it right you can run a tank on just live rock as a filtration system and
don't need any other kind of filters?

the protein skimmer should be a must on anyones list, but its not its not all that hard to
go with out one.

LR and a DSB
thats all you need, you dont want extra bio filtration, and you dont need(or really want)
mechanical filtration, it is however nice to have the option of adding carbon or other
alternatives when needed.

Thx

--
Richard Reynolds

I was thinking of a 3 foot tank, with live rock, crushed coral, 2
powerheads, protein skimmer,

no crushed coral, use sand instead

and was also thinking of a cleaning crew plus a few clowns, ane, and a tang

a cleaning crew doesnt mean its not a FOWLR, even FO's can have a cleaning crew

Ill assume ane = anemone in which you no longer have a FOWLR and require LIGHT and a good
amount of water movement.

a 3' tank is no place for any tang they get way to big, and need swiming room.

Neored5



--
Richard Reynolds

Yes to clarify - a protein skimmer is a good idea but reallly the only type
of "filter" you'd need. Just keep good water movement with some powerheads
and you should be good to go. I have a 20 gal tank (reef) set up with a
hang on protein skimmer, and 2 small powerheads, a 2-3" LSB and about 40 lbs
of live rock. It's a super healthy tank and everyone is happy. Also have a
125 reef with 2-3" LSB and about 150-200 lbs.(around 60% volume) live
rock - with a 30 gallon sump, protein skimmer in sump, 2 power heads and a
huge return pump. Tank is pre-drilled with built in overflows at the
corners -- again , everyone happy - no filters

Good luck!
"Richard Reynolds" wrote in message
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Hey

is it right you can run a tank on just live rock as a filtration system
and
don't need any other kind of filters?

the protein skimmer should be a must on anyones list, but its not its not
all that hard to
go with out one.

LR and a DSB
thats all you need, you dont want extra bio filtration, and you dont
need(or really want)
mechanical filtration, it is however nice to have the option of adding
carbon or other
alternatives when needed.

Thx

--
Richard Reynolds