Wal Mart steps over a dollar to pick up a dime

Crashj wrote One of the girls got stolen three
times in one week. Cute girl, too.

you are too evil ;-)


kathy :-)
algae primer
http://hometown.aol.com/ka30p/myhomepage/garden.html

I gave up retail management several years ago.
Corporate was the reason, that and my feet were killing me.

Perhaps if you walk a mile in a retail employee's shoes you won't be so
quick to spout off.
Yep, there are employees that goof off. You get it in every line of work.
The percentage of people that look down on customer service personnel in is
much too high.

I do not know if you have ever worked customer service, but again, I suggest
that those of you that condemn them walk a mile in the other guy's shoes.
The treatment received from all sides is difficult to deal with. Eventually
you have to fight to prevent becoming calloused. The working people are not
fond of the goof offs either but corporate makes it very difficult to get
rid of them.

Kate


"Mrs. Fricker" wrote in message
...
| "SVTKate" wrote:
|
| If you want to blame someone, blame the sorporation, not the
| employees. The company is to blame 80% of the time.
|
| It sounds like you don't like your job. Have you tried a different line
| of work. If you have to go around blaming people perhaps you aren't busy
| enough.

"D.S." wrote

A kindred spirit .. thanks DS!
Kate

|
| AMEN!!!!!
|
| I am a manager of a convenience store. I am only allowed to have 1 or 2
| employees on the clock per shift. The things that "customers" do is
| outrageous!! I could tell you horror stories. Retail is a LOT harder
than
| it looks. My company starts all clerks out at min. wage, no matter how
much
| experience they have. And the only give me 2 days to train these
employees.
| That's not nearly long enough. They have installed cameras recently to
help
| cut down on employee theft. Employee theft counts for 80% of store
losses.
| That includes unintentional employee mistakes as well.
|
| D.S.
|
|

"SVTKate" wrote in message
hlink.net...

Perhaps if you walk a mile in a retail employee's shoes you won't be so
quick to spout off.

My Pappy always used to say, "Before you complain about someone, walk a mile
in their shoes. Then you'll be a mile away and you'll have their shoes."
--
Crashj "who has been on both sides of the counter and in the back room"
Johnson

"~ Windsong ~" wrote in message


| =========================
| Again you have a *management* problem then. Where is the store MANAGER
and
| ass't manager?

They are
Putting out fires.. Corporate, customer, employee
Doing the 20" stack of paperwork
Doing payroll
Going to the bank
Attending required confrence calls
Helping to unload trucks
Tracking down lost orders
Making sure that credits are issued for shrink
Training empolyees
Helping customers
Helping Employees
Employee reviews...
Shall I continue?

It's their job to know what's in the store room and
| trailers. The Wal-Marts and K-Marts here are set up in such a way that
| hiding merchandise is almost impossible.

Stealing from a big store would be easy if someone wanted to.
I'm not a thief, I like to sleep at night.
At Staples there were employees actually getting away with stealing
computers and digital cameras right off the shelf. Everyone was watching and
they finally caught the guys doing it.

As for discouraging sales....
| I've seldom had anyone in any of these stores do that. And the employees
| come and go so fast it can't possibly make a difference in the amount sold
| or not sold. The Lowe's here marks things down to unreal prices to move
| them in late summer. I paid 25¢ for beautiful hanging baskets of
| impatience and some other type of flower. The hanging baskets alone are
| worth over $1.49. The mini rose bushes were only 50¢ to a $1.00 each. I
| bough some large beautiful blooming angelwing begonias in fancy large pots
| for 50¢ each. There is nowhere the employees could be involved in all the
| stock that didn't sell over the summer. I'm not saying some employees
| aren't dishonest as I'm sure some are - but most left over merchandise is
| not the fault of the employees.
| Giving damaged or broken merchandise to employees is another matter. I
can
| see them "damaging" something so they can get it for free or dirt cheap -
| but leftover ponds, shrubs, trees and plants???

The plants just befuddle me. Why would they choose to let something die and
return it for credit rather than mark it down and let it find a home. I hate
to see dying plants.

Kate


| --
| Carol.... the frugal ponder...
| "If athletes get athletes foot, do astronauts get mistletoe?"
| ~~~~~~{@
| "They laugh because I'm different, I laugh because they're all the same."
| http://www.heartoftn.net/users/windsong/index.html
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|

*rolling her eyes*
sorry for the typos guys.. my fingers have gotten pretty clumsy.
that should have been "couple"
Kate

