Yellow lab still holding

I noticed today, that my yellow lab that is holding, is STILL holding, but
one fry escaped, and she's chasing it of sorts... not terribly, but when in
sight, it's persued...

Is it time to make her spit them? Should I isolate the fry from her, put her
and them in a net, make her spit, then pull her out??

Are the fry in danger being in a 10g with her without protection?

I was told that they should hold for a week or so, but it's now been 10
days... should I be worried, yet?

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|| I noticed today, that my yellow lab that is holding, is STILL
|| holding, but one fry escaped, and she's chasing it of sorts... not
|| terribly, but when in sight, it's persued...
||
|| Is it time to make her spit them? Should I isolate the fry from her,
|| put her and them in a net, make her spit, then pull her out??
||
|| Are the fry in danger being in a 10g with her without protection?
||
|| I was told that they should hold for a week or so, but it's now been
|| 10 days... should I be worried, yet?

She spit them out yesterday evening, I was doing a water change, and not
sure why, but when I stuck the siphon tube in, she just puked them right
out... I have a total of 22 little ones, they look just bright yellow as can
be.... which I consider fortunate, since I've seen 'some' yellow labs,
almost ugly brown beige tan colors... She was labeled Lemon Yellow Lab....
so maybe there's something to that...

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IMHO, 10 days is a bit soon to be spit and/or stripped I would wait a
little longer next time. Do the fry still have thier egg sacs?
Another (questionable) reason for allowing the females to hold longer is to
allow time for this experiance to be imprinted into the young fry. Whether
their is any truth to this imprinting business is beyond me, but it sounds
good.

For future referance. I used to breed yellow labs. Here's what I did
with them. Initially, I had a breeding colony of labs in a 90G community
tank. When I would notice a female holding, I would leave her in the main
tank for about ten days as long as she wasn't being picked on by other fish
too much. After ten days, or sooner if she was being picked on, I would
remove her from the main tank and place her into a 10G holding tank and keep
her there for another 4 days or so. At two weeks, the fry's egg sacks
should be almost gone and by 3 weeks they should be ready to be spit.
Whether the holding female will spit at this point depends on several
factors including: the females health and stress levels and water
temperature. The warmer the water, the shorter they will hold, conversely
the cooler the water temp the longer they tend to hold. At 80 deg F, they
usually will spit by 4 weeks if not stressed. At 70 deg F. water, they may
hold for a month or more (again, if not stressed). I usually stripped my
females between weeks 3 and 4, if she hadn't spit at that point yet. The
easies way I found to strip a holding female was to use a rather large net
and net the female (gently of course) leaving her in the net in the water.
Then I would take a turkey baster, remove the rubber squeeze bulb from the
end, and put the tube half in the net witht he female. I would then gently
insert the holding female HEAD FIRST into the back of the turkey baster
tube, gently put the bulb back on the back, then gently squeeze the baster.
The idea is to force the water down the tube into the gills of the lab from
behind, thereby forcing her to open her mouth and flushing all the fry out
of the end of the baster. You then remove the bulb and remove the female.
I usually strip the fry into either a breeding net or another fry tank. I
then keep the female separated for a few days and make sure she is fed well
to get her strength back before returning her to the community tank. This
allows the stressed female to regain her strength before being inundated by
over-zealous tank mates.
good luck with your labs and fry.
Matt

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|| I noticed today, that my yellow lab that is holding, is STILL
|| holding, but one fry escaped, and she's chasing it of sorts... not
|| terribly, but when in sight, it's persued...
||
|| Is it time to make her spit them? Should I isolate the fry from her,
|| put her and them in a net, make her spit, then pull her out??
||
|| Are the fry in danger being in a 10g with her without protection?
||
|| I was told that they should hold for a week or so, but it's now been
|| 10 days... should I be worried, yet?

She spit them out yesterday evening, I was doing a water change, and not
sure why, but when I stuck the siphon tube in, she just puked them right
out... I have a total of 22 little ones, they look just bright yellow as
can
be.... which I consider fortunate, since I've seen 'some' yellow labs,
almost ugly brown beige tan colors... She was labeled Lemon Yellow Lab....
so maybe there's something to that...

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|| For future referance. I used to breed yellow labs. Here's what
|| I did with them. Initially, I had a breeding colony of labs in a
|| 90G community tank. When I would notice a female holding, I would
|| leave her in the main tank for about ten days as long as she wasn't
|| being picked on by other fish too much. After ten days, or sooner
|| if she was being picked on, I would remove her from the main tank
|| and place her into a 10G holding tank and keep her there for another
|| 4 days or so. At two weeks, the fry's egg sacks should be almost
|| gone and by 3 weeks they should be ready to be spit. Whether the
|| holding female will spit at this point depends on several factors
|| including: the females health and stress levels and water
|| temperature. The warmer the water, the shorter they will hold,
|| conversely the cooler the water temp the longer they tend to hold.
|| At 80 deg F, they usually will spit by 4 weeks if not stressed. At
|| 70 deg F. water, they may hold for a month or more (again, if not
|| stressed). I usually stripped my females between weeks 3 and 4, if
|| she hadn't spit at that point yet. The easies way I found to strip
|| a holding female was to use a rather large net and net the female
|| (gently of course) leaving her in the net in the water. Then I would
|| take a turkey baster, remove the rubber squeeze bulb from the end,
|| and put the tube half in the net witht he female. I would then
|| gently insert the holding female HEAD FIRST into the back of the
|| turkey baster tube, gently put the bulb back on the back, then
|| gently squeeze the baster. The idea is to force the water down the
|| tube into the gills of the lab from behind, thereby forcing her to
|| open her mouth and flushing all the fry out of the end of the
|| baster. You then remove the bulb and remove the female. I usually
|| strip the fry into either a breeding net or another fry tank. I
|| then keep the female separated for a few days and make sure she is
|| fed well to get her strength back before returning her to the
|| community tank. This allows the stressed female to regain her
|| strength before being inundated by over-zealous tank mates.
|| good luck with your labs and fry.
|| Matt

How cool is that??? She finally spit them out, and I went from 22 to 15 in
a week, although I never found any dead floaters.... I presume they were
munched on... They are the yellowest labs I've ever seen as babies, and a
few are getting some black on their dorsal fins...

Thanks for your well wishes


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