Lily fertilizer

"Hal" wrote in message
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There was a thread earlier about once a year fertilizer for lilies, or
it may have been aquatic plants, anyway I thought I would try a slow
release low nitrogen fertilizer in my lilies since they were beginning
to slow down on the blooms a bit. I went to my local Lowe's and
found the lowest nitrogen10 and highest phosphate 13 with potash 13
the best thing they had and thought that might do. It might please
some, but I want blooms not leaves. I put up some pictures of what
happened to two of the pots, so you can snicker a bit if it pleases
you to laugh at a dummy. Go ahead, I grinned a bit myself!
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Next year I am potting my lillies properly, and fertilizing them. Mine have
never looked like this.

BV.

On Tue, 17 Aug 2004 16:16:40 -0400, Hal wrote:

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So, Hal, your lily thinks it a lotus. ;o)

If someone has a source for a good slow release lily fertilizer,please
post it. Hal

Well I don't know if they're slow release, but try www.gardenlink.com and
click on "Spikes" they make a lily spike, big, suppose to last all year by
their claim. I know the gal fertilizing the lilies at the D.pond this year
is using them, and I guess she's happy with the blooms. (I'm not happy that
the volunteers don't dead head and squish aphids enough, but the filter is
the only concern I can deal with this year.)

What happens to your pads if you were to go thru and get rid of all those
"ugly" spread out old pads? When my lilies have started to do this, going
thru and plucking off those old pads takes care of it. But than, I get in
at least once a week and deadhead and strip off anything ugly. Ugly
(yellowing, brown spots, rips) stressed pads attracts aphids. I'm using the
Jobe's Tomato spikes and feed about every 3 weeks, 2 each. ~ jan



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On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 15:18:34 -0700, ~ jan JJsPond.us
wrote:

===On Tue, 17 Aug 2004 16:16:40 -0400, Hal wrote:
===
===http://members.cox.net/hrclark1/Index.html
===
===So, Hal, your lily thinks it a lotus. ;o)
===
===If someone has a source for a good slow release lily fertilizer,please
===post it. Hal
===
===Well I don't know if they're slow release, but try www.gardenlink.com and
===click on "Spikes" they make a lily spike, big, suppose to last all year by
===their claim. I know the gal fertilizing the lilies at the D.pond this year
===is using them, and I guess she's happy with the blooms. (I'm not happy that
===the volunteers don't dead head and squish aphids enough, but the filter is
===the only concern I can deal with this year.)
===
===What happens to your pads if you were to go thru and get rid of all those
==="ugly" spread out old pads? When my lilies have started to do this, going
===thru and plucking off those old pads takes care of it. But than, I get in
===at least once a week and deadhead and strip off anything ugly. Ugly
===(yellowing, brown spots, rips) stressed pads attracts aphids. I'm using the
===Jobe's Tomato spikes and feed about every 3 weeks, 2 each. ~ jan
===
===
===
=== ~Power to the Porg, Flow On!~


So your using the regular old tomatoe fertilizer spikes for lillies?
How have they like it so far? Certainly tomatoe fertilizer stakes
have to be cheaper than the 10 or 12 in the bottle stuff that the
local places around here sell for $7.95
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A couple of years ago I found info on the web, can't remember the source as
shown below.
Lily Fertilizer

This fertilizer recipe was credited to Mr. Perry Slocum who has originated
and patented many of the lilies and lotus, including Mrs. Perry Slocum a
very fragrant lotus with large double flowers.

The recipe is based on mixing a bushel size container of soil.

1. Use good clay type garden soil.

2. Mix into the soil 1 cup of bone meal.

3. Mix into the soil 1 cup of granular fertilizer with a high middle
number such as 10-20-10. The larger middle number is for blooms.

4. Add about 8 large Agriform fertilizer tablets around the edge of
the container. (If you cannot find Agriform tablets, use Jobe's Tomato
Spikes).

5. Mix into the soil 1 cup of dried blood meal.

Make sure all is mixed well. Top with pea gravel or larger to keep the fish
out

Stand back and watch and "listen" to them grow. After about 3 weeks in this
soil ad new tablets every 2 weeks.


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"Hal" wrote in message
...
There was a thread earlier about once a year fertilizer for lilies, or
it may have been aquatic plants, anyway I thought I would try a slow
release low nitrogen fertilizer in my lilies since they were beginning
to slow down on the blooms a bit. I went to my local Lowe's and
found the lowest nitrogen10 and highest phosphate 13 with potash 13
the best thing they had and thought that might do. It might please
some, but I want blooms not leaves. I put up some pictures of what
happened to two of the pots, so you can snicker a bit if it pleases
you to laugh at a dummy. Go ahead, I grinned a bit myself!
http://members.cox.net/hrclark1/Index.html

I began looking for a slow release, or aquatic fertilizer with
15-30-15, or 1-2-1 mix and found what I was using that has to be fed
once every two weeks and one site had the nerve to call that slow
release. I also found an 8-24-8 that I think would work well, but
trying to feed two 8 to 10 gallon lily pots gets tiresome with the
small stakes weighed in grams, that takes one to a gallon of soil. I
didn't find a 4 oz tree stake that was anything like the 1-2-1 or
1-3-1 which I believe to be much better for water lilies.
If someone has a source for a good slow release lily fertilizer,please
post it.