"SVTKate" wrote in message
nk.net...
| I worked at Staples for a cuple of years.
| They had a policy of literally trashing (hammering it to smithereens)
| anything that was returned (after they got their credit from the
| manufacturer) if it was not in a package.
| The reason for this was so that people would not fish thngs back out of
the
| dumpster and then try to return it without a receipt.
|
| It seemed silly, but still made sense.
|
| Kate
|
| "~ Windsong ~" wrote in message
| ...
| |
| | "Crashj" wrote in message
| | hlink.net...
| | "Jabba" wrote in message
| | ...
| | Somebody reported:
| | ## Wal-Mart used to sell off all their plants and trees (very
| | reasonably)
| | late in the season. You could get great deals. Then one of the
long
| | time
| | employee there told me they stopped that! They now trash them
| rather
| | than
| | mark them down.
| |
| | What's the difference between your greed to get a bargain and the
| stock
| | holders greed?
| |
| | Friend ran a chicken place where the employees were not allowed to
take
| | home
| | leftover chicken at closing, it went into the dumpster. Why? Simple,
| when
| | they allowed it there was ALWAYS a full fryer at the end of the day.
| Maybe
| | Wal-mart is protecting the stockholders from the associates?
| | --
| | Crashj
| | ===================================
| | That sounds like poor management to me as much as dishonest employees.
As
| | for places like Wal-Mart - that wouldn't apply. They are not the ones
who
| | order the pond and garden merchandise for the stores.
| | --
| | Carol.... the frugal ponder...
| | "Whenever you meet a man who would make a good husband,
| | you will usually find he's already married."
| | ~~~~~~{@
| | "They laugh because I'm different, I laugh because they're all the
same."
| | http://www.heartoftn.net/users/windsong/index.html
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| |
| |
| |
|
|

Comic relief- how refreshing and how very funny!
Thanxx

"Crashj" wrote in message
nk.net...


Boy, Howdy. I used to run a cell phone store selling prepaid service. Let
me
tell you, employee theft was a big issue. One of the girls got stolen
three
times in one week. Cute girl, too. Never did find her the last time.
--
Crashj

Thanks for the update.

Kate

"Roy" wrote in message
...
| Well I have been keeping an eye on the Wal Mart dumpster for when they
| dump those liners. They are not currently anywhere outside like they
| used to be but have yet to be dumped. While I was waiting for the
| manager to talk to about those liners the other day I had spotted a
| Water Gardening book, but forgot to pick it up before I left. Anyway
| today I was at the other Wal Mart on the other side of
| town..........which I have to say is like being in a whole different
| world compared to the one I was at first. There foks were busy cleanin
| g up lawn and garden items, taking care of plants etc, unlike the
| other store who is usually busy dumping cartons of dead wilted plants
| etc. I spotted a preformed pond with a three tier cascade water fall
| and pump and fountain and started to look at it. It was marked at $79.
| They had 9 in stock full complete pond kits contaiing a 600gph pump,
| filter, foutain and the two preforms with thre larger pond itself
| being a 90 gal cap. Made by Marcote (SP?) Smae liner along sells for
| over $120 at most home builder stores like HD and Lowes. I inquired
| if they had the water gardeing book I was looking for, (they did not)
| and I mentioned, that I was now forced to go back to the "other"
| walmart and get it. I then asked the person who happened to be the
| ast. mgr in the garden center how was it that they had complete pond
| kits on the shelf there but the other store had a heap of just liners
| fixing to get trashed.........or do you soon plan on trashing those
| kits too. He laughed and said "Oh the pond liner fiasco"
|
| What happened was the manager they had at this other store screwed up
| and ordered more than he needed. He did not have place to display them
| all so he got the bright idea to break all the kits down and stack
| liners in side liners and all parts in the top liner........Well one
| thing lead to another and soon most parts were scattered all over.
| Since none of the items were intended to be sold individually those
| that cropped up laying here and there were tossed as they were not on
| inventory per se as a single type item (pump, filter etc etc) This
| clown also did the same with his overstock of wheel
| barrows..........put all the tubs in one pile and piled in the wheels
| and attaching hardware etc to conserve shelf space. Anyhow he
| "managed" (he was a manager wasn't he?) to cost the company a few
| bucks of lost merchandise and is no longer employed at the store, due
| to this and his inept ability to manage folks yet alone merchandise.
| Also found out that store had the highest rate of returns on dead or
| inferior plants. The plant supplier puts out a good product, and
| warrants it, however they only warrant it one time to Wal MArt, plant
| for plant, after that its Wal MArts loss on additional plants.
| Needless to say plants and in general anything in the lawn and garden
| department was not taken care of properly, right down to the lawn
| tractors etc. They also trashed a heap of well used and abused lawn
| furniture as well that was literally setup and set outside and foks
| just used as casual gathering places, and suceeded in trashing most of
| it......So anyhow since the pond liners were never intended to be sold
| individually they had to be cut up and thrown out........As far as
| this other manager that was telling me this knew Wal MArt took the hit
| on that and a lot of other screwups this manager made, who in th end
| sufficiently screwed up enough to cost him his job. This particular
| store is in a not too good side of town and clientel are not the
| worlds greatest, and evidently they hire managers and clerks that go
| hand in hand with the clientel they serve.
|
| So I can;t really find fault with Wally World on this issue to a
| certain point, wrong as it may seem by destroying the liners. They
| have a given policy and they try and hold to the policy and to
| introduce items not normally stocked on on a location list would foul
| up things overall.
|
| Sorry for the rant!
| Visit my website: http://www.frugalmachinist.com
| Opinions expressed are those of my wife,
| I had no input whatsoever.
| Remove "nospam" from email addy.

So what you're telling us is that this was a Rosanne Rosandana story.
Nevermind
Bill

"Roy" wrote in message
...
Well I have been keeping an eye on the Wal Mart dumpster for when they
dump those liners. They are not currently anywhere outside like they
used to be but have yet to be dumped. While I was waiting for the
manager to talk to about those liners the other day I had spotted a
Water Gardening book, but forgot to pick it up before I left. Anyway
today I was at the other Wal Mart on the other side of
town..........which I have to say is like being in a whole different
world compared to the one I was at first. There foks were busy cleanin
g up lawn and garden items, taking care of plants etc, unlike the
other store who is usually busy dumping cartons of dead wilted plants
etc. I spotted a preformed pond with a three tier cascade water fall
and pump and fountain and started to look at it. It was marked at $79.
They had 9 in stock full complete pond kits contaiing a 600gph pump,
filter, foutain and the two preforms with thre larger pond itself
being a 90 gal cap. Made by Marcote (SP?) Smae liner along sells for
over $120 at most home builder stores like HD and Lowes. I inquired
if they had the water gardeing book I was looking for, (they did not)
and I mentioned, that I was now forced to go back to the "other"
walmart and get it. I then asked the person who happened to be the
ast. mgr in the garden center how was it that they had complete pond
kits on the shelf there but the other store had a heap of just liners
fixing to get trashed.........or do you soon plan on trashing those
kits too. He laughed and said "Oh the pond liner fiasco"

What happened was the manager they had at this other store screwed up
and ordered more than he needed. He did not have place to display them
all so he got the bright idea to break all the kits down and stack
liners in side liners and all parts in the top liner........Well one
thing lead to another and soon most parts were scattered all over.
Since none of the items were intended to be sold individually those
that cropped up laying here and there were tossed as they were not on
inventory per se as a single type item (pump, filter etc etc) This
clown also did the same with his overstock of wheel
barrows..........put all the tubs in one pile and piled in the wheels
and attaching hardware etc to conserve shelf space. Anyhow he
"managed" (he was a manager wasn't he?) to cost the company a few
bucks of lost merchandise and is no longer employed at the store, due
to this and his inept ability to manage folks yet alone merchandise.
Also found out that store had the highest rate of returns on dead or
inferior plants. The plant supplier puts out a good product, and
warrants it, however they only warrant it one time to Wal MArt, plant
for plant, after that its Wal MArts loss on additional plants.
Needless to say plants and in general anything in the lawn and garden
department was not taken care of properly, right down to the lawn
tractors etc. They also trashed a heap of well used and abused lawn
furniture as well that was literally setup and set outside and foks
just used as casual gathering places, and suceeded in trashing most of
it......So anyhow since the pond liners were never intended to be sold
individually they had to be cut up and thrown out........As far as
this other manager that was telling me this knew Wal MArt took the hit
on that and a lot of other screwups this manager made, who in th end
sufficiently screwed up enough to cost him his job. This particular
store is in a not too good side of town and clientel are not the
worlds greatest, and evidently they hire managers and clerks that go
hand in hand with the clientel they serve.

So I can;t really find fault with Wally World on this issue to a
certain point, wrong as it may seem by destroying the liners. They
have a given policy and they try and hold to the policy and to
introduce items not normally stocked on on a location list would foul
up things overall.

Sorry for the rant!
Visit my website: http://www.frugalmachinist.com
Opinions expressed are those of my wife,
I had no input whatsoever.
Remove "nospam" from email addy.

"Peter Crowl" wrote in message
ink.net...
Without reading every post in this thread - so at the risk of
duplication -
has anybody considered that the vendor might have credited Wal-Mart for
these liners...it would probably cost too much to send back a dozen
liners...more than they're worth..and if so Wal-Mart would have been
required to destroy them

There is a similar example in book stores. Paperbacks that don't sell
...management is instructed to tear off the covers and dispose of them.

Peter
=================
All this waste and some people in the USA are going to bed hungry every
night. Old folks can afford their meds and the homeless population
grows....
--
Carol.... the frugal ponder...
"Do stars clean themselves with meteor showers?"
~~~~~~{@
"They laugh because I'm different, I laugh because they're all the same."
http://www.heartoftn.net/users/windsong/index.html
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