Regards,

Hal

"Roy" wrote in message
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So your using the regular old tomatoe fertilizer spikes for lillies?
How have they like it so far? Certainly tomatoe fertilizer stakes
have to be cheaper than the 10 or 12 in the bottle stuff that the
local places around here sell for $7.95
============================
Seems like all the fertilizers for pond plants are overpriced. I've been
using the cheaper Rose stakes broken into thirds for my lilies and Lotus.
Works great. :-)
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"~ Windsong ~" wrote:

Seems like all the fertilizers for pond plants are overpriced.

Lilypons has occasional specials that are merely a bit overpriced, as
opposed to the regular price which is obscene.


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Zone 5/6 in upstate New York, 1420' elevation. NY WO G

On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 14:03:24 -0500, "~ Windsong ~" wrote:

===
==="Roy" wrote in message
et...
=== So your using the regular old tomatoe fertilizer spikes for lillies?
=== How have they like it so far? Certainly tomatoe fertilizer stakes
=== have to be cheaper than the 10 or 12 in the bottle stuff that the
=== local places around here sell for $7.95
===============================
===Seems like all the fertilizers for pond plants are overpriced. I've been
===using the cheaper Rose stakes broken into thirds for my lilies and Lotus.
===Works great. :-)

Well I looked in about 8 diferent stores this weekend for tomatoe
plant fertilizer stakes and not a store carried them. But I think I
remember seeing rose stakes......... By chance I was in a Lowes that
was about 60 miles froom home today and actually found those
pre-planted water garden flower assortments, that were properly
treated. Was kind of hard to pass up Water lillys that were marked
regularly for $11.95 andnow reduced to $5. something each, especially
when they were already leaved out and were doing fine. I was not sure
about the other plants like horsetail and bog bean etc as they had no
growth on them so I left them be,














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On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 23:24:46 GMT, (Roy) wrote:

So your using the regular old tomatoe fertilizer spikes for lillies?
How have they like it so far?

My lilies have been blooming great guns since I got the pH down to their
liking. Also got a couple of blooms off the slow to bloom white Tropical
night bloomer.

I think I should give up on night bloomers. The first I ever had several
years ago, opened at dust and stayed open till noon. It was Sir Galahad.
Neither this Trudy Slocum or the Red Flare are like that, they seem to be
midnight to 6am-ers. My lilypond area is pitch black by midnight and I
rarely get up at 6am if I can help it.... and surely not to go run out to
check on the lilies... since there is no over looking window, though I'd
like one. ~ jan


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"Hal" wrote in message
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That is the reason I've been using stakes with numbers like 15-30-15
and 8-24-8. They work great, but require constant replacement to
keep up the nutrition the plants need for best blooming. The thing
that got my attention was to be able to fertilize once a season
instead of every two weeks like I had been doing.
=================================
Every 2 weeks? What were you using? I use the Rose Stakes broken into
thirds in a heavy clay soil no more than maybe 3 times over the growing
season here in zone 6 (central TN).
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"Hal" wrote:

On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 23:21:43 -0500, "~ Windsong ~"
wrote:

That is the reason I've been using stakes with numbers like 15-30-15
and 8-24-8. They work great, but require constant replacement to
keep up the nutrition the plants need for best blooming. The thing
that got my attention was to be able to fertilize once a season
instead of every two weeks like I had been doing.
=================================
Every 2 weeks? What were you using? I use the Rose Stakes broken into
thirds in a heavy clay soil no more than maybe 3 times over the growing
season here in zone 6 (central TN).

Now I don't mean to be rude when I say read the first two lines and
let me explain. Rose fertilizer, tomato fertilizer, azalea
fertilizer can all be several different compositions, but 8-24-8 is
specific in that it tells exactly the percentages of nitrogen,
phosphates and potash the fertilizer contains. The ones I used were
about 1/4" in diameter and 2" long and the whole package weighed 1.1
ounces. The last package I bought was 6-12-6, but that is still a
1-2-1 ratio fertilizer and that is what I like for lilies.

You can put a lily in good soil and it will bloom. You can add high
phosphate fertilizer and it will bloom better. I was attempting to
get all I could from the plants by feeding them every two weeks. My
reasoning for feeding 2 weeks is I wasn't sure how long a fertilizer
made for pots of dirt lasts in water. I've washed out water soluble
fertilizer by over watering, so that leaves a big question in my mind
as to how often I should fertilize with stakes meant for regular
flower pots. I did intend to fertilize enough and never found any
harm in fertilizing that much. I just got too tired to do it.

Regards,

Hal

I've been using tomato stakes and the stuff sold as "lily fertilizer"
tablets, every month. As an experiment, I have also started dumping 11-54-4
"super bloom" directly into my pond. So far, I have seen no detrimental
effects from this, ie algae from the level of nitrogen. The question would
seem to be, though, how much of the dissolved fertilizer will be taken in by
the plants compared to the stakes.

San Diego Joe
4,000 - 5,000 Gallons.
Goldfish, a RES named Colombo and an Oscar.



